[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')with the "primitivist" stuff again. No matter how many times I tell you I'm not a primitivist and never have been, you keep using that word.

[nobodypanic]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nobodypanic', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodigami', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nobodypanic', 't')he big mistake was agriculture. it was all downhill from there.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')
I was not attempting to define your beliefs there.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'f')or one, because we've had lots of examples of hunter-gatherers and subsistence tribes during recorded history. we know how they fought, behaved etc.from direct observation. in short, no, our notions about these cultures aren't limited to the fossil/archaeological record.

i don't know why you bring neanderthals into this. i mean, there are real differences between them and ancient humans that makes using them to reason from analogy w/respect to humans rather fraught with pitfalls, especially if we aren't very careful.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')The things that we do that seem to be holdovers from peacocks, things that most of us have no control over because it's hardwired into our brains and our hormonal chemistry. And we never bother to stop and analyze ourselves. Is this who we want to be? We just run on autopilot, living in the moment. I guess that's a nerd's way of looking at the world, to wish for us all to evolve into Trek-like energy beings or singularitarianists who want to just digitize themselves into a virtual grid.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')I think Star Trek is keen.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'I') was more keen on Star Trek in the past, but pretty much agree with the "hopeless escapist fantasy" bit.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'I') was more keen on Star Trek in the past, but pretty much agree with the "hopeless escapist fantasy" bit.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'I') was more keen on Star Trek in the past, but pretty much agree with the "hopeless escapist fantasy" bit.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')How about more like Monterey Pop?

More this....

Instead of this......

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')How about more like Monterey Pop?

More this....

Instead of this......

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')Mad Max movies are cool too, and we MIGHT end up basing a society on it.

[POAlex]

When we listened to the serpent instead of our Creator.

Alex

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', 'W')hen we listened to the serpent instead of our Creator.

Alex

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', 'W')hen we listened to the serpent instead of our Creator.

Alex

[Aimrehtopyh]

I agree with the general direction this thread is going. Did anyone mention that modern consumerism works mainly because of a peculiar brain chemistry reaction that dates back to our hunter-gatherer days?

Not to change the subject, but I was looking up Galinstan and found this:
"Amount of atmospheric mercury deposited at Wyoming's Upper Fremont Glacier over the last 270 years."

http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia ... y-(element)

They say that even low level exposure to mercury can have a serious effect on cognitive function if you're exposed to it during critical phases of brain development.

If people really are getting stupider (as I suspect) I'd like to compare that data to the mercury chart.

That picture of the redneck with his trucknutz should really be proof enough for anybody though.

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', 'W')hen we listened to the serpent instead of our Creator.

Alex