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Fossil Fuel Free: A Plan to Phase Out China’s ICEVs

Public Policy

The Innovation Center for Energy and Transportation (iCET), a leading U.S. and China based think tank focusing on Chinese environmental policy, published a report in May 2019 detailing the structure and feasibility of China’s ambitious goal to phase out internal combustion engine vehicles (ICEVs) in favor of new energy vehicles (NEVs) by 2050. The report is part of a larger project launched by the National Resource Defense Council (NRDC) and Energy Foundation China in partnership with the Chinese Ministry of Ecology and Environment and the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC). The project aims to reduce China’s oil consumption and improve its energy security through the development of renewable energy alternatives.

Any Chinese domestic move away from ICEVs would reverberate across global auto and oil markets. China is the world’s largest market for vehicle supply and demand. In 2018, the country’s annual production and sales volume reached thirty million units and total ownership exceeded two hundred million units. China surpassed the United States as the world’s largest crude oil importer in 2017, and was projected to import over seventy percent of its total crude oil in 2018. Automobiles accounted for 42 percent of China’s total oil consumption and over 80 percent of its total refined oil consumption. These factors demonstrate the massive shifts the recommendations in this report would require, both within China and abroad, and the huge implications for automakers and oil exporters.

Motivations for ICEV Phase Out

The report mentions multiple motivations for China to phase out ICEVs. One factor behind this policy direction is the technological dominance China would achieve should it become a leader in an auto industry increasingly projected to embrace green technology. In recent years, companies such as Tesla and BYD have built their reputations on electric technology, and electric vehicles are expected to spike in production by 2030. As the report itself states, China has the world’s largest car market, and thus can promote changes in the global auto market through its domestic regulations. Chinese President Xi Jinping himself has stated that developing NEV capacity compliments other efforts to improve China’s industrial strength. China currently is not a dominant player in the global auto industry; thus, the country has every incentive to push new technologies and production methods while they have time to build capacity and expertise in these developing markets. In demonstrating a path forward that accounts for anticipated trends in fuel efficiency and energy availability, the iCET report provides and advocates for a roadmap for Chinese predominance in both the domestic and international auto industries. Furthermore, given the number of people in China whose livelihoods depend on automobile access, it is strategic for policymakers and politicians alike to consider the best mechanisms to become more self-sufficient in this industry.

Another reason behind the ICEV ban policy is that the anticipated decrease in fossil fuel use from NEVs would improve Chinese energy security. China’s oil demand drastically outpaces its domestic production ability. The country has been a crude oil net-importer since 1996 and has progressed from importing about two million barrels of oil per day in 2004 to over eight million per day in 2017. These trends continued in 2018 despite increasing trade tensions with the United States and Iran, demonstrating the strength of China’s oil reliance. New energy vehicles rely on non-oil resources that are more abundant domestically. Although electricity sources such as coal conflict with public health goals, China has a rich coal supply. Furthermore, Chinese investments in solar power, natural gas, hydropower, and biofuels all can help power increasingly energy efficient and non-combustive vehicle engines in a less environmentally destructive way. Given energy reliance’s adverse effects on Beijing’s pursuit of its own goals, it serves Chinese strategic interests to invest in products that use renewable energy that it can produce independently from geopolitical tides.

The final motivation for ICEV phase out is this policy’s public health and environmental benefits. Promoting NEVs is compatible with preexisting Chinese policies, such as the “Blue Sky War” – an initiative that aims to protect the environment and public health. One of the most important elements measured in the air quality index (AQI) is PM2.5, a particulate matter that originates from combustion engine exhaust and carries severe health consequences for prolonged exposure. This is particularly true among young children, the elderly, and otherwise sensitive groups. One 2018 report found that 1.6 million Chinese people die prematurely due to air pollution each year, a trend largely reflected in incidences of cancer and cardio-respiratory diseases. The combustion process also produces ground-level ozone, a compound that inhibits plant growth, leading to massive inefficiencies in China’s agricultural sector.

iCET’s Proposed Strategy

Unlike previous technological leapfrogging in China, transitioning from ICEVs will require a slower approach. Phasing out ICEVs in any country is a tremendous challenge. For China, the task is further complicated by the large disparity in economic development between its underdeveloped Western, Southern, and Northeast regions and the developed Eastern coastal region where major cities like Beijing or Shanghai, municipal governments have already begun to limit ICEV sales and encourage NEV purchases through subsidies or preferential traffic policies.

In the past, China has piloted large reforms in a handful of small regions before nation-wide implementation. To account for regional disparities in economic development and the disruption caused by transitioning from ICEVs, the report suggests the Chinese government use a multi-tiered phase-out plan. Under this proposal, cities are divided into four tiers based on economic development and severity of the region’s environmental degradation (See Figure 1). Leading the transition are tier one and two areas including cities like Beijing and Shanghai as well as capital cities like Xi’an in China’s “Blue Sky War” regions which are some of the most polluted in the country. Tier three and four areas include much of the country’s Northeast and Western regions such as Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang, and Tibet which are heavily reliant on coal and economically underdeveloped.

