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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby mattduke » Sun 12 Jun 2011, 20:40:35

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Dr. David Mandy: Special Needs Son Harassed by TSA at Detroit Metropolitan Airport
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Mandy family says they were on their way to the happiest place on earth(Disney), but had to go through hell to get there. "I realize they're trying to keep people safe, but come on, does he look like a terrorist?" said Dr. David Mandy.

The family was going through security when two TSA agents singled Drew Mandy out for a special pat down. Drew is severely mentally disabled. He's 29, but his parents said he has the mental capacity of a two-year-old, which made the experience that followed at metro Detroit's McNamera Terminal that much harder to deal with.

"You have got to be kidding me. I honestly felt that those two agents did not know what they were doing," Mandy told us.

Dr. Mandy claimed they asked Drew to place his feet on the yellow shoe line, something he didn't understand. They proceeded to pat his pants down, questioning the padding which was his adult diapers. When the agents asked Drew to take his hand and rub the front and back of his pants so they could swab it for explosives, his dad stepped in and tried to explain that Drew was mentally challenged.

"They said, 'Please, sir, we know what we're doing,'" Mandy said.

The TSA agents saw Drew holding a six-inch plastic hammer.

"My son carries his ball and his hammer for security. He goes everywhere with (them)," said Mandy.

The TSA it seems saw the toy as a weapon. "He took the hammer and he tapped the wall. 'See, it's hard. It could be used as a weapon,'" Mandy explained. "So, Drew's also holding the ball, and I said, 'Well, how about the ball?' He (said), 'Oh, he can keep that."

Dr. Mandy was told he would need to have the toy shipped if he wanted to keep it, a process which caused them to almost miss their plane, so he pitched it. "It just killed me to have to throw it away because he's been carrying this like for 20 years," Mandy said.

Heartless a**holes! The punchline?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he TSA took away one toy hammer, but they were still able to take another toy hammer on board the airplane. How did that happen?
Drew's mother, always prepared, had another one in her backpack and that already passed through security with no problem.

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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby mattduke » Fri 17 Jun 2011, 18:26:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')re you prepared to be yet again disappointed in and freaked out by the incompetence of TSA agents? Chicagoan Paul Kahan, a James Beard award winning chef and partner at the awesome restaurants Avec, Blackbird, Big Star and The Publican, managed to slip four of his massive chef knives through security at Chicago-O'Hare Airport. What happened then? Well, he took his flight like normal with four giant knives at easy reach.

Those chef knives would have come in handy on 9/11.
http://www.jaunted.com/story/2011/6/16/ ... A+Security
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby mattduke » Sat 25 Jun 2011, 23:06:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')ean Weber of Destin filed a complaint with the Department of Homeland Security after her 95-year-old mother was detained and extensively searched last Saturday while trying to board a plane to fly to Michigan to be with family members during the final stages of her battle with leukemia.

Her mother, who was in a wheelchair, was asked to remove an adult diaper in order to complete a pat-down search.

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/mother ... adult.html
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby mattduke » Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:36:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;TSA employees at Logan International Airport believe they have identified a cancer cluster in their ranks, according to documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act and released by the Electronic Privacy Information Center. They have requested dosimetry to counter 'TSA's improperly non-monitored radiation threat.' So far, at least, they have not received it. The documents also reveal a paper from Johns Hopkins that essentially questions whether it is even safe to stand near an operating scanner, let alone inside one. Also, the National Institute of Standards and Technology says that the Dept. of Homeland Security 'mischaracterized' their work by telling USA Today that NIST affirmed the safety of the scanners when in fact NIST does not do product safety testing and never tested a scanner for safety."

Even I wouldn't wish radiation-scanner-induced cancer upon TSA "security experts".
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby mattduke » Sat 09 Jul 2011, 10:24:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') former Transportation Security Administration employee was charged with two counts of grand theft for allegedly stealing electronics from luggage, authorities in Florida said Thursday.

Over the past six months, Santiago-Serrano told authorities he stole $50,000 worth of computers, GPS devices and other electronics from luggage he screened, took pictures of them to post for sale online and sold the items often by the time his shift ended.

The daily TSA theft story. Why does TSA hire so many thieves?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/07/07/fl ... yee.theft/
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby mattduke » Sat 09 Jul 2011, 10:33:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')an Flies with Someone Else's Ticket and No Legal ID

Enough said.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... 5584.story
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Re: TSA Follies

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Woman Arrested for Groping TSA Agent at Phoenix Airport
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') Colorado woman was arrested Thursday after she groped a female TSA agent at Sky Harbor International Airport in Phoenix, MyFoxPhoenix.com reports.

The charge is sexual assault.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/16/wo ... z1SOLdgP3X
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Re: TSA Follies

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Re: TSA Follies

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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sun 24 Jul 2011, 01:41:04

This guy doesn't fit our terrorist profiles.
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 25 Jul 2011, 20:01:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', 'T')his guy doesn't fit our terrorist profiles.
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Yeah, but why would fascist groups like the Tea Partiers or the TSA care about another fascist attacking liberals?
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby mattduke » Mon 25 Jul 2011, 22:29:51

TSA Soaks Bladder Cancer Survivor With His Own Urine… Again
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Thomas Sawyer is already quite familiar with TSA patdowns, seeing as they already spilled urine on him last November. Once should be enough, right? Nope. The exact same thing happened again. What? For old time's sake?

