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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby americandream » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 17:33:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'J')ust wait until the folks with the large SUV are out of gas...and you get to mock them...and enjoy an MRE while their hungry children watch....and the Glock 22 on your hip deters them from doing anything but begging...and you sneer and tell them it's going to get worse.

Then smile smugly and say "I told you so....trucker."

Toss the empty MRE pouch to them as a final gesture of contempt.

8)

Now that's good, clean fun!


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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby americandream » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 17:36:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FairMaiden', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')But the peak oil cause is lost.


I'm not convinced of that yet. We have had MANY cities in our area banding together to deal with "climate change" and "peak oil." And YES, they are using the term peak oil. They are spreading out information entitled, "what your cities is doing about peak oil and what you can do."

So in my neck of the woods, we are beyond the debate and moving towards action. Of course, it may be too late. I'm not sure of that - yet. I do believe we are past the point of "painless transition" but a painful transition is not total collapse/devastation. We'll see.


A few cities in one country on a planet the size of the earth do not maketh a remedy to a global problem.
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby timbo » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 17:39:56

Hey Jack nice of you to withhold the pistol whipping 8)
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby gnm » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 17:40:56

Yeah take that you MSM deniers, whopee we're right up yours yeehaa!, we're right!

8O

:-x Awwww CRAP We're right! :(

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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby Concerned » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 17:43:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'Y')ea, but, not nearly as many holes have been drilled worldwide as in the U…

I mean, on an inflation adjusted bas…

What about abioti…

We’ll just …

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Saudi's will pump 15million BBL per day.

On a more serious note this is one issue where it's really going to suck to be right.
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby timbo » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 17:44:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FairMaiden', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')But the peak oil cause is lost.


I'm not convinced of that yet. We have had MANY cities in our area banding together to deal with "climate change" and "peak oil." And YES, they are using the term peak oil. They are spreading out information entitled, "what your cities is doing about peak oil and what you can do."

So in my neck of the woods, we are beyond the debate and moving towards action. Of course, it may be too late. I'm not sure of that - yet. I do believe we are past the point of "painless transition" but a painful transition is not total collapse/devastation. We'll see.


Its that glow in the dark look from the nuclear fallout that worries me.
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby Etalon » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 17:48:43

as a few people have pointed out, on balance, I dont think there is that much to cheer about.
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby Concerned » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 17:52:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'I')n Yo Face!

Nawwww...it's their denial that's allowed me to prep all these years...and at low cost as well. :)


LOL absoloutely true :)

Im really hoping for a good plateau to at least 2012. Should help alot.
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby shortonoil » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 17:53:39

Aaron said:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')o Yergin, Lynch the USGS, CERA & all you other peak deniers out there.


These moronic, self serving, imbeciles are the ones who are primarily responsible for us loosing 30 years in which we could have been preparing for this disaster. They should be tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail with a corn cob stuffed up their ass. Then we can say “I told you so, you idiots”!

But, is there any chance that we could learn something from all of this; I doubt it!
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby gnm » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 17:56:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timbo', 'H')ey Jack nice of you to withhold the pistol whipping 8)


Nah he just left that out because it presents the gun too close to the victim. Hes more of a boot in the face kind of guy... While they are groveling.... 8O

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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby Concerned » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 18:00:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aflurry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '
')In you're face losers.


In you are face losers?


What are you doing after lunch splitting the atom?

Thankfully the human brain is an amazing thing and can decipher you're to mean your, a robot on the other hand "emergency emergency..."
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby FairMaiden » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 18:09:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')A few cities in one country on a planet the size of the earth do not maketh a remedy to a global problem.


True, but just bc the USA and Britain haven't wised up doesn't mean we are completely screwed either. You are not even close to the majority of the "globe". The third world countries are not going to be majorly affected by a lack of oil - they barely use any. We have community gardens here, we have communities that are completely OFF the grid (I'm talking in the thousands). The gov't pays you $5K to retrofit your house with solar heating/solar water. We use recycled material for roofs. Mexico is following suit. We have "sister cities" there that are even ahead of us. And European countries are reducing their energy consumption as well.