Table 1 ICE CHINA
Figure 1

The report also divides vehicles into five classes: public passenger vehicles; privately owned passenger vehicles; municipal service vehicles; coaches and intercity light freight vehicles; and medium and heavy freight vehicles (See Figure 2). Passenger vehicles and municipal service vehicles will transition from ICEVs first followed by medium and heavy freight vehicles and coaches. In the next two decades, ICEV use might increase as China’s hinterlands develop. However, the report predicts that ICEV withdrawal will come close to completion by 2050.

Table 2 China ICE Ban
Figure 2

Implications of ICEV Phase Out

The report’s plan carries important implications for global markets concerning both cars and the components necessary to support them. One consideration is that China’s peak oil consumption – and the world’s – will come earlier than anticipated. A study from researchers at Stanford University predicts that peak demand for conventional oil will occur in 2035, whereas less traditional liquid inputs will remain popular until 2070. Either way, both peaks will come earlier if China changes course away from ICEVs and deemphasizes one of its economy’s most petroleum-dependent sectors.

Along with this trend, the rare earth metals that comprise components for electric vehicles will increase in value should electric cars become mainstream in China. Elements such as nickel, lithium, lead, and cobalt are essential for the batteries in HEVs, PHEVs, and electric vehicles in general. Whereas economies reliant on oil sales will experience downturn, those with the raw resources for electric vehicle battery components will see a surge in activity. While these economies already are aware of these commodities’ anticipated values, this spike in value will occur sooner than projected should China advance its NEV technology according to iCET’s plan. For example, 49 percent of global lithium production in 2015 occurred in South America, positioning this market it particular to have advantages in a less oil-dependent future.

Along these lines, widespread NEV production implies that actors in Chinese industry would become more interested in economies that already have capacity to produce battery components. Therefore, China would become more interested in metal producing countries like Argentina, Chile, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, while also deemphasizing the importance of oil exporting nations such as Russia, Iran, and Saudi Arabia in its foreign policy.

Furthermore, Chinese involvement overseas has the potential to compound the previously listed effects and broaden the plan’s applicability outside of China. Initiatives like the BRI allow China to shape not only its own development, but also that of other countries. Although China’s sheer size allows it to shape the global market regardless, its economic reach provides an even more direct mechanism to expand its export market and promote global ICEV phase out should leaders in Beijing be inclined to this report’s suggestions.

On a larger scale, the potential for Chinese ICEV phase out in favor of more sustainable alternatives speaks to the global challenge of resource scarcity heading forward. Should the suggestions in this report materialize as policy, China would be providing an example of how to avoid relying on one of the more scarcity prone elements in the global supply chain. Consequentially, if countries like the United States cannot demonstrate that their policies provide more abundant resources and a better way of life, other countries will be inclined to cooperate with China given its system’s ability to deliver.

Obstacles to Implementation

The study concludes by outlining potential risks and problems China might encounter during the transition from ICEVs to NEVs. These problems can broadly be split into three categories related to policy limitations, resource scarcity, and infrastructure inadequacy.

In terms of policy limitations, the study encourages Chinese policy makers to clearly outline a ban schedule on ICEVs by setting up a cross-province and cross-industry committee to understand domestic and international impacts of the ban. Currently, Chinese priorities for transitioning to NEVs remain unclear to both producers and regulators, leading to implementation confusion on the ground. To avoid uncertainty going forward, the report suggests that policy makers should clarify regulatory documents to clearly state goals and expectations. Additionally, the government should implement policies to provide unemployment support for ICEV employees and bankruptcy protection for ICEV companies.

The authors go on to outline several concerning resource scarcities that might impact continued development and production of NEVs. The first problem is a scarcity of rare earth metals. Currently, China’s cobalt demand accounts for more than half of the world’s total. Nickel and lithium are also identified as potentially scarce materials. The report advises Chinese leaders to open new rare earth supply chains as well as improve battery recycling utility to prevent supply disruptions.

Finally, the report acknowledges several infrastructural problems that hamper the transition from ICEVs to NEVs. China’s electric charging infrastructure is not capable of meeting the demand of daily use of electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles. This deficiency is partly due to an overall lack of charging stations across the country. In areas with charging stations, they are often inconveniently or illogically located.

Even if stations were adequately constructed, China’s power grid is currently incapable of supporting the needed energy demand. According to the NRDC, China’s peak energy load will increase by 62 percent in 2020 and 58 percent in 2030. NEV charging during peak load hours will further strain an already struggling grid. The report advises policy makers to incorporate solutions to these infrastructural problems in future NEV transition policies.

