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A Look Inside The Chat Room The Deep State Uses To Fight Trump
The possible existence of a subversive American “deep state” has captivated the attention of political observers and supporters of President Trump for months, and for the first time, evidence has allegedly surfaced that casts a light on the shadowy operations of a group many claim is working to bring down the Presidency.
This information comes as President Trump is battling his worst week in Washington so far. In the past seven days, a constant stream of leaks and unsourced stories have sent the Trump White House into a tail-spin, and calls for his impeachment have grown.
On Wednesday night, just hours after the Dept. of Justice appointed a Special Prosecutor to handle the Trump/Russia probe, a series of screenshots began spreading around the Dark Web, a colloquial term for the portion of the Internet that is unlisted in search engines and requires special encrypted software to access. The Dark Web is known as the “Internet home” to those who wish to communicate anonymously and hacker groups like Anonymous.
An unidentified user going by “FreshCamel” posted on several Dark Web message boards Wednesday evening asking other users to help him make sense of communications he had intercepted on a messaging platform called Gliph, a secure messaging service that uses end-to-end encryption to prevent communications from being tracked back to those who sent them.
This individual did not provide much context regarding the source of these communications, but American users quickly put the pieces together.
On initial inspection, the screenshots, which are printed in their entirety below, appear to be taken from a short, highly-coded conversation held between approximately 5 individuals in the United States intelligence community on Wednesday, May 17th from 2:31 pm to 3:15 pm.
Third Estate Newsgroup’s Contributing Editor Micah Bull made contact with “FreshCamel” late Wednesday night via an encrypted email service, and this individual confirmed that he had accessed the personal computer of an employee at the FBI sometime around April 24th. This access had been obtained through a falsified “phishing” email that installed spyware on this employee’s computer when opened. “FreshCamel” declined to identify this individual for the time being, but confirmed that he or she is a higher-level employee in the Bureau.
According to “FreshCamel,” this individual’s computer is used to join a secured chat channel on Gliph approximately four times per week for exactly 45 minutes each session. Activity has increased in recent days, “FreshCamel” confirmed. For weeks, “FreshCamel” casually monitored these chats without realizing what they were, but when a topic of discussion in Wednesday’s chat became a major news story in the United States just hours after the chat was closed, he decided to seek help.
The screenshots from Wednesday’s chat are printed below:
These screenshots show a 45 minute chat on the afternoon of Wednesday, May 17. From 2:31 pm to 3:15 pm, 5 separate users sent a total of 20 messages. “FreshCamel” confirmed that there were a total of 13 users “present” in the chat room, but the users known as “Severus,” “Roger,” “Huck,” “Juules,” and “Dooku” are those who consistently speak the most in these daily chats.
The chat begins with mention of “RR” and Mueller, hours before Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein announced that former FBI Director Robert Mueller would be named as the Special Prosecutor handling the probe into the Trump campaign’s communications with Russia. The users admit that the news will “blindside” the White House.
Then, the topic of conversation turns to an individual referred to as “MF” and whether or not these users should work to “put [him] back in the news.” They eventually agree that an individual known as “S” will work to draft a “memo” somehow connecting “MF” to Turkey and the user known as “Huck” will use a secured connection with their “friends in New York.”
On Thursday, a major story broke that former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn had accepted money from the Turkish government and then intervened on their behalf in U.S. military operations. Flynn and Trump associates have denied these reports, but Flynn remains the subject of an ongoing FBI investigation. The allusion to a “memo” also comes after news broke that former FBI Director James Comey wrote in a memo that President Trump directly asked him to end the investigation into Flynn.
The chat goes on to cover several other topics: including a “project” involving an individual who this groups refers to as “Limey,” a term for a British citizen. In recent months, a former British Member of Parliament named Louise Mensch has captivated the Internet with reports and leaks that are often proven as false or dubiously-sourced. Mensch’s reports often suggest that the FBI and “deep state” are close to indicting and arresting Flynn and several other Trump associates for espionage.
Third Estate Newsgroup suspects, but cannot confirm, that this mention of “Limey” refers to Mensch, and if true, would suggest that Mensch’s “sources” might be members of the intelligence community, but could be feeding her false information to support their own leaking and disinformation operations.
Third Estate Newsgroup is working to confirm the identify of the “tape” that these individuals delivered to someone referred to as “AEWP,” but has not had any success so far.
The conversation ends when the individual known as “Juules” comments that the media will have their hands full because “RM is happening tonight,” seemingly referring to the announced appointment of Robert Mueller just hours after this specific chat was closed.