Australia

Those are just things I know about and I'm too lazy to research and compile a list. My point: governments and people are acting. We are no longer talking about it. It *may* be too late. I'm not so sure we've proven that here. I don't think we know where that point is...
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 18:17:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '
')Actually, Unknown, I am quite a lot more hateful than my post indicates. I just tone it down when I put things in writing.


Whatever it takes for you to survive this dude... what ever it takes.
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby strider3700 » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 19:18:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FairMaiden', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')But the peak oil cause is lost.


I'm not convinced of that yet. We have had MANY cities in our area banding together to deal with "climate change" and "peak oil." And YES, they are using the term peak oil. They are spreading out information entitled, "what your cities is doing about peak oil and what you can do."

So in my neck of the woods, we are beyond the debate and moving towards action. Of course, it may be too late. I'm not sure of that - yet. I do believe we are past the point of "painless transition" but a painful transition is not total collapse/devastation. We'll see.


I see you live in Vancouver. I'll believe they are attempting to deal with the issue the second they decide against twinning the port man bridge cancel the entire gateway project except the bicycle lanes and stop expanding the sea to sky highway to make access easier for the Olympics.

You're in complete denial if you think any of these things will actually happen before the collapse is already here. We'll happily go way in to deficit just to keep up appearances before 2010. After that let it melt down like everywere else.
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby Judgie » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 20:13:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FairMaiden', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')A few cities in one country on a planet the size of the earth do not maketh a remedy to a global problem.


True, but just bc the USA and Britain haven't wised up doesn't mean we are completely screwed either. You are not even close to the majority of the "globe". The third world countries are not going to be majorly affected by a lack of oil - they barely use any. We have community gardens here, we have communities that are completely OFF the grid (I'm talking in the thousands). The gov't pays you $5K to retrofit your house with solar heating/solar water. We use recycled material for roofs. Mexico is following suit. We have "sister cities" there that are even ahead of us. And European countries are reducing their energy consumption as well.

Australia

Those are just things I know about and I'm too lazy to research and compile a list. My point: governments and people are acting. We are no longer talking about it. It *may* be too late. I'm not so sure we've proven that here. I don't think we know where that point is...


Do not use Australia as an example oh Fairmaiden!

What Little Johny Howard and his band of Merry Jackasses say, and what they do are two very different things, as any Australian with half a brain or more has learned. He'll be even worse if he magically wins the upcoming election (again). That doesn't take much, just wave the interest rates and "we're the best party for the economy" flags.
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby FairMaiden » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 20:23:24

Sigh, I'm not saying we are there. I actually work with the LRC issue so I know all about Gateway and its implications.

BUT "all is lost" sounds the same as "there is no problem, technology will save us." to me.

Gimme a break! People see what they want to see. I learned that long ago. It seems like alot of ppl here want to see total and mass destruction. Yes, we need population reduction. Yes, we are living the good life on a finite resource. How we adjust and how it plays out is not determined yet. Mother nature could step in and take some choices away from us (the least likely possibility, but still a possibility).

No, Australia is doing nothing. I agree. But that was a GOOD report about what they SHOULD be doing by a government official. And he's trying to educate/motivate the public.

"Never underestimate the power of a group of individuals to affect change. Indeed its the only that thing that ever has."

As I stated before, its gotta hurt. Its going to hurt. That doesn't mean "its a lost cause"...we just sound so #%^%# harsh on here all the time...
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby MattSavinar » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 20:43:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', ' ')

They should be tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail with a corn cob stuffed up their ass.



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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby yesplease » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 21:20:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '.')..
Toss the empty MRE pouch to them as a final gesture of contempt.
If things are that bad, you'll be deader than a doornail long before you can get a chance to toss anything at anyone. Even if most don't have food, with over 200 million private firearms, and a ton more public, there'll be someone to put two in your chest and one between your eyes if you do anything like that. :-D
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Re: We told you so...

Unread postby Pops » Thu 25 Oct 2007, 21:36:50

As they say:
If you can’t run with the big dogs; sit on the porch and yap.

Translation:
Either get up and do something, or sit there and tap.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves -- in their separate, and individual capacities.
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