Other disruptive technologies, especially autonomous vehicles, will profoundly influence any transition plans. While the report briefly touches on such technologies, the authors are uncertain of their effect on ICEV phase out. Regardless, the iCET report offers a comprehensive plan for Chinese policy makers to follow in restructuring the world’s largest auto market.

CFR



164 Comments on "Fossil Fuel Free: A Plan to Phase Out China’s ICEVs"

  1. I AM THE MOB on Fri, 16th Aug 2019 8:45 pm 

    Germany’s passanger car production (2000-2019). Just look at the cliff.

    https://i.redd.it/eakylzy7ltg31.jpg

  2. joe on Fri, 16th Aug 2019 11:31 pm 

    Funny, the countries that supply the most migrants supply the majority favourable ratings…… So they hate the EU government but love europe cause they benefit. hmmm, sounds familiar, wonder if I ever heard a mexican say somthing similar. not that i blame them much. poverty makes you mean, nasty, sly and clever. so does being a billionaire. its the masses of fool caught in between that are comfortable that do not see the benefit of being corrupt.

  3. Cloggie on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 12:30 am 

    I AM THE MOB is too low-iq to even understand the link he posts:

    “…but the number of eurosceptics decreases”

    https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/01/24/inenglish/1548339512_044777.html

    “The European Union: More united than ever”

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20181017IPR16308/eurobarometer-public-opinion-survey-shows-that-eu-is-more-appreciated-than-ever

    “Eurobarometer: 85% support for EU in Ireland – Public opinion survey shows that EU is more appreciated than ever”

    The geopolitical outlook has completely changed as compared to 1945.

    Now the kikes like I AM THE MOB only have the Anglos left to do the dirty work for them and both the UK and certainly the US are deeply divided about continuation of the globalist, One World, racial-communist project of abolishing nations, the entire world in the pocket of a few jewish oligarch.

    The upcoming WW3, enabled by the upcoming economic downfall and deglobalization and dedollarization, the war between Eurasia and Anglos, followed by CW2 in the US, will lead to the phasing out of kikes and Anglos from the page of time.’

    The Anglos only have enemies: China, Russia, Muslims, European populists. And even Macron opines that we need an EU-army to defend ourselves against the US.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/eu-army-trump-macron-france-europe-military-us-russia-china-defence-a8627176.html

    “Trump attacks Macron’s call for EU army to defend against US as ‘very insulting’”

    LOL

    And on top of that, I AM THE MOB thinks he can afford to go ahead with his little project of destroying and raping white Anglos, ignoring that his fellow jews and partners in crime Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, have already met the limits of what was possible.

    I AM THE MOB has repeatedly stated that he is “ready to die for his ideals’ (raping white people). That’s good, because that is exactly what’s going to happen to you. Happy dying!

  4. Cloggie on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 12:36 am 

    “Germany’s passanger car production (2000-2019). Just look at the cliff.”

    That’s because everybody is uncertain about what kind of car to buy next.

    Never mind, Communist News Network predicts that the Germans are going to win the battle for the EV. Who else?

    https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2019/08/business/electric-cars-audi-volkswagen-tesla/

    1. Germany
    2. France-Japan
    3. China
    4. US

    Europe on top again, no surprises here.

    https://www.amazon.com/End-American-Era-Geopolitics-Twenty-first/dp/0375412158/ref=sr_1_2

  5. More Davy Identity Theft on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 1:34 am 

    DavyP on Fri, 16th Aug 2019 7:04 pm

  6. More Davy Sock Puppeering on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 2:46 am 

    More Davy Identity Theft on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 1:34 am

  7. Cloggie on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 4:46 am 

    #Dad’sArmy

    Grandpa Clarke to the rescue and proposes to head a national care-taker government once BoJo and his merry band of brexiteers are ousted:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7365775/Ken-Clarke-puts-forward-lead-government-Boris-Johnson-ousted-No-10.html

    “’I’ll be PM’: Tory stalwart Ken Clarke puts himself forward to lead the government if Boris Johnson is ousted from No.10”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7365809/PETER-OBORNE-Red-lights-flashing-economic-hurricane-coming-scared.html

    “PETER OBORNE: Red lights are flashing. An economic hurricane is coming…and we should all be scared”

  8. Cloggie on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 5:40 am 

    Now you’re talking!

    World’s largest wind tower installed in Rotterdam harbor together with French-built GE-Haliades turbine for testing purposes, to set a new 12 MW offshore wind standard and beginning to get rolled out in earnest in 2 years time:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/08/17/worlds-largest-wind-tower-arrives-in-rotterdam/

  9. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 9:42 am 

    #EmptySeatMAGAtour

    https://imgur.com/OFCdGql

  10. Cloggie on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 10:11 am 

    20 years Vladimir Putin. At least the British media leftists of the Independent are honest enough to call him what he is:

    a Global Giant.