“FreshCamel” told Third Estate Newsgroup that the conversations held by this group were often coded, and because he didn’t pay close attention to American politics, he didn’t realize that these individuals were discussing anything more than normal work responsibilities. Due to the nature of the messaging platform, he could not screenshot conversations after they had occurred, but confirmed that “MF” (Michael Flynn) and “Limey” (Louise Mensch) had been topics of conversation before.
“FreshCamel” is not currently aware of the identities or affiliations of the other members in the group, but suggested that they are all members of intelligence organizations. Third Estate Newsgroup has independently reviewed and verified these screenshots and other information provided by “FreshCamel.”
These screenshots might just be the first “proof” for Trump supporters who have decried the existence of a subversive “deep state” working to bring down Trump’s presidency for months. Somehow, the individuals present in this chat were aware of both the timing and identity of the Special Prosecutor before he was announced, and seemed to provide the information used in the stories about Flynn that surfaced on Thursday.
The references to other groups within this chat, such as “the company group” and the “grapevine”, suggest that this group is just one of many groups within the intelligence community that are conversing secretly about topics and operations related to the investigation into Donald Trump.
Third Estate Newsgroup remains in contact with “FreshCamel,” and will work to bring you more as we discover it.
112 Comments on "A Look Inside The Chat Room The Deep State Uses To Fight Trump"
GregT on Thu, 25th May 2017 10:03 am
The SCS is 10,000 km away from the US of A, off of China’s coast. ‘Putting’ American warships there is not normal. It is an act of aggression. And Davy, a little FYI; both China and Russia have anti-American agendas, for very obvious reasons. They are not interested in a unipolar world order.
Cloggie on Thu, 25th May 2017 10:10 am
You want to see the US decline, China to rise as an offset and all this allowing a resurgent Europe to go back to governing its destiny which is marginal now. Both you and makati have this anti-American agenda and this SCS issue is just another place for it to be broadcast.
Davy, it is not up to me to “want to see the US decline”. Several high-ranking Americans, who can not be accused of “anti-Americanism”, like Pat Buchanan, have said that the US is in decline. I picked that up. Here is a CFR Jew saying the same and saying that Europe could experience a comeback:
https://www.amazon.com/End-American-Era-Geopolitics-Twenty-first-ebook/dp/B000XUDGTY/ref=sr_1_1
Even you repeatedly said that the US empire is in decline. I have taken note of that.
It is also true that I keep saying that China, not the EU, has the potential of becoming the new overarching super power and that “we” need to respond. 1300 million people with an IQ of 105… do the math.
Russia has clearly said it wants to be part of Europe. I have made a note of that as well.
The rise of China makes Paris-Berlin-Moscow inevitable.
Then there is America, governed (until November 2016) by a group of people that wants to phase folks like you and me out via mass migration and multicult ideology. I don’t like being “phased out”, so I am sorry if it hurts your feelings, but I can’t be a friend of Washington.
Furthermore I took notice that quite a lot of European Americans hate what is happening to their country. And that hate is no longer just expressed on right-wing sites, but in November also via the voting-booth. I took note of that as well. I see Alex Jones types with “1776” t-shirts on and begin to sense the possibility of secession, now that large numbers of European Americans begin to understand that “white life” was very precious, an insight the rest of the world had understood long before.
All these observations, not wishful thinking has lead to my political views.
It’s not rocket science.
onlooker on Thu, 25th May 2017 10:36 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VFBbjpE
It’s people. Soylent green is people
Hey it makes sense with the Natural world devastated and so many humans
onlooker on Thu, 25th May 2017 11:00 am
I am afraid Davy, Greg is right. We have no business sticking our nose half a world away, We have more than enough problems at home. We should start looking inward rather than outward. This could have the bonus effect of calming the Muslim community. By the way I found this. Pretty revealing
Global Warfare: “We’re going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran..”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166
GregT on Thu, 25th May 2017 11:16 am
Like I’ve been saying for at least 3 years now Onlooker, the destabilization of Iran has always been the ultimate goal.
