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Hurricane Harvey closes key oil and gas facilities in Texas
Key oil and gas facilities along the Texas Gulf Coast have temporarily shut down as Hurricane Harvey pounds the region with torrential rain and high winds, virtually assuring gasoline prices will rise in the storm’s aftermath.
Even before the Harvey made landfall late Friday, dozens of oil and gas platforms had been evacuated, at least three refineries had closed and at least two petrochemical plants had suspended operations.
How soon they reopen depends on the severity of flooding and the resumption of power to the areas. Experts say it’s still too early to say, with the storm still moving through the region. But they believe gas prices will increase 5 cents, to 25 cents per gallon.
Hurricane Harvey also continued to take a toll on U.S. air travel Saturday, with more than 960 flight cancellations as of mid-day, according to FlightAware. Nearly 800 of the cancelled flights were scheduled to either depart from or land at Houston’s two airports.
The shipping industry also is expected to be disrupted by the worst hurricane to hit the refinery-rich Texas coast in more than 50 years.
Here’s how Harvey is likely to affect business and pocketbooks:
— REFINERIES: Nearly one-third of the nation’s refining capacity sits in low-lying areas along the coast from Corpus Christi, Texas, to Lake Charles, Louisiana.
Several refineries at greatest risk of suffering a direct strike from high winds have already shut down, but it is the potential for flooding in the Houston and Beaumont, Texas, areas that could really pinch gasoline supplies.
Flooding and power outages caused by a storm surge are considered the biggest risk.
“The biggest driver of how much this will increase gas prices is how much rain falls in Houston during the next three days,” Andy Lipow, president of consultant Lipow Oil Associates, said Saturday. “We are in a wait-and-watch mode.”
For now, Lipow is predicting gasoline prices will rise 10 cents per gallon east of the Rockies.
Tom Kloza, an analyst for the Oil Price Information Service, predicts that prices could rise by up to 25 cents a gallon, but that an increase of 5 cents to 15 cents is more likely, assuming that the hurricane doesn’t cause lasting damage to refineries.
Flint Hills Resources announced that it would shutter a refinery before Harvey hit and Valero Energy Corp. said it was closing two facilities in Corpus Christi.
The prospect of supply interruptions sent gasoline futures to $1.74 a gallon, their highest level since April, before they retreated to around $1.67 by Friday afternoon.
In addition to the refinery closures, Formosa Plastics shut its petrochemical plant in Point Comfort, Texas, and OxyChem suspended operations at its petrochemical plant in Ingleside, Texas, according to Platts, an S&P Global division that tracks the commodities and energy industry.
— OIL AND GAS: Companies have been evacuating workers from oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico, and that is crimping the flow of oil and gas.
As of Friday, the U.S. Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement said workers had been removed from 86 of the 737 manned platforms used to pump oil and gas from beneath the Gulf.
The agency estimated that platforms accounting for about 22 percent of oil production and 23 percent of natural gas output in the Gulf had been shut down.
“We could see more production be taken offline in the Gulf of Mexico” if the path of the storm wanders farther east, said Jenna Delaney, an oil analyst for PIRA Energy. But, she noted, oil companies announced fewer platform shutdowns on Friday than they had on Thursday, which is an encouraging sign.
Exxon Mobil closed two of its platforms and was evacuating all personnel in the expected path of the storm, said spokeswoman Suann Guthrie. Shell halted operations on a big floating oil-production platform, and Anadarko evacuated workers and shut down four facilities in the western Gulf while continuing to operate those east of the storm’s predicted path.
On shore, ConcoPhillips stopped all operations in the Eagle Ford shale formation, which lies across a swath of South Texas inland from the Gulf. A company spokeswoman cited safety and potential disruptions in getting oil and gas from the wells to market during the storm.
— SHIPPING: Shipping terminals along the Texas coast shut down as the storm approached. Port operations in Corpus Christi and Galveston closed, and the port of Houston said container terminals and general cargo facilities were closing around midday Friday.