    Vladimir the Great.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-20-year-anniversary-russia-kgb-ukraine-media-democracy-a9060191.html

    “Vladimir the Great: How 20 years of Putin has shaped Russia and the world”

    I AM THE MOB’s tribe hates Putin just as much as they hate Trump and Salvini. A badge of honour.

  11. Cloggie on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 10:16 am 

    Official autopsy report: Epstein stopped smoking… errr raping for ever because of his own doing:

    Suicide.

    I’m buying.

    https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/autopsierapport-epstein-pleegde-zelfmoord~b7d40ffb/

    English:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-results.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

  12. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 11:30 am 

    Clogg

    Well see how the Putin story ends. I have my money on the worlds most powerful and undefeated tribe.

    wait and see..

  13. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 11:39 am 

    Clogg

    Just wait till no deal brexit hits. You and Europe are fucked. You already are growing at the levels of the 1930’s depression. And are projected to have zero growth by 2027. And a massive oil shortage.

    And we have fracking, Canada and ME oil.

    There just isn’t enough room for Europe at the table anymore. They have to be systematically destroyed.

  14. Cloggie on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 12:15 pm 

    “Well see how the Putin story ends. I have my money on the worlds most powerful and undefeated tribe.”

    You mean your tribe, that’s OK.
    I knew you were a fine racist.
    Exactly my kinda guy.lol

    But if I were you, I would be a little more low-key about that “underdefeated” thingy:

    https://tinyurl.com/yysptkg2

    We got you kicked out of Europe almost completely.

    https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

    Personally I don’t think you are going to geopolitically survive the internet, the counterweight against the MSM.

    The very fact that Trump is president is a sure sign of the declining influence of said trouble makers.

    “Just wait till no deal brexit hits. You and Europe are fucked.”

    Yeah, that’s the standard Jewish/American/English wet dream. Wishful thinking.

    “You already are growing at the levels of the 1930’s depression. And are projected to have zero growth by 2027.”

    Make that zero growth much earlier than 2027. For Americans that is reasons to commit suicide, but we Europeans are a different breed. The globalist corporate world needs a haircut anyway (because it is globalist). No need for more Black Fridays, instead we want young women to be discharged, go home and have babies.

    Depressions are historically the anacrusis to geopolitical reconfiguration (read: war). That would be at your cost, this time.

    “And a massive oil shortage. And we have fracking, Canada and ME oil.”

    You have indeed fracking and Canada, not so sure about the ME though.

    We have Russia, Norway, Holland, Algeria, Libya, a renewable energy industry we can quickly expand if needed and the possibility of Iranian oil and gas supplies via the Caspian, provided of course we turn into geopolitical buddies of Russia, which a populist dominated Europe will.

    In the worst case we can frack too. Or exploit massive amounts of sub-sea coal via UCG.

    Don’t worry about us. You worry about CW2, you yourself posted so many links about.

  15. Davy on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 12:39 pm 

    “Why Putin’s Nuclear-Powered Superweapon Went Up in Smoke”
    “A Q&A on the deadly Russian missile explosion, China’s growing arsenal and the new nuclear balance.”
    https://tinyurl.com/y6obbuy6 bloomberg

    There are some very interesting points in this Q&A on Russian military power

  16. Davy on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 12:39 pm 

    “Climate Activist Greta Thunberg’s Yacht Trip To America More Harmful To Environment Than Flying”
    https://tinyurl.com/y2dl8mym summit news via zero hedge

    “Climate activist Greta Thunberg’s virtue signalling trip on a $4 million dollar yacht to lecture Americans about climate change will be more harmful to the environment than if she had flown via aircraft. Thunberg and her team set sail on the Malizia II for a voyage that will take 2 weeks to reach New York. The mode of transport was deliberately chosen so Thunberg could relentlessly virtue signal about the evils of air travel. But the entire trip is a complete farce. As the German newspaper Taz points out, the yacht trip means more CO2 will be released into the atmosphere than if just Greta and her father had traveled by air because six members of her team have to fly back to Germany from New York. “The sailing trip triggers at least six climate-damaging air travel across the Atlantic. If Thunberg had flown with her father, only two would have been necessary to come to New York,” reports Taz. Indeed, a single flight from New York to Hamburg releases 1,800 kilograms of carbon dioxide, which equates to more than three quarters of what each person is entitled to a year if global warming is to be halted at 2 degrees. As James Delingpole asks, besides the rank hypocrisy of her attention grabbing yacht trip, how exactly did Thunberg come to be the lecturing face of the environmentalist movement? “A lecture, furthermore, from a child who hasn’t finished her schooling, whose frontal lobes haven’t formed, who has no sense of humour, whose every utterance is the second-hand opinion of alarmist grown-ups whose doomsday claims she is completely unequipped to assess?” he writes. But despite wall to wall positive press coverage, ordinary people just aren’t buying it. As we previously reported, German drivers have begun displaying ‘f*ck you Greta’ bumper stickers to let the 16-year-old and her handlers know exactly how they feel about being told what to do by a child”

    More FAKE Green virtue seeking liberal shit. On the other hand it beats the alternative of BAU (balls) to the walls growth.