Trump, Netanyahu focus on Iran as common enemy
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/22/donald-trump-benjamin-netanyahu-focus-iran-common-/
The Donald™ and Bibi are on a first name basis. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
onlooker on Thu, 25th May 2017 11:27 am
Yep makes sense. Iran has alot of Oil, has been defiant of US for some time, is the Shia counter balance to KSA ruling Sunnis and has nuclear capabilities. Of course easier said than done. I actually remember reading some time in 2005 from Michael Ruppert that Russia and China had drawn the line in the sand with Iran and Neocons had to put brakes on their plans
Davy on Thu, 25th May 2017 11:42 am
Sure we do onlooker. Until we retreat back to our borders we have interest and obligations. We live in a globalized world. We have the right to freedom of navigation. That is the rule of international waters. We have allies and friends there. Greg is anti-American so I would expect that comment out of him.
GregT on Thu, 25th May 2017 12:59 pm
Russia and China are going to do everything in their power to stop Washington and Tel aviv from continuing on with their global reign of terror.
GregT on Thu, 25th May 2017 1:03 pm
“Until we retreat back to our borders we have interest and obligations.”
‘We’? And you wonder why people consider you to be delusional Davy. THEY, don’t give a rat’s ass, about YOU. You are a number Davy, and a source of revenue. Nothing more.
onlooker on Thu, 25th May 2017 1:33 pm
Again this is now so obvious. The interests and well being of the masses has never been aligned with the interests and well being of the elite wealthy and the power structures corrupted by and beholden to them. It will be even more so in the future
DerHundistlos on Thu, 25th May 2017 1:54 pm
Siss, minor correction regarding Soylent Green. Actually, the oceans were dead thus, as with Easter Island, the only source of protein was human. I remember how prophetic when the character played by Edward G. Robinson said, “there is never any relief from the heat…..it’d like we are living in a greenhouse all year long.” Hell of a statement for 1972.
Davy on Thu, 25th May 2017 2:20 pm
Why the emotion greg? You know what “we” means. You are getting worse every year that goes by. Your anger and anti-social behavior may be from your boredom from having nothing to do. Maybe you need a job.
makati1 on Thu, 25th May 2017 5:38 pm
Davy, “same shit, another day” describes you perfectly. Again, no factual rebuttal, just bullshit.
Davy on Thu, 25th May 2017 7:15 pm
makati I am so glad I am not on your ignore list anymore. This has been fun.
GregT on Thu, 25th May 2017 8:40 pm
“You know what “we” means.”
Yes I do, but obviously you do not. It isn’t ‘your’ country Davy, and it isn’t ‘your’ military. There is no ‘we’, ‘mine’, ‘my’ or ‘ours’ about it. You have no say in the matter, and ‘they’ don’t give a flying fuck about anything that you think. Pure delusion on your part.
Sissyfuss on Fri, 26th May 2017 12:35 am
Derhund, you’re right about the dead oceans although the PTB tryed to keep that secret. Edward G had just died when I saw the movie so his scene at the suicide parlor left me transfixed, especially when my darling Ludwig’s first movement of his 6th Symphony accompanied the Nature scenes. It came out the same year that Limits to Growth was published.
Prophecies at every turn back then, all ignored.
Cloggie on Fri, 26th May 2017 2:38 am
Philippines the next Syria?
Already in 2014 Reuters reported about Muslim Filipinos gaining combat experience in Syria and Iraq:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-philippines-idUSKBN0H804R20140913
Officially there are 6%, but in reality more likely 11% = 10.7 million Sunni Muslims in the South:
http://blogbard.typepad.com/.a/6a0105370922f3970b015433aa26a1970c-320wi
These Muslims want independence from Manila.
Meanwhile you are advised not to travel to the South if you are Christian and attached to your head (and your head attached to you).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4540610/ISIS-militants-shoot-nine-Christians-dead-Philippines.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/isis-maute-priest-churchgoers-hostage-manila-philippines-a7752436.html
Christianity was the dominant religion on the planet until 1900. On a political level, the 20th century was for Judaism (USA, USSR –> Europe) but for this century Islam clearly has the ambition to make this their century. Islam arrived in the Ps in the 14th century, the Spanish brought Christianity in the 16th century and killed everybody who refused to understand that Jesus was love.
Cloggie on Fri, 26th May 2017 2:50 am
“Germans are bad, very bad”
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump-bei-der-eu-die-deutschen-sind-boese-sehr-boese-a-1149282.html
Not intended for public consumption, but during a session with EU grands yesterday, Trump has expressed criticism against Germany and its massive export surpluses to the US. Trump says he intended to stop the Germans of selling millions of cars in the US.
The knowledge level of Team Trump was very low; they thought they could have separate trade deals with individual EU countries, instead of with the EU (for most North-Americans the EU simply doesn’t exist).
