[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', 'T')he left could reply.....

[evilgenius]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', 'T')he left could reply.....

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'h')ttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sinister

Which definition of sinister?

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', 'T')he left could reply.....

[evilgenius]

Yeah, but is that any excuse to go off on tangents of ad hominem and straw man attacks directed at liberals in general and Democrats in power in particular rather than discuss the topic on hand. It seems that many people on this site see it as such an opportunity that they can't pass it up. No topic that so much as mentions a top Democratic personality makes it more than a few pages here without that thread becoming calcified with anti-liberal plaque. It is like dealing with children.

[americandream]

A scientifically communal society is distinguished by the followimg:

No religion
No family
No POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
No charity
Firm discipline
No migration nor the desire to migrate
Order
Greater social good
The absence of mindless trash both cluttering up our lives as well as the environment
High culture
A human achieving their highest potential as a sentient being.
Harmony between cultural communities and regions
Political activism within ones community
Sustainable socio-economy

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'A') scientifically communal society is distinguished by the followimg: No religion, No family, No POLITICAL CORRECTNESS --snip--Political activism within ones community
Sustainable socio-economy

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '[')img]http://www.affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/Huxley_brave_new_world_small.jpg[/img]

[americandream]

The choice ultimately is either:

a Brave New World of filth, depravity, clamouring boatloads of ragged refugees, endless wars for resources, a toilet of a planet, masses stupid beyond belief, no order, incessant noise and clamouring and the lowest levels of cultural achievement, or

High human society with equity, order and sustainability and where civilisation uplifts man.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')he choice ultimately is either: a Brave New World of filth, depravity, clamouring boatloads of ragged refugees, endless wars for resources, a toilet of a planet, masses stupid beyond belief, no order, incessant noise and clamouring and the lowest levels of cultural achievement, or High human society with equity, order and sustainability and where civilisation uplifts man.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'S')o if you and your like-minded colleagues take over the world, you promise to be beneficent rulers? You will save the planet and bring us all a future with the world filled with all the joy, wisdom, culture, civilization, and other wonderful things you promise?

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'U')mm..look at the choices you give us? Ignorance on steriods, depravity on viagra, and dishonesty on warp drive.

[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'A') scientifically communal society is distinguished by the followimg:

No religion
No family
No POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
No charity
Firm discipline
No migration nor the desire to migrate
Order
Greater social good
The absence of mindless trash both cluttering up our lives as well as the environment
High culture
A human achieving their highest potential as a sentient being.
Harmony between cultural communities and regions
Political activism within ones community
Sustainable socio-economy

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'U')mm.. any of that is better than digging frozen clay 12 hours a day for a small piece of a mouldy bread You seemed to prefer it yourself when you chose to run to NZ instead of Cuba or North Corea.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;All our science is just a cookery book, with an orthodox theory of cooking that nobody's allowed to question, and a list of recipes that mustn't be added to except by special permission from the head cook."

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '.').look at the choices you give us?...

[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I')ld rather my recipe than your half baked one

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'H')ahaha.....I never gave you any choices---you are having another fantasy and veering into another "strawman" argument.
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You should
(1) read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley---you might find it interesting as his famous dystopia is similar to the utopia you are are pushing.
(2) Learn what a "strawman argument" is and why your repeated use of them makes you look as though you don't fully comprehend what is being discussed.
(3) Be willing to discuss the interesting issues that you yourself raise rather then veering off into repeated "strawman" arguments that are based on your projections and fantasies rather then what has actually been posted as part of the discussion. Cheers!

[evilgenius]

Now, Plantagenet, don't be a deliberate ignoramus. All arguments have subtext(s). As such accepting your point of view requires a statement of choices to be accepted as well. It is perfectly reasonable. You can choose to see a logical fallacy if you must, but you will then miss the point. AmericanDream is doing well to try and understand you. Why not reciprocate? Say why you think that range of choices doesn't apply.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '[')So you think digging dirt is far worse than the out of control commodification of humanity as evidenced by widespread prostitution and pedophilia in the unregulated world of global capital?