  17. Davy on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 12:40 pm 

    “PetroChina Suspends Venezuelan Oil Imports In Huge Blow To Maduro”
    https://tinyurl.com/y6baxbe5 zero hedge

    “China National Petroleum Corp. has canceled plans to load about 5 million barrels worth of Venezuelan oil onto ships this month in the aftermath of the latest executive order by President Donald Trump, according to people with knowledge of the situation who asked not to be identified discussing proprietary information. This could prove a final massive economic blow to President Nicolas Maduro’s future prospects amid food and electricity shortages and hyperinflation, given China has been state-owned PDVSA’s top offload destination since the US brought unprecedented sanctions against it starting January 28th. The Trump administrated expanded the sanctions further on Aug. 5, aimed at severing Maduro’s final major cash lifeline. Per Bloomberg’s figures, China has imported 339,000 bpd of Venezuelan oil this year, with most transported by PetroChina, but lately Russia’s Rosneft has sought to step up after sanctions were imposed, and is expected to continue delivery to Chinese independent refineries. “The three August-loading cargoes canceled by CNPC’s subsidiary PetroChina Co. Ltd. haven’t so far attracted another buyer,” noted Bloomberg based on reports it’s seen.”

  18. Davy on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 12:40 pm 

    “Power Grid Chaos Jolts Texas On Friday, Energy Costs Triple Amid Heat Wave”
    https://tinyurl.com/y4eq3xnj zero hedge

    “The Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) has been asking customers to conserve energy this week as spot power prices in Texas triple to a record on Friday. The state’s power grid operator that serves most of Texas declared an energy conservation emergency for the second time this week, the first on Tuesday when temperatures exceeded 100 degrees, and customers cranked up their air conditioners to escape the heat. ERCOT asked customers this week to reduce energy use between 3 and 7 p.m. Here is what they asked Texans to do: Increase thermostats 2 to 3 degrees Program thermostats at a higher temp when not at home Use a fan, it can lower temperatures by 4 to 6 degrees Use appliances less (dishwashers, washers, and dryers) or only in the morning hours. Run pool pumps in the early morning or overnight hours and shut them off between 4 to 6 p.m. Keep blinds and drapes closed during the hottest part of the day. ERCOT reported no rotating power outages. “High temperatures have resulted in record electricity demand over the last few days and may result in a new record today,” said ERCOT President and CEO Bill Magness. “Consumers can help lower energy consumption by taking some simple actions between the hours of 3 and 7 p.m.”

    “Real-time prices soared to ERCOT’s $9,000/MWh offer cap for several 15-minute intervals for a second time this week, said Reuters. Refinitiv data said it was the fourth time prices hit that cap after January 2018, May 30 and Aug. 13. And with the heat wave expected to strain the grid even more over the weekend, ERCOT projected demand would climb to over 73,200 MW on Friday and 74,000 MW on Saturday. One MW can power 1,000 U.S. homes on average, but as few as 200 during peak demand periods. ERCOT has 78,000 MW of generating capacity to meet demand over the weekend. The jump in energy costs shows just how unpredictable the Texas power market has become as coal-fired generators are retired for cheaper natural gas and renewable energy sources.”

  19. Davy on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 12:42 pm 

    FYI I will be commenting later today so any Davy comments until this evening are from the troll juanpee.

  20. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 17th Aug 2019 9:44 pm 

    Bernie Sanders will declare war on white nationalism

    https://i.redd.it/nh636cykc2h31.jpg

  21. Cloggie on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 2:22 am 

    “Bernie Sanders will declare war on white nationalism”

    Bring it on Bernie! Jews against whites, what could possibly go wrong? Jews may have more IQ-points, but whites have more fists (and in the US case, more guns).

    Seriously, the Final Solution of the American problem is of course to split up that XXL-country and give every tribe a reserve of its own, like already happened to the “Indians”, so they can’t crack each other’s skulls any more.

    And if 2 billion Eurasians can be of any help, just give us a call. That’s what friends are for.

    We kindly advise Bernie to take the first train to the East, in his case that would be Upstate New York, the future home of Jews world-wide and as such auto-deport himself, before somebody else does it for him. At least now he can do the trip while enjoying the view and consume a bagel with his coffee. In a cattle car such service is not guaranteed.

  22. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:12 am 

    Clogg

    Your movement is a bunch of loser incels. They can only attack innocent people who have no defenses.

    Pounding cheeseburgers is all your great white race is good at now.

    HAHA!