It is clear that Germany needs to prepare for declining exports to the US, now that the US has lost the competition with the rest of the developed world.
US protectionism is next.
makati1 on Fri, 26th May 2017 4:30 am
Cloggie, Reuters/Daily Mail/Independent rags are hardly good sources of facts. Propaganda, yes. Facts, no. The problem in Mindanao is not new, nor is it going to be “another Syria”. Duterte is going to either make peace or wipe them out. The U$ is the one that coddles them and gives them weapons and supplies all over the world.
Not all Filipino Muslims want independence, only the rebels. They will get ‘independent’ graves if they push too hard. Duterte is NOT like the wimpy, U$ ass kissing previous presidents. He has already asked Russia for accurate smart bombs to take them out.
Cloggie on Fri, 26th May 2017 4:39 am
Reuters/Daily Mail/Independent rags are hardly good sources of facts.
http://gulfnews.com/news/mena/iraq/100-filipino-muslims-join-isil-in-iraq-1.1374342
100 Filipino Muslims join Isil in Iraq
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/08/26/over-100-filipino-youngsters-recruited-for-islamic-state/
Over 100 Filipino Youngsters Recruited for Islamic State
Sometimes Reuters is forced to publish some facts in between the globalist propaganda.
makati1 on Fri, 26th May 2017 4:50 am
Cloggie, perhaps a few crumbs amid the propaganda, but usually just BAU for the Imperial Mouthpieces. This is why I keep saying that the sooner the U$ goes down, the better for the rest of the world.
I would like to see an 80% crash in the stock market casino there soon. When they cannot afford war, the wars will stop. Except in the FSA, of course. Civil War 2 is inevitable there.
Cloggie on Fri, 26th May 2017 5:01 am
Obama visits Berlin to attend “Church-day” together with Merkel. Public Q&A for 80 minutes. Clear globalist nostalgia for the pre-Trump days with Merkel and Obama:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXrmmVMnUg4
But these days will never return.
#ByeByeGlobalism
Davy on Fri, 26th May 2017 6:25 am
What’s the matter makati? Is your little charade of a refuge crumbling? Is the P’s another Syria? Clog is right your country is facing a civil war like anywhere else race and religion is mixing in turmoil. You want to brag about your club med and tell me an IS flag will be raised here. What a crock of shit. Things are going to fall apart here but worse awaits you in your 27story apartment above 20MIL that stretch as far as your failing eyes can see. I think this is going to be your life’s biggest failure and you have many. You bought into a country that you think is immune from he worst ahead of climate change and over population. You reality is you are in a hornets nest of doom and act like you are in an idyllic nest of safty.
Davy on Fri, 26th May 2017 6:46 am
“Not intended for public consumption, but during a session with EU grands yesterday, Trump has expressed criticism against Germany and its massive export surpluses to the US. Trump says he intended to stop the Germans of selling millions of cars in the US.”
Clog, you should take pause that so much of Europe’s industrial surpluses come from exports like cars with no future. Your affluence is built upon a way of life set to decline. Once your affluence is gone it will be a short drop into nationalistic turmoil. This is little different from the US or China as the other great economic powers. All of us are interconnected so once this process effects one of these powers all will follow. Your car exporting giant German is a hollow and set to fall like the rest. Europe will struggle with this as it tries to reinvent itself.
It is admirable what Europe is doing with alternative energy but decline and collapse involves so much more than energy. Alternative energy transformation is likely not going to save you. It will make you more resilient if you do it wisely but of course you are not doing it wisely. You are using an extreme urge towards excessive techno complexity of a Euro wide grid based on alternative energy instead of decentralized and local based efforts in greatly reduced affluence. No, your Europe wants the affluence and the transformation. The classic fallacy of having cake and eat it. You will likely fail when you could be a beacon of hope. We are all going to fail and your effort is better than my country that has a president talking about more airports and highways but don’t mistake our failure for your success.
Davy on Fri, 26th May 2017 7:04 am
“Marawi: Foreign fighters ‘among militants in Philippine city”
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40056134
“The admission confirms what observers see as moves by IS targeting Muslim-majority parts of the southern Philippines to establish a stronghold in South-East Asia. “It is clear that the number of men from both Indonesia and Malaysia who have travelled to Mindanao has increased over the past year,” Sidney Jones, director of the Institute for Policy Analysis of Conflict in Jakarta, told the BBC. “And it’s crucial that the government acknowledges that there is a serious IS problem in the Philippines,” she said, saying much better co-ordination between local and national authorities was needed to deal with the situation. She warned that images of militants in Marawi were already having an impact on social media, working as PR for the militant groups. “There’s a lot of praise and enthusiasm,” she said.”