Rates for carrying freight between the Gulf of Mexico and the U.S. East Coast rose.
— TRAVEL: After nearly 1,200 flight cancellations Friday and Saturday, airlines already had canceled another 485 flights scheduled for Sunday, according to FlightAware.
Airlines were offering customers the chance to reschedule trips that would take them to Houston, San Antonio or Austin from Friday through the weekend.
— UTILITIES: Researchers at Texas A&M University estimated that the storm would knock out power for at least 1.25 million people in Texas. They said the hardest-hit areas will include Corpus Christi, which is on the coast, and San Antonio, which is about 140 miles inland.
— INSURANCE: A firm that does forecasts for insurance companies said wind-damage claims could top $6 billion, although it said losses in the low billions are more likely.
Risk Management Solutions Inc. said losses from storm surges and inland flooding could be a bigger source of losses. If the firm is correct, that would put homeowners and the government-backed National Flood Insurance Program at risk.
The flood program is run by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which owes the Treasury about $23 billion in funds borrowed to cover the cost of past disasters, according to a recent report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
Homeowner policies with insurance companies don’t typically cover flood damage, yet a relatively small percentage of homeowners have flood insurance through the federal program.
114 Comments on "Hurricane Harvey closes key oil and gas facilities in Texas"
Makati1 on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 7:25 am
I’ve been watching the storm dumping rain on the Texas coast and it looks like it is nailed in place.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-95.28,28.43,3000/loc=-97.794,29.196
I hope Boat has … well, a boat.
onlooker on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 7:34 am
Reports around and in Houston of 6 – 7+ inches of rain…per hour
That’s well above the one in 500 year level.
Reports of large numbers stranded in their cars on rapidly flooding roads.
Very bad, and getting worse.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffLindner1 … 8196968448
Many glimpses of the unfolding horrors at the comments section at Cat6:
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/heavy … ical-storm
onlooker on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 7:34 am
I hope Boat has … well, a boat.-haha
Davy on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 7:46 am
onlooker, I stand by my earlier comment this will be the US most costly storm when it is said and done. It will be the widespread flooding that does it. I maybe should say one of the most but I am sticking to the most because we have never seen widespread rain like this in the US that I remember and following a hurricane. This is unfolding and it will depend on where the storm tracks. I hope I am wrong.
onlooker on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 7:59 am
Davy, do a search on how important a hub of commerce and of the Oil/Gas Industry, Houston is and you will see that this Hurricane may induce a real serious economic/energy fall out for us in the US and by extension around the world.
Dredd on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 8:07 am
“Hurricane Harvey closes key oil and gas facilities in Texas”
Unless those facilities are run by robots they will be down a while.
People can’t travel, and are at home with water coming in through the doors, walls, and windows.
Some are on their roofs waiting for rescue.
Rescue units are swamped (The Extinction of Houston – 2)
Dredd on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 8:10 am
Davy,
You wrote “I maybe should say one of the most but I am sticking to the most”
I have heard some of the best meteorologists back up your claim by saying the same thing.
Sissyfuss on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 9:04 am
Ape-man, I’m sure you see the delicious irony of the oil cancer center of the universe reaping what it has sown. Gaia has one hell of a sense of humor,no?
twocats on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 9:50 am
thanks for the post onlooker, the WU comment thread is real-time updates that show the true nature of the catastrophe.
Davy on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 12:45 pm
Check out this hockey stick. Tell me this will not screw up US liquid fuels production, storage, and delivery.
“TROPICAL STORM HARVEY”
“Coastal Watches/Warnings and Forecast Cone for Storm Center”
http://tinyurl.com/ydy9vmap
Davy on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 12:50 pm
“NOAA Weather Prediction Center is now forecasting isolated storm total amounts of 50 inches.”
Tropical Storm Harvey Discussion Number 29 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1000 AM CDT Sun Aug 27 2017
http://tinyurl.com/ybc26sqq
“Harvey continues to meander over southeastern Texas, where it
is producing catastrophic and life-threatening flooding rainfall.