  23. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:19 am 

    White Supremacists Want a Dirty Bomb
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/08/16/white-supremacists-want-a-nuclear-weapon/

    They must be stopped! And that means cutting off the snakes head ie Putin..

  24. Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:52 am 

    I see it was a pretty lame forum with the night crowd. Juanpee did his mindless trolling. makato said nothing. Extremist liberal stupidity. White racist nonsense and this morning the anti-faaaaa wannabee soon to be considered the terrorist shit he is. LOL. Here is what I found this morning. Not much but this battery tech is interesting. No comments until lunch. I am taking this approach to attempt to clean up the forum. Juanpee has less material to troll.

  25. Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:52 am 

    “Our Cell and Battery Technology Advantages”
    https://tinyurl.com/yxldydct oxis energy
    https://tinyurl.com/y3noueah graph
    https://tinyurl.com/yx8sttrw pdf

    “Lightweight Battery systems using metallic Lithium are known to offer the highest specific energy. Sulfur represents a natural cathode partner for metallic Li and, in contrast with conventional lithium-ion cells, the chemicals processes include dissolution from the anode surface during discharge and reverse lithium plating to the anode while charging. As a consequence, Li-S allows for a theoretical specific energy in excess of 2700Wh/kg, which is nearly 5 times higher than that of Li-ion. OXIS’s next generation lithium technology platform offers the highest energy density among lithium chemistry: 400 Wh/kg already achieved at cell level…Cost Effectiveness Li-S production cost projections are significantly lower than Li-Ion due to lower raw material cost (i.e. Sulfur) and high energy density (less material required for same energy). This cost advantage is expected to be a key driver for widespread adoption of Li-S technology. Full discharge OXIS cells have a 100% available Depth-of-Discharge. This compares with Li-ion batteries which are only used across 80% (or less) of their available discharge range. OXIS cells use all their stored energy – full discharge. Maintenance free OXIS cells have an indefinite shelf-life, with no charging required when left for extended period. Li-ion batteries require a recharge every 3-6 months to prevent failure and often causes significant warranty issues. Eco friendly The OXIS Li-S chemistry is considered to have less environmental impact when compared to other technologies such as Li-ion. The Li-S cell utilises sulfur in place of heavy metals such as cobalt, which have a significant environmental impact, whereas the sulfur used in OXIS manufacture is a recycled material, a by-product of the oil industry.”

  26. Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:52 am 

    FYI Davy off line until lunch.

  27. Cloggie on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 7:34 am 

    “Our Cell and Battery Technology Advantages”

    Thanks, Davy.

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/08/18/advances-in-lithium-sulfur-batteries/

    0.4 kWh/kg already achieved –> 4 km/kg range. 150 kg battery –> 600 km

    Tesla battery currently ca. 600 kg.

    Batteries are back in the race again, against fuel cell.

  28. juanpee ID Fraud on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 8:17 am 

    Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:52 am

    FYI Davy off line until lunch

  29. Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 8:28 am 

    I just checked. 36 out of the 78 comments on this article are from me, and not one of my comments is on topic.

    BTW, I am spending less time on this lame unmoderated forum to concentrate on my own blog.

  30. Professor J. Averill Snoopington, IV on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 8:32 am 

    Good idea, Davy. The more offline you are the less there is to troll. Get the connection? Tomorrow try going offline for 24 hours. Then one week. Then for good. That will stop Juanpee for good.

    I would advise that you now establish contact with the Ozark community mental health clinic for participation in group therapy. Then you will have a buddy when withdrawal kicks in. Bonus: Maybe a new hook-up with ebony twink. One never knows.

  31. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 10:07 am 

    Trump’s crowd at union rally were paid to be there
    https://apnews.com/00061b19834849f8b6e1aa73ecdf54e4

    Oh the soviet union would be proud!

  32. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 10:09 am 

    Blue Texas, at last? Here’s why the real fight isn’t for the White House
    https://www.alternet.org/2019/08/blue-texas-at-last-heres-why-the-real-fight-isnt-for-the-white-house/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1167&recip_id=2946&list_id=2

    Its just a matter of time before Texas turns blue due to demographic changes. And then every election will be a certainty for the democrats. No more stupid rust belt battleground states.

    HAHA!

  33. Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 11:16 am 

    Lunch Time!

    FYI Davy offline until this evening. All posts under Davy are juanpee.

  34. Cloggie on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 2:20 pm 

    White Supremacists Want a Dirty Bomb

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/08/16/white-supremacists-want-a-nuclear-weapon/

    …says an (((Epstein))), a name with a familiar ring. Ah yes, one of Mobster’s “invincible tribe”.lol

    The f* just (probably his brother) committed suicide.

    Foreign policy, run by a (((Jonathan Tepperman))) also has great worries about the state of Holland:

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/20/the-new-dutch-disease-is-white-nationalism/

    “The New Dutch Disease Is White Nationalism”

    An upstart far-right party in the Netherlands threatens to entrench xenophobia in one of Europe’s most progressive countries.