Cloggie on Fri, 26th May 2017 7:26 am
Clog, you should take pause that so much of Europe’s industrial surpluses come from exports like cars with no future. Your affluence is built upon a way of life set to decline. Once your affluence is gone it will be a short drop into nationalistic turmoil. This is little different from the US or China as the other great economic powers
It is obvious that the global car industry (including the German one) is facing Armageddon in the light of the coming self-driving car and declining private car ownership. But I disagree with your beloved idea of general “failure”. As if there is nothing but a car industry to live for. Society will move into a different direction, more localized, less mobile, more individual free time and with new models of social security (probably low base income). And we will still have a grid, Europe-wide.
makati1 on Fri, 26th May 2017 7:26 am
Davy, nothing is crumbling except, perhaps the few brain cells you have left. Nothing has really changed here. There has been similar events here all of my 9 years stay. Nothing new except a president that won’t take their shit. If the Us had a real president and he was like Duterte, you might survive what is coming, but…
makati1 on Fri, 26th May 2017 7:31 am
BTW: Maybe you should try using accurate stats and info? Rant all you like if it makes you happy. Most Americans are delusional anyway. The real world scares the shitless. That is why the drug problem is skyrocketing, along with suicide and drug deaths. They cannot handle the real world that is being forced on them. You included.
I can list hundreds of recent articles and facts to back up that statement but you would ignore them like always. Live in your pretend America and enjoy your last years before it is a chaotic hell. I will be observing from a safe and free place: the Philippines.
Davy on Fri, 26th May 2017 8:37 am
‘Nothing has really changed here. There has been similar events here all of my 9 years stay.”
How would you know 27 floors above chaos in your self-imposed trap? I imagine you venture maybe a block and then back to your hide. You refuse to see reality and choose to see only what fits your agenda of You GOOD and THEY bad. It is so easy to trample on your reality with a stance like that. You are screwed makati, really double screwed. You are old facing your twilight without health insurance or family and in a country bulging at its seams with people entering civilizational overshoot and the worst of climate change.
Cloggie on Sat, 27th May 2017 5:09 am
UK elections in 12 days. Last month May had a 24% lead, now only 5%. Please let May win so we Europeans finally get rid of these anti-Europeans.
Next president Trump’s demand for European countries to live up to the 2% NATO agreement should be followed (purpose: preparation for intervention on North-American soil and in the long run to balance growing Chinese power).
Voices from the University of Illinois:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dezv7X1VLOA
Why is Europe, not China or India, the Second Superpower of the 21st Century?
Danish ambassador to the US:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsa-guRvgWg
The European Union as a Rising Superpower
P.S. only combined with Russia can Europe be the first address again on this planet. Once that has been achieved, Europe should position itself as the protector of the interestst of European America, in competition with Washington, that seeks to wipe out European America or at least ram it into minority status (hi George Soros!).
The intentions of the US deep state are well formulated by its prominent member
NYT senior Paul Krugman, who was by interviewed by Norwegian television, August 2014.
A lot of the craziness comes from cultural/ethnic issues—rural White Americans who feel they are losing their country, and they are right. They are losing their country. In the end, the power they now have will go away, but it’s a very difficult and dangerous time until then. The future is represented by Mayor Bill DeBlasio of New York, “but Ted Cruz of Texas is still out there.”
Our European role in that drama could be that we should exploit that “difficult and dangerous time”, Krugman is referring to and support European America while it still has some strength left to defend itself against the 1% and the “rising tide of color”.
By offering 1xx million European Americans a place at the European dinner table, Europe en passant both solves it little America problem we have since 1917 as well as that we build up enough mass to balance growing Chinese power.
Davy on Sat, 27th May 2017 6:01 am
Why is Europe, China or India, not going to be the Second Superpower of the 21st Century? Why is America no longer a superpower? Why is all powers now stripped of their national identities in globalism going to decline and eventually collapse together? The reason is this is how civilizations and ecosystems evolve and devolve. We are in the devolve part.
Cloggie on Sat, 27th May 2017 6:36 am
Why is all powers now stripped of their national identities in globalism going to decline and eventually collapse together?
Could you be a little more specific about how this alleged “collapse” is going to look like?