NWS radars show that bands of deep convection continue to develop
over the northwestern Gulf of Mexico and train over portions of
southeastern Texas, including the Houston/Galveston metropolitan
area. Rainfall amounts greater than 20-25 inches have already been
reported and flash flood emergencies and warnings have been issued
by local National Weather Service offices for a large portion of
southeastern Texas. Additional rainfall amounts of 15 to 25 inches
are expected over the next several days, and the NOAA Weather
Prediction Center is now forecasting isolated storm total amounts of
50 inches. These historic rainfall amounts will exacerbate the
already dire and life-threatening situation.”
onlooker on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 1:00 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/cap … 188ce68846
The European model shows Harvey moving back out into the Gulf of Mexico, strengthening and making a second landfall near Houston later this week.
Cloggie on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 1:58 pm
There are of course also advantages with Harvey:
https://www.tceq.texas.gov/assets/public/response/drought/drought-map.jpg
GregT on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 3:51 pm
There you go Cloggie,
Every humanitarian disaster of biblical proportions, has a silver lining.
onlooker on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 3:59 pm
Just heard a FEMA official or something say that the recovery in Texas will take years. And I cannot just help to think what AP has been saying that this AGW is and will economically bleed our world civilization to death. Oh and Clog you are ever the anti-doomer haha
Makati1 on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 4:08 pm
Gotta look at the bright side. This storm is good for the US’ shrinking GDP! Should add many billions to the ledger as the cleanup and rebuilding will be expensive.
I noticed that most of the buildings that were trashed were flimsy stick built boxes that did not fair well in the storm. Not smart to build such cracker boxes in a hurricane area. Better to use concrete, rebar and CMU. They hold up under storms.
Makati1 on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 4:56 pm
Another, and even worse, ‘storm’ is coming.
“Ilargi Meijer: Jackson Hole’s Deluded Groupthink Confirms “A Gigantic Financial Crisis Is Coming”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-27/ilargi-meijer-jackson-holes-deluded-groupthink-confirms-gigantic-financial-crisis-co
“As bad as things are for Americans today, they will get a whole lot worse. That is an inevitable consequence of the market distortion that QE has wrought: a gigantic financial crisis is coming.”
Buckle up!
Apneaman on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 5:48 pm
Sissyfuss, I even told boat, a year or so ago, this very same thing was going to happen to Houston and it was just a matter of time. Not just another hurricane, but the amount of energy it would bring from a warmer ocean and rain from more moisture in the atmosphere. I’ve accidentally already have read a bunch of denier comments of the “climate alwees changes/we’ve always had storms” variety, even though it’s never been this bad and this particular event isn’t finished yet either. Most humans will believe whatever makes them feel best. Logic, reason, science & data are overrated and useless in the face of that kind of mass hardcore denial. Add up the soft denial and you get over 99% of all humans including many supposed educated humans including scientists who cannot deal. It’s all too much for most humans to handle. The species never evolved to deal with shit on this scale. I have a feeling old tyme religion will be making a big comeback.
Boat on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 6:14 pm
ape,
“Logic, reason, science & data are overrated and useless in the face of that kind of mass hardcore denial”.
A big hurricane is just more data, Not the end of Houston, Texas or the world. We will see how soon storms of this magnitude/frequency become the norm.
Makati1 on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 6:25 pm
Boat, ask those who have lost all they had or, even worse, a lived one or more, how important this storm is. May you experience such a feeling as the best way to break your mind block. It’s ALL about money isn’t it Boaty? I hope you have a lot of those paper IOUs to start the fire with to keep warm some winter soon. LMAO
Apneaman on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 6:31 pm
Boat, define norm. The Rain Bombs just keep getting bigger and bigger every year, so there can be no new normal until they level out. Approximately 7% more moisture in the atmosphere for every 1C of increased warming. If there is a limit, known or modeled, for how much moisture the atmosphere can possibly hold (I’m sure there is a ceiling) I have not heard of it, but suffice it to say the atmosphere will continue to become more loaded as the warming increases for some time. It’s a cycle. It’s what we were all warned was going to happen going back decades. Hydrologic cycle, carbon cycle – the planet is full of them.
