[TheAntiDoomer]

My guess is 230 mgp equivalent for the volt, we'll find out on tuesday.

http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty ... peculation

General Motors' mysterious 230 logo $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's fairly rare in these days of digital distribution that a secret stays secret until it's intended to be told, but General Motors appears to be doing a bang-up job with its mysterious '230' campaign. Speculation across the web on the meaning of the 230 number in the graphic - which uses a smiling power outlet in place of the zero - has spiked ahead of the August 11th press conference that's expected to reveal its meaning to the world.

[Plantagenet]

I'll guess that GM 230 refers to an additional 230 billion dollar subsidy from the taxpayer that GM will be requesting to keep operating and begin manufacturing the Volt.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'I')'ll guess that GM 230 refers to an additional 230 billion dollar subsidy from the taxpayer that GM will be requesting to keep operating and begin manufacturing the Volt.

[Maddog78]

230 miles before it breaks down.

[TheDude]

They're going to collaborate with GE to install new electrical outlets in your house.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheAntiDoomer', 'M')y guess is 230 mgp

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'j')esus you are being an Expletive deleted. you know that? Oh i'm not the first one who thought it was mpg, jeez pstarr thanks I didn't realize that, thank for the help /sarcasm. buzz off

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheAntiDoomer', 'j')esus you are being an Expletive deleted. you know that? Oh i'm not the first one who thought it was mpg, jeez pstarr thanks I didn't realize that, thank for the help /sarcasm. buzz off
its sad noone can have a decent conversation around here without a topic being dragged into the dirt....oh well.

[vision-master]

EPA rated - 230mpg at 20 mph, going downhill, with a tailwind.

[lowem]

A range of GM electric vehicles with 230-mile range?

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lowem', 'A') range of GM electric vehicles with 230-mile range?

[TheAntiDoomer]

Good thinking Loewm and timmac, guess we will find out for sure on Tuesday.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lowem', 'A') range of GM electric vehicles with 230-mile range?

[Plantagenet]

How do you determine the mpg or an electric car?

A post on the GM website suggested the mpg of an EREV should be calculated by driving the car starting with a full battery until it reaches charge-sustaining mode, and then drive it a bit more using gas. So, the first 40 miles use only battery power and are electric, and the car drives 11 more miles using gas, and If the Volt gets 50 MPG using gas, and it uses .22 gallons of gas for that 11 miles then it would go total of 51 miles/.22 gallons = 231.8 MPG.

Its a little bit like calculating gas mileage by having a car coast downhill for 40 miles before using the gas engine (i.e. it assumes the inital 40 miles run on battery charge is free), but who expects GM to be completely honest in its advertising anyway....


Wow....230 mpg......that's groovy!

[timmac]

A good electric car should go at least 120 miles before recharge, that is city driving of coarse, you can build a good electric kit car in a couple of small compact cars/trucks that can get up to 100+ before recharge with lead acid batteries so I would hope at least 150 miles or more with the Chevy Volt.

I am thinking maybe the 230 means 190 miles before gas engine kicks in than 1 gal will take you up to a total of 230 miles, combination of both electric and gas, that would be a great sale pitch 230 mpg on 1st gal only, than what 40 mpg after that ?.

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'A') good electric car should go at least 120 miles before recharge, that is city driving of coarse, you can build a good electric kit car in a couple of small compact cars/trucks that can get up to 100+ before recharge with lead acid batteries so I would hope at least 150 miles or more with the Chevy Volt.

I am thinking maybe the 230 means 190 miles before gas engine kicks in than 1 gal will take you up to a total of 230 miles, combination of both electric and gas, that would be a great sale pitch 230 mpg on 1st gal only, than what 40 mpg after that ?.

[timmac]

Pstarr wrote >>There are no mass-produced electric cars with air conditioners, air bags, power steering, electric windshield wipers, heaters, AVS, suitable trunks storage, limited slip differential drive trains, self-diagnosis, etc.



Is not the GM Volt & Nissan Leaf going to have most of these things you mentioned above ??

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'P')starr wrote >>There are no mass-produced electric cars with air conditioners, air bags, power steering, electric windshield wipers, heaters, AVS, suitable trunks storage, limited slip differential drive trains, self-diagnosis, etc.



Is not the Volt going to have most of these things you mentioned above ??