I think that all sorts of crisis could happen:
– major political conflict in the US between nationalists and globalists in the US (after Trump)
– major global financial crisis a la 2008 or worse
– a worsening migration crisis
I no longer believe in acute energy or climate problems for the coming decades. The world may get warmer (I’m writing this post dressed in shorts only with an unprecedented temperature for May outside of 34 Celsius), but the economy will continue to function, the world will switch to renewable energy (eventually even in the US). And if CO2 is really the problem, it can be taken out of the air again.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/05/22/land-life-company-desert-reforestation-with-cocoon/
Davy on Sat, 27th May 2017 7:28 am
“Could you be a little more specific about how this alleged “collapse” is going to look like?”
Clog, you get me wrong on this collapse thing. This is a process with far too many unknowns but what is becoming known is the direction and the conditions of this direction. Your characterization is possible as far as either of us could ever know:
“I no longer believe in acute energy or climate problems for the coming decades. The world may get warmer (I’m writing this post dressed in shorts only with an unprecedented temperature for May outside of 34 Celsius), but the economy will continue to function, the world will switch to renewable energy (eventually even in the US). And if CO2 is really the problem, it can be taken out of the air again.”
My point is systematic, general, and not defining. The drag of energy, climate, and economy is not going to be conducive to growth. This will hinder your renewable energy transformation. Scrubbing CO2 out of the atmosphere is more techno fantasy. The economy will likely not maintain its current level which will mean a wall for growth of population and development. This means the 3rd world population decline which would fit your narrative but there is nothing to say an economic reset would not make developed areas stressed and in turmoil. Global war could be the end and this possibility is increasing. We cannot know climate and that could be very deadly. Energy is far from solved. The economy is going down not up.
All your hopes and visions revolve around extreme techno development. That requires wealth and stability. My point is the systematic process of collapse will hinder techno development. I am not going to put a time frame on it. What I am saying is it represents an inflection point that means decline and decay are now a primary part of this process. Growth is present also but it is not the driver any longer.
Cloggie on Sat, 27th May 2017 9:20 am
Trump refuses to acknowledge climate change as a serious problem and Merkel openly criticizes him for it:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/g7-gipfel-auf-sizilien-merkel-wirft-usa-blockade-bei-klimapolitik-vor-a-1149512.html
2 hours ago Trump tweeted:
I will make my final decision on the Paris Accord next week!
He will let us now by then via TNN (Trump News Network aka Twitter).
Trump meanwhile has a decent approval rating of 48%. No doubt by scoring quite a few points of the past weeks: 110 billion arms contract, holy pictures with the Pope, has shown in NATO-Brussels who is the boss and hasn’t really given in to “climate baloney” in Sicily as well as telling the Germans that they should keep all these millions of cars to themselves. Exactly what the deplorables want to hear.
A new bromance is developing: between Macron and Trudeau, both enthusiastically tweeting (in French) about it:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/g7-erstes-treffen-macron-trudeau-a-1149503.html
Cloggie on Sat, 27th May 2017 9:46 am
Trump doesn’t bother to put on earphones to listen to what the Italian has to say:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump-ohne-kopfhoerer-bei-g7-alle-hoeren-zu-nur-einer-nicht-a-1149518.html
Trump’s press speaker claimed afterwards that Trump did have a small earpiece in his right ear.
Everybody wanted to have a common statement about the positive aspects of immigration but, thank God, Trump blocked that. Because there aren’t any positive aspects. Instead you get more crime, more tax burden, loss of identity, lowering of standards and in the end civil war and genocide.
Cloggie on Sat, 27th May 2017 9:49 am
This is the best looking first lady since Jacqueline Kennedy. Melania, imported from Eastern Europe, can definitely show herself:
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/melanias-look-auf-der-trump-tour-fotostrecke-147818.html
Apneaman on Sat, 27th May 2017 5:51 pm
hair clog, it don’t matter what cheeto decides about the Pairs agreement which is meaningless and unenforceable. It does not matter what anyone “believes”. The Rubicon was crossed some time ago and the inertia is unstoppable. The humans are totally helpless now – nothing they do matters. Physics rules and will wipe the humans from the planet.
Alaska’s Sea Ice Is Melting Unusually Early, ‘Another Sign Arctic Is Unraveling’
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/25052017/arctic-sea-ice-disappearing-alaska-climate-change-warm-winter-chukchi-sea
clog, I guess you know that the heat chases the cold and that it takes much more energy to melt ice than it does to warm water. As more sea ice melts more of the suns energy goes into warming the dark ocean water and the area of albedo effect shrinks. A reverse positive feedback loop – death spiral.