Davy on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 6:50 pm
“Climate Change Vulnerability Mapping for Southeast Asia”
http://tinyurl.com/y7vax3o4
Go to page 6 to see a Philippines in bright red. Your day will come makat are you ready?
Apneaman on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 7:16 pm
Epic Tutorial on Horrific Hurricane Harvey
https://paulbeckwith.net/2017/08/27/epic-tutorial-on-horrific-hurricane-harvey/
Davy on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 7:28 pm
“Pivotal weather shows up to 32 inches of additional rainfall for the Houston region through Tuesday. The storm, however, may last through Thursday or later. Image source: Pivotal Weather.”
http://tinyurl.com/yb5oyl3e
Makati1 on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 8:24 pm
Davy, an 8 year old “study” made by using averages of old data, is hardly a good reference for today’s understanding of the situation. They list the same natural events as has always happened here. Typhoons, floods, landslides, etc. Nothing new there.
Now where is the US vulnerability study? Ask the Texans how safe they are. How about New Orleans? Or even NYC after Sandy? How many floods in the US so far this year? Droughts? How many weird weather events? Maybe Ap knows. I don’t track them. The US seems to be experiencing many more “events” than the Ps. You could rebuild the whole city of Metro Manila for the cost, in tens of billions, of just Harvey.
Better look at your own neighborhood. Mine is ok with me. The people here know how to deal with weather. American’s don’t.
GregT on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 8:31 pm
Boat,
“A big hurricane is just more data”
Why not call up a local news station and do an interview. I’m sure that all of those people who’s lives have just been destroyed would love to hear your take. When you do, make sure to tell everyone your E-mail, telephone number, and address.
GregT on Sun, 27th Aug 2017 8:37 pm
Davy,
What’s with your fixation on the Philippines? Have you ever been there? And why would you care?
98 on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 4:42 am
GregT:” Mak presents is as a paradise. Very funny interpretation of one of most overcrowded places with psychopathic mass murderer as a president.
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 6:09 am
“Davy, What’s with your fixation on the Philippines? Have you ever been there? And why would you care?”
Go prick someone else. You have been here long enough to know what is going on so quit being stupid. What about your fixation on your anti-Americanism?
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 6:14 am
“They list the same natural events as has always happened here. Typhoons, floods, landslides, etc. Nothing new there.”
Makat, why do you daily and redundantly do the same thing here with US issues? Basically it is a copy and paste marathon. How is that different? Maybe you are a hypocritical asswipe that wants his emotional criticism but can’t take it when he gets it back.
Makati1 on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 6:42 am
Davy, the only hypocrite ass-wipe is the guy you see in the mirror when you shave. I just like to advertise the FSA’s problems to those in denial. It is time that shit happens to America. They have dealt out enough to the rest of the world these last decades. Blow-back is a bitch! ^_^
Makati1 on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 6:53 am
“Finland’s Largest Pension Funds Dumps US Stocks Because “There Is No President In The US””
“The American Way: Mindless Pursuit”
“Trump Reportedly Slams Administration’s Globalists, Demands “Bring Me China Tariffs””
http://www.zerohedge.com/
“Negative interest rates have come to America”
“Despite steady profits, railroads have laid off thousands — and more cuts are likely on the way (US)”
“Loaded gun found in woman’s purse at Pittsburgh airport”
“NC: Airline Passenger Tried to Bring Loaded .45 Pistol Onto Charlotte Plane, TSA Says”
“Maine blueberry crop falls with disease, lack of pollination”
“Big Brother Wants Warrantless Access to Your Smartphone (US)”
“Next Stop, Recession: The Financial Meteor Storm Is Headed Our Way” (It’s already here.)
http://ricefarmer.blogspot.fr/
Slip slidin’ away! LOL
q on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 6:56 am
Houston Wasn’t Built for a Storm Like This. It won’t be next time either.