    LOL, that was half a century ago, tepperflop. The Netherlands was in 2002 about to have the first white nationalist prime minister, but was JFK-ed, no doubt through intervention of foreign “intelligence agencies”.

    Must I really remind you that Apartheid is a Dutch word?

  35. Cloggie on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 2:57 pm 

    BoJo looking for trouble: let’s give him hell.

    https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/brexit-und-die-folgen-das-ende-des-europaeischen-imperiums-kolumne-a-1282262.html

    “Der Asterix von Londinium”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/14/boris-johnson-interview-we-can-be-the-heroes-of-europe-by-voting/

    “Boris Johnson interview: We can be the ‘heroes of Europe’ by voting to Leave”

    This asshole is setting himself up as the self-styled “Liberator of Europe”, pretending that the EU is a sort of British empire, where countries are rammed into against their will, rather than what it really is: a union of free nations who volunteered to overcome excessive nationalism.

    “He claims Winston Churchill would be joining him on the Brexit bus”

    Actually you Brexit idiot, it was war criminal Churchill, who recommended western European nations to unite in a “United States of Europe” (his words) in the face of the enormous Soviet threat, the mass murderer himself had helped creating:

    https://www.churchill-in-zurich.ch/en/churchill/en-churchills-zurcher-rede/

    The reality is that the English, the world’s #1 water carrier of the jews (Americans are merely clueless) have instigated a devastating war against the core of Europe, first to protect the supremacy of the British empire, the second time as a proxy of US jewry:

    https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2019/05/britain-started-wwi-and-wwii-and-both-times-blamed-germany.html

    Make no mistake about these fuckers, they are preparing to destroy us again…

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/04/27/barnier-verhofstadt-farage-wants-to-destroy-the-eu/

    The English are setting themselves up as European practice material for the real deal: the European intervention in the coming civil war in North-America.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1166246/gibraltar-news-spain-rock-ownership-Brexit-latest-update

    Britain needs a regime change, that can only be achieved through war. Let’s prepare for one in case BoJo does manage to get his no-deal Brexit done. Then all gloves are off. It’s them or us.

  36. keepingupwithqardashian-al-amerikiakafmr on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 3:59 pm 

    why does suprtard love muzzies so muc?
    muzzie shot up 6 cops in phil and the reaction is moar muzzie lovin’. if muzzies shot ppl, we apologize for islamophobia. if someone shot muzzies we apologize for islamophobia. cops will love muzzies even more after they’re shot by muzzies.

  37. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 4:11 pm 

    clogg

    Shooting the messenger doesn’t change the message. Arguments are based on their merits.

    You are the most weak minded person I have ever talked to. You are going to get your ass handed to you. Trust me

    You can’t win.

  38. Cloggie on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 4:43 pm 

    “Trust me, You can’t win.”

    I don’t trust you.

    Your tribe already admitted defeat:

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/01/07/the-good-news-zog-is-dying/

    The only remaining interesting question is: who gets what from the Anglo loot?

  39. Cloggie on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 4:51 pm 

    “Defying Allies, Italy Signs On to New Silk Road With China”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/23/world/europe/italy-china-xi-silk-road.html

    Anglosphere has no future, Italy is giving the good example.

    CW2 Portland:

    https://youtu.be/M0vXGzw7pM0

  40. Cloggie on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:11 pm 

    https://youtu.be/h8RRM1-6J9I

    Richard Spencer and some jew discuss the white ethno-state.

  41. Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:13 pm 

    This is not about Trump being special this is about how awful the Democrats are AND they are doubling down on failed behavior. The modern Liberal equals a fascist and is intellectual blind. Some day a true progressive will come along who is honest then maybe this country can get out of the ditch. Own Trump you fools you deserve him.

    “People Don’t Want To Be Stupid Twice’: Foreign Diplomats Betting On Trump Win In 2020”
    https://tinyurl.com/y6964whf zero hedge

    Following Donald Trump’s upset victory in the 2016 US election, foreign diplomats who have spent over two years adjusting to Trumpian diplomacy are now coming to grips with the following; Trump’s 2016 win was not a fluke, he has a good chance of winning again, and there’s no ‘just riding it out’ anymore. “In 2016, nobody believed he was going to be elected. People don’t want to be stupid twice,” former French Ambassador to the US, Gerard Araud, told Politico. “The way it looks to people is it’s going to be another four years,” one Arab diplomat said, adding. “If he gets reelected, he’s bound by nothing, except Congress. And I don’t know how that’s going to play out.” One Asian ambassador told Politico that every embassy in Washington is operating “on the basis that the president has more than an even chance at being reelected.”