While we’re waiting, continue to keep us posted on what all the monkey politicians say and trumps bowel movement scheduled and all that other super duper important monkey gossip. Hey why not expand your peakoil.com gossip column and include all the important words the movie stars and musicians say too?
Cloggie on Sat, 27th May 2017 6:26 pm
Your constant weather reports are not exactly on topic either, TalmudTurd.
Apneaman on Sat, 27th May 2017 6:39 pm
It’s not weather you Nazi boot licker. Didn’t they teach you the difference between climate and weather in your euro tard physics courses you can’t stop mentioning? Methinks you are lying about that too. Biggest bullshiter to ever pollute this site. Little faggot.
makati1 on Sat, 27th May 2017 6:51 pm
I would say that Ap’s “weather reports are more important than ANY oily or financial subject. The end of oil or the collapse of the economy will not affect the human condition as much as the end of humans due to changing “weather”. Ignoring something because it does not seem to affect YOUR personal space, at the moment, does not mean it is not happening and will not affect YOU in the future. Hint: IT WILL!
Apneaman on Sat, 27th May 2017 7:36 pm
Trump Filter
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-Adjust filter settings on the fly
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onlooker on Sat, 27th May 2017 8:19 pm
Yea, Clog hard to believe you don’t difference between weather and climate. Whichever, ignorance or deception does not look good on you. Yep, the end of the Oil age will still allow some of us to muddle through perhaps, as stupidly we have a bunch of nuclear reactors around that could complicate matters. But climate change is a world destroyer. As in Mass Extinction Event type of destroying. The prognosis thus has to be doomerish for us, if we are truthful with ourselves
Cloggie on Sun, 28th May 2017 4:04 am
Yea, Clog hard to believe you don’t difference between weather and climate.
Where do I say that? Don’t put words in my mouth. This was about being “on topic”. Climate change is more important than that largely irrelevant peak oil topic.
Self-described oil refinery designer Apneaman attempts to create a climate religion on this board, with the sole purpose of pushing for global governance. His tribe does never anything without a political purpose. He couldn’t care less about the environment, only about deep state political power.
Whichever, ignorance or deception does not look good on you.
Really? Why don’t you worry about how YOU look in the eyes of the rest of the world, with your insane attacks against alt-energy yesterday. Not to mention your CO2 production as compared to the rest of the developed world:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita
2013 (1995)
USA 16.4 (19.3)
Russia 12.5 (11.0)
Germany 9.2 (10.6)
China 7.2 (2.8)
France 5.0 (5.9)
It is interesting to note btw that the West manages very well to scale down on (per capita) CO2 emissions, in contrast to what often is claimed here.
Look onlooker, your country is not going to play any meaningful role in the energy transition, it will just lag behind. The US that’s old oil glory and refuses to go off that crack. The juvenile US 1% dreams about “projecting power” in the South China Sea, where behind their backs their own country is about to go up in flames:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEZ1IZw_yVE
Outside America nobody gives a f* if they look good or not in US trouble-making eyes.
ApneaTurd continues his Zionist campaign against white America:
Trump Filter
Delete Donald Trump from the Internet.
Hillary Clinton would not have made a damn difference regarding climate change or energy transition. All Americans and their deep state care for is their stupid impotent carriers and MIC. But the TalmudTurd is fighting Trump, because of Trump’s “white coup” against the US deep state. And that doesn’t sit very well with the TalmudTurd.
I’m telling you that the West is heading for its own 1989. Trump that’s the US Gorbachev. The western European US vassals and their media hate Trump, just like the Eastern European commies hated Gorbachev, because they know that if America stops being the western European overlord, the days of the western European vassals are numbered, just like the days of the Eastern European commies were numbered.
America is going to fall apart, just like the USSR. You better prepare for THAT event and worry about climate change once that event has been digested.
Davy on Sun, 28th May 2017 5:42 am
Clog, Ape is Canadian so why are you basing Americans? Your Europe is going down the toilet sir and will be first in line followed by a coin toss between the Chinese and the Americans. The rest of the dumbass tail wagged world will go where these two go. Your Europe is irrelevant and it has only been your stupid false union of barrowed affluence that keeps you pansies from turning on each other. You have much to be proud of but please you are off the deep end lately of bragging and finger pointing. You are starting to turn into a makati. I guess I have that to look forward to when I get old.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th May 2017 5:46 am
Mark Zuckerberg flirting with US presidency.