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/metropolis/2017/08/houston_wasn_t_built_to_withstand_a_storm_like_harvey.html
“One underlying cause of Houston’s suffering is that developers and town officials in Harris County, which contains Houston, have for years advocated the development of the wetlands and prairies around the city—land that had long served to absorb the rainwater that now overwhelms the region’s sewers and streams every year.”
Makati1 on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 7:00 am
98, still guzzling that government Koolaid, I see. You, like Davy, have ZERO knowledge of the PS. None. Only parroting the latest bullshit from the FSA’s MSM propaganda machine.
NYC is larger and more dangerous than Manila. The drug death rate in the US is over 60,000 per year and growing. Murders? Well I wouldn’t want to walk the streets in any US city after dark. There are also over 40,000 murders in the US, per year, and growing. Insanity is spreading in America. Not to mention obesity and all of the health problems that go with it.
Duterte is the best thing to happen to the Ps in decades. They finally got rid of the US puppet ass kissers. He is dealing with the drug problem the only way that will work, the threat of death. When his totals reach 60,000 per year, come back and we will talk.
Makati1 on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 7:03 am
q, Much of the storm area will not come back. I read that many of the home owners there had no flood insurance because they believed that it couldn’t happen. If that is true, there will be a lot of land for sale in the near future. And a much lower population. More street people.
Cloggie on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 7:03 am
Romanian border guards shoot at African invaders.
http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/fluechtlingskrise-im-news-ticker-in-italien-kommen-deutlich-weniger-fluechtlinge-an_id_7521308.html
Mysterious “Brigade 48” militia of several hundreds is operating in Libya with consent of authorities.
Invader influx Europe has reduced to a trickle of 10% as a result.
EU/Italian black op?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-libya-italy-exclusive-idUSKCN1B11XC
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 7:21 am
I don’t shave makat. Shaving is not green. I try to be greener where I can. I don’t fly to HK to shop then come on our board and brag about it. I don’t live in a “HiRISE” condo above slums I chose to ignore. I am real you are a hypocrite. I acknowledge my problems and even talk about them. I am on a flaming anti-American site to discuss American problems and where we can improve. If I didn’t acknowledge America has big time problems I would not be a doomer. I would be like you who tells others they are doomed but I am fine.
Makat, your generation is responsible for all the American sins you talk about. You need to talk about your sins. Let’s hear your past and all the bad things. Don’t think you can run away for all those bad things you have done to the world over 75 years, dumbass. You are like one of those nazi hiding away in Argentina. Is that what you learned as a kid how to be a coward and not face the reality that you have ruined a planet? LOL, swallow that hypocrite.
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 7:27 am
“Houston Wasn’t Built for a Storm Like This. It won’t be next time either.”
In the early nineties I worked in Houston some. The place has no zoning regulations I could see. It was one of those sprawling mega cities that you get lost in because one area looks like the other with tall building here and there interspersed with suburban sprawl. I doubt Houston has much of a future in a world in decline such as ours. This may be a good thing. This storm may stop the destructive sprawling growth. Maybe it will end the coastal development too. South east Texas is a mess and this storm may be a wakeup call. Yea, but I doubt it. America is addicted to sprawl and growth. It will only be global decline that stops it.
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 7:34 am
“Much of the storm area will not come back. I read that many of the home owners there had no flood insurance because they believed that it couldn’t happen. If that is true, there will be a lot of land for sale in the near future. And a much lower population. More street people.”
Makat, are you talking about manila and its big next storm or earthquake? It is truly going to be apocalyptic there when the next tragedy strikes.