    “If Trump does win as now expected among Diplomatic ranks, allies such as France and German will have to give some serious consideration to their military and economic partnerships with the United States, and that if Trump wins, “future Democratic candidates will be more nationalistic,” according to Wright. “It’s not Trump, it’s much wider than him,” a senior EU diplomat told Politico. “It’s not anymore that we are the two allies fighting together against threats like terrorism. The way they look at us now is mainly as a market to conquer against Chinese interests. It has become a bilateral struggle between them and the Chinese for who conquers Europe or Africa.” “What I’m saying right now is, I think, shared by many people,” said a Middle Eastern diplomat of the 2020 election, adding “It’s his to lose.”

  42. Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:14 pm 

    “Lessons From Venezuela: Violence, Crime, & Gangs When SHTF”
    https://tinyurl.com/y4635drv organic prepper via zero hedge

    “once regular law and order get lost, this is what you must expect. This is what you must hide from. This is what you can’t combat against, unless you are better armed, with numeric advantage, and can take them down silently. This, dear fellows, is the exact situation that must be avoided at all cost. This is the situation you don’t want nearby. These are the guys who are going to be roaming free if things go really bad. Maybe without any family to take care of. Without any desire to keep living. That thin layer, that microns-thick coating of civilization will be lost in much less time than we could imagine. Drugs and alcohol addiction, added to an increasing scarcity of these products, will bring afloat the worst of the criminal personalities that will be common in the streets and roads. Maybe some of them could arrive nearby our homestead. This is why concealing and inaccessibility are so paramount. This is why camouflage and silent operations of self-defense are going to be so important, living in the woods. I am used to city living. There are few things that I used to enjoy of my former life, more than having my Saturday morning foamy and smoking latte, in a table outside the cafeteria while reading my newspaper. But how are you going to sit peacefully with this kind of things going on around? Good thing is, I have practiced in the woods enough already how to walk without any noise, and after living in this huge, impersonal city, I know I won’t miss city life ever again.”

  43. Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:14 pm 

    A great example of makato’s golden Asia and the cloggo’s Eurasia fantasies. LOL, last man standing anyone?
    “I Don’t Want My Money Trapped Here” – Hong Kong Hit By Capital Exodus As Protests Drag On”
    https://tinyurl.com/y4453r86 zero hedge

    “As the protests in Hong Kong enter their 11th week with a massive rally on Sunday, more Hong Kongers are beginning to worry that their money isn’t safe any more, and a great exodus of capital has begun – an exodus that has challenged the Hong Kong dollar’s multi-decade standing peg to the greenback, just as hedge fund investor Kyle Bass bet would happen. Particularly after this week’s protests at the airport, and the intensifying threats from Beijing, more people are looking for ways to move their money to safer havens, particularly as the Hong Kong market, which was resilient during the early days of the protests, has started to soften.”

  44. Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:14 pm 

    Poor Juanpee did not have much to play with today. Below is his daily dirt. I will be off line the rest of the night. Any Davy comments are Juanpee. Fuck Juanpee and the whore that bore him. LMFAO

    Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 8:36 am Give me cock (ebony) or give me death!!!!
    Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:52 am
    Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 8:28 am
    Davy on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 11:16 am
    juanpee ID Fraud on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 8:17 am
    keepingupwithqardashian-al-amerikiakafmr on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 3:59 pm
    Professor J. Averill Snoopington, IV on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 8:32 am

  45. makati1 on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 5:40 pm 

    Davy, do you actually believe that the US is “a safe haven” for money?
    When the next bank bailout will be with YOUR deposit, not the Fed’s?

    When all of the US government bonds and Treasuries are nothing but worthless IOUs, never to be paid back?

    Where property values are already slip slidin’ and corporations are propped up with borrowed money?

    Where the infrastructure is disintegrating and stores are closing by the thousands?

    If that is your idea of safety….LMAO!

  46. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 6:03 pm 

    makati1-
    My Pilipina sister in law is visiting.

  47. makati1 on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 6:31 pm 

    Duncan, nice! I hope she enjoys her stay. I did not go back to visit my family in the US this year. Maybe next, if the fan doesn’t get hit before.

    My partner’s sister is moving back to the Philippines to protect her teenage daughter from the negative influences of the US schools and kids.

    Interesting times.

  48. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 6:31 pm 

    Putin’s reputation tanks!

    http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1566167759456.jpg

    Take back what is yours Russia!

    A false flag should be soon.

    You can’t beat us Clogg. You are to dumb and low IQ.

    We will beat you..Like always. We are undefeated. You have never won yet.

  49. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 8:06 pm 

    At the Portland Proud Boys rally

    https://i.redd.it/nf54qhbdg7h31.png

  50. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 18th Aug 2019 8:34 pm 

    At the Portland Proud Boys rally
    Going to be in Portland for a week next month.

    Hope none of these fat boys pass out on the sidewalk, and make walking hard.

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