It’s apneaman’s wet dream and all the signs are that Zuckerberg is preparing for the US presidency after Trump, although he denies it, like every professional politician wannabee would do.
Unmistakable signs:
– Zuckerberg pressured share holders conference to allow Zuckerberg to remain in charge of Facebook in case he would assume public office (probably not a bell boy at the State Department)
– Zuckerberg wants to meet ordinary Americans in all 50 states.
There you go.
One of the key items will be “universal basic income”. In principle a good idea for homogeneous white nations, but for America? You thought that Obama care was bad? Wait for universal basic income… to be paid for by stupid aging Christian whitey. America is notorious for low election participation rate among colored folks. You can bet your last bottom dollar though that this time they will all line up at the voting booth. This time voting does really matter.
The real neo-Bolshevik revolution in America will begin. You want equality? You will get total equality! Zuckerberg as the upcoming American Lenin. Forget about the deep state, the deep state is about to crawl out of the sewer into the open. For them it is only a matter of “sitting out” Trump. Demographics and time is on their side.
http://daskapital.nl/2017/05/dit_filmpje_toont_aan_waarom_m.html
Cloggie on Sun, 28th May 2017 5:49 am
Clog, Ape is Canadian so why are you basing Americans?
His Canadian passport is completely irrelevant. Don’t tell me you can’t figure out what his real identity is.
Davy on Sun, 28th May 2017 6:02 am
“His Canadian passport is completely irrelevant. Don’t tell me you can’t figure out what his real identity is.”
UHH, I think you are getting those circuits crossed again like makati does. You might be seeking to get under Ape’s skin because to call a Canadian and American is about as low as it gets for the dumbasses. Yea, I agree Canada is little more than an American territory and all the Canadians here who spend their days endlessly bashing Americans have that bad taste in their mouth because of this. They just can’t shake the fact they are irrelevant kind of like Europe. Both needs their asses protected and both get slapped occasionally when they get out of line.
makati1 on Sun, 28th May 2017 6:05 am
” I have that to look forward to when I get old.”
You should be so lucky, Davy. The U$ doesn’t have another 20 years. LOL
Davy on Sun, 28th May 2017 6:14 am
Afternoon over there, makati, how’s that smog, noise, and chaos of that 20MIL you live above…LOL. Nice morning here and nothing but fresh air, quiet, and natural beauty. My god makati, 20 years you are saying now what changed? Normally you are crying wolf it will be this year and that is every year. Yea, I know it is coming but not before you drop off the face of the earth in collapse. Numbers don’t lie like you do.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th May 2017 6:37 am
Both needs their asses protected and both get slapped occasionally when they get out of line.
Protected against who? (Europe spends more on defense than Russia and China combined.)
Yeah right, like a restaurant gets “protection” from the mafia, with acceptance of the dollar as the protection fee. The way you phrase your sentence (“needs to get slapped”) makes it clear that you do not believe your own “free protection” bullshit. It was coercion all along, beginning with the bombing of all German cities, just to get a hold on Europe, together with your Soviet palls, who no longer exist.
We don’t need you for anything, European Americans instead will need us to save your asses from drowning in the third world, who are going to use you as their tax slaves and pay for commie egalitarianism, read universal health care and basic income. For starters. And they will use historic black slavery as justification:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OknULqCwl1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSn1EpR5j18
But your “power projecting hobbies” are almost history and won’t survive 2025. Don’t believe me, take it from one of your own real anti-imperial patriots:
https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-Superpower-Will-America-Survive-ebook/dp/B004YD36HS/ref=sr_1_3
The statement above as well as your recent statements about the “necessity” for America to “protect free shipping” in the South China Sea (for the US navy that is), made it clear to me that you are a 1%-er and a US imperialist, even if you pay lip service to “the end of the US empire” and even voted for Trump. What you really do is defend the US imperial status quo in anticipation of its inevitable end. An admittedly rational position. After all, why end a two week vacation prematurely after one week, just because the vacation will end next week. Enjoy your empire while it lasts. We in Europe can wait for another week.
You might be seeking to get under Ape’s skin because to call a Canadian and American is about as low as it gets for the dumbasses.
I begin to think that I overestimated you and your comprehension of who calls the shots in your own country. Go ask Greg or Theedrich or makati to get some enlightenment on the subject.