Did you have a chance to see these population densities?
http://tinyurl.com/yc8ehp9q
Wow, this is a good one for you makat:
http://tinyurl.com/ya22wtqa
Makati1 on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 7:46 am
Davy, numbers are meaningless if you don’t put them into proper context. It is Western propaganda bullshit that, everywhere you go, you see articles about some population problem in another part of the world. The US consumes 25+% of the world’s resources. America is consuming more than China or India or even all of Africa. If that US consumption excess ended, the rest of the world would get a 20% increase to share. So, America can drop dead for all I, and most of the world, care.
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 7:47 am
“Oil Markets Roiled”: Goldman Calculates The Impact From Harvey’s “Devastation”
http://tinyurl.com/y8jqqfuj
“In a note released this morning, Goldman’s Damien Courvalin calculated the estimate near-term impact from the “devastating” fallout from Harvey. As Courvalin writes, data available so far point to sizably larger refining than production disruptions: as of Sunday, August 27, nearly 3 mb/d of refinery capacity was offline (16.5% of the 18.2 mb/d US capacity) vs. c.1 mb/d of crude production (11% of 9.3 mb/d current production) and 2 Bcf/d of gas production (3% of 72 Bcf/d current production). Should these levels of outages remain in place, and using past hurricanes as proxies for the impact on oil demand, Goldman estimates that the impact of Harvey on the US oil market would be to increase domestic crude availability by 1.4 mb/d while removing 615-785 kb/d of gasoline and 700 kb/d of distillate supplies. Larger refinery outages would increase these long crude and short product impacts. Should the storm continue to head East towards Houston, as forecasts project, it risks creating further refinery outages with 850 kb/d of capacity in Houston not yet reported offline.”
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 7:50 am
“America is consuming more than China or India or even all of Africa.”
Hey stupid read this:
“China Consumes Mind-Boggling Amounts of Raw Materials”
http://tinyurl.com/nb6a2aj
Makati1 on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 7:59 am
BTW Davy, Almost 10 years and no big storm has come close to Manila. For one thing, it sits across the Luzon Island and over 100 miles from the Pacific. No large Ps city is on the Pacific coast.
You should worry about your own state. It sits on the overdue Madrid Quake Fault. Some day in the not too distant future, it will let lose and devastate a huge area again.
http://dnr.mo.gov/geology/geosrv/geores/techbulletin1.htm
BTW: We get mag 5-6 quakes here regularly.
https://www.rappler.com/move-ph/issues/disasters/166417-earthquakeph-quake-metro-manila-neigboring-provinces
No one even stops whatever they are doing. Tourists get excited, but not the Filipinos. Most buildings in the city are built to take at least a 7.
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 8:01 am
Tropical Storm Harvey Discussion
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
400 AM CDT Mon Aug 28 2017
http://tinyurl.com/8shrp8o
Harvey is producing intense convection in bands over the eastern
semicircle of the circulation. This is resulting in the
continuation of very heavy rains and life-threatening flash flooding
over southeastern Texas and southwestern Louisiana. There have
been reports of 2-day rainfall totals of close to 30 inches in the
Greater Houston area. With the additional rains that are expected
over the next several days, rainfall totals could reach 50 inches in
some locations, which would be historic for the area.
The initial intensity estimate remains 35 kt, based on the
assumption that winds of this strength are occuring in some of the
stronger bands. Since Harvey is forecast to be back over water just
offshore of the coast during the next couple of days, there is some
potential for restrengthening. Significant strengthening is not
anticipated, however, due to the system’s lack of an inner core and
strong southwesterly shear associated with an upper-level trough
over Texas.
“U.S. Rainfall QPF (from WPC)”
http://tinyurl.com/y9ofxwo7
“Coastal Watches/Warnings and Forecast Cone for Storm Center”
http://tinyurl.com/ydzxauy7
Makati1 on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 8:09 am
Davy, you point one finger and 4 point back at you. You do not run your farm machinery on “green” fuel. There ain’t no such animal. You don’t walk everywhere you go. You drive. You travel to the Bahamas, or at least claimed to. Multiple times farther than Hong Kong. I live in a 34sqM condo that is rented. I will be moving to a 90sqM house on the farm when it is finished. I do not need heat or A/C, or even electric if it goes off forever. I bet you do. and I bet your house is much bigger than 90sqM. (~1,000Sq.ft.)
I am guilty of some past sins, but I never knew the truth about what was going on. Propaganda is not a new invention. Nor is brainwashing. It is 24/7/365 in America.
Now that I have the internet, I can see what is happening and I do NOT support the FSA in any way. You do. I am free. You will never be as long as you live in the land of the Fascist Police State. Perhaps that is why you try so hard to counter my facts but never can?
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 8:11 am
“BTW Davy, Almost 10 years and no big storm has come close to Manila. For one thing, it sits across the Luzon Island and over 100 miles from the Pacific. No large Ps city is on the Pacific coast.”
If that is not a head in the sand I don’t know what is. LOL You are due makat and in this ever changing world in which we live in your ass is scheduled.
“You should worry about your own state. It sits on the overdue Madrid Quake Fault. Some day in the not too distant future, it will let lose and devastate a huge area again.”
Exactly and why my dooming and prepping will come in handy for a big earthquake here. BTW, I am located in the Ozarks living on rock and far enough west to be out of the worst of the damage. That does not mean widespread devastation further east will not be a problem. See, makat, it is easy to admit personal doom. When you deny doom it just get worse. At least I am not sitting 27 stories up in the one of the densist cities in the world prone to natural disasters. There will be nowhere for you to go.
“http://dnr.mo.gov/geology/geosrv/geores/techbulletin1.htm”
I am in this zone makat, VI, so damage will be small
“No one even stops whatever they are doing. Tourists get excited, but not the Filipinos. Most buildings in the city are built to take at least a 7.”
LOL, how many is most? You sound like your board boyfriend when he embellishes his dumbass. I am sure the majoiryt of structure will come down in a 7. Much of greater manila is one big sprawling urban/suburban/slum sprawl.
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 8:24 am
“You do not run your farm machinery on “green” fuel.”
makat, I have a permaculture grazing farm and yes I use machinery but I can easily switch when the time is right. Animals graze without assistance at least here in the US.
“and I bet your house is much bigger than 90sqM. (~1,000Sq.ft.)”
Makat, my log cabin is 12’x40’. Google my comments here and I have said that now over 5 years. I live in a small cabin. I heat with wood which I enjoy. My cabin is well ventilated if I need to do without A/C
“I will be moving to a 90sqM house on the farm when it is finished.”
Makat, how long does it take to finish a little 5 acre farm with a concrete brick house and dirt floor? You are never at your farm and you are getting old so by the time you get there they may be burying you out back. Probably the pigs will dig you up. Maybe they will just throw you to the pigs. That would be a green way to go so you can attone for 75 years of being a dirty FF F*k.
Makati1 on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 8:49 am
Davy, hhahahahahahahaha… You claim to have a farm. But there is no proof. You will never switch. When the “time is right” it will be too late. you guzzle fuel like a drunk in a brewery. Typical American.
As for you “cabin” I though you had a family? More bullshit? That is really the size of a very small and old trailer. Is it? LOL
Me thinks you are pure bullshit.
BTW: The farmhouse house is started. The road (3,500′) is finished. I look forward to my move there so I can help the neighbors get their farms going better and have weekly neighborhood get-togethers. It will be a nice change.
Makati1 on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 8:52 am
BTW Davy, your “dumbness” is showing again in your latest attempts at rebuttals. You have no facts so you resort to name calling and putdowns. You really need to get off those drugs. They are killing your brain cells. LOL
Davy on Mon, 28th Aug 2017 9:17 am
How do you know how much fuel I use makat? I have never said how much. I think you are doing what you always do and that is make things up. makat, I put you down and sometimes your gang when they attack me. As for you I made a solemn promise to dog you until the day you are gone. I hope your fantasy farm materializes. You have no internet there or so you say. Being a fantasy farm who knows. Being 75 you might just die who knows with that one although you claim you will live to 100. The other option is be respectable, honest, and show manners.