Sawyer was travelling from Detroit Metro Airport to Orlando on July 14th when he had to relive this nightmare. The same trip. The same roughness. The same ruptured urostomy bag. The same humiliation.

What is it with TSA and urostomy bags?
http://gizmodo.com/5824519/tsa-soaks-bl ... rine-again
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby mattduke » Thu 28 Jul 2011, 22:19:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')n off-duty TSA agent is accused of using his status as a federal employee to intimidate a driver in Connecticut, where police said the man waved his badge at a woman for driving too slowly.

It is my understanding that police hold TSA goons in disdain.
http://www.kctv5.com/story/15161694/off ... timidation
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby mattduke » Mon 01 Aug 2011, 21:23:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')n allegedly sticky-fingered screener for the Transportation Security Administration is being investigated after $100 went missing from a 16-year-old honor student's gym bag before he boarded a July 21 flight at JFK Airport, The Post has learned.

Please keep a close eye on TSA to prevent other crimes in addition to violation of the 4th amendment.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/quee ... z1TpWhD2aJ
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby mattduke » Sun 07 Aug 2011, 15:10:19

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his transgendered former airport screener considers herself a woman, she has long, highlighted hair and pops hormones to look like a lady.

Yet Ashley Yang was ordered by her former bosses at the Transportation Security Administration to pat down male passengers, pin her locks in a bun, dress like a man and use the men's restroom. When she objected, she was fired, according to a termination letter.

Who wants a patdown from Ashley?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z1UN6flcRE
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby AgentR11 » Mon 08 Aug 2011, 21:03:19

You do not have a right to fly on someone else's airplane.
The owners of the airplanes will let you on their airplanes, if you let TSA molest you.
If you do not like the price, you can buy your own airplane, or you can choose to not fly.

Personally, I've decided that flying is way overrated, and no where near worth the price in dignity that they charge.
Thus neither I, nor my family fly anymore. Problem solved.
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sun 25 Dec 2011, 01:01:34

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s you stand in endless lines this holiday season, here’s a comforting thought: all those security measures accomplish nothing, at enormous cost. That’s the conclusion of Charles C. Mann, who put the T.S.A. to the test with the help of one of America’s top security experts.
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“The only useful airport security measures since 9/11,” he says, “were locking and reinforcing the cockpit doors, so terrorists can’t break in, positive baggage matching”—ensuring that people can’t put luggage on planes, and then not board them —“and teaching the passengers to fight back. The rest is security theater.”
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The day before, I had downloaded an image of a boarding pass from the Delta Web site, copied and pasted the letters with Photoshop, and printed the results with a laser printer. I am not a photo-doctoring expert, so the work took me nearly an hour. The T.S.A. agent waved me through without a word.
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Taking off your shoes is next to useless. “It’s like saying, Last time the terrorists wore red shirts, so now we’re going to ban red shirts,” Schneier says.
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As I waited at security with my fake boarding pass, a T.S.A. agent had darted out and swabbed my hands with a damp, chemically impregnated cloth: a test for explosives. Schneier said, “Apparently the idea is that al-Qaeda has never heard of latex gloves and wiping down with alcohol.”
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After a public outcry, T.S.A. officers began waving through medical supplies that happen to be liquid, including bottles of saline solution. “You fill one of them up with liquid explosive,” Schneier said, “then get a shrink-wrap gun and seal it. The T.S.A. doesn’t open shrink-wrapped packages.”
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The security bottlenecks are regularly bypassed by large numbers of people—airport workers, concession-stand employees, airline personnel, and T.S.A. agents themselves (though in 2008 the T.S.A. launched an employee-screening pilot study at seven airports). “Almost all of those jobs are crappy, low-paid jobs,” Schneier says. “They have high turnover. If you’re a serious plotter, don’t you think you could get one of those jobs?”
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“We’re spending billions upon billions of dollars doing this—and it is almost entirely pointless. Not only is it not done right, but even if it was done right it would be the wrong thing to do.”
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby rangerone314 » Sun 25 Dec 2011, 07:38:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'Y')ou do not have a right to fly on someone else's airplane.
The owners of the airplanes will let you on their airplanes, if you let TSA molest you.
If you do not like the price, you can buy your own airplane, or you can choose to not fly.

Personally, I've decided that flying is way overrated, and no where near worth the price in dignity that they charge.
Thus neither I, nor my family fly anymore. Problem solved.

Unfortunately this is like the problem with spam. You can choose not to respond to spam, but it will continue because other people will. Similarly, lack of resistance to TSA in airports will result eventually in same s**t being done at shopping malls or anywhere else.
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sun 25 Dec 2011, 09:34:37

I do understand your point ranger, its just that philosophically, I can't get passed the *FACT* that those airplanes are private property. And the owners of that property have decided that the admission fee is a thorough groping. Kinda like walking into a nudie bar and being surprised at seeing nekkid girls; airports are now legally sanctioned places for pedophiles to grope kids, and for regular perverts to grope adults.

If you want to fly, buy your own airplane and take off and land from your own airstrip(s).

This doesn't imply that I wouldn't celebrate if they disbanded the TSA; but till then, if the cities and airliners wish to continue to operate adult clubs with a trivial prize for the molestees; and force is not used to coerce its victims participants into entering those clubs; its not really my business to say that they shouldn't be allowed to do so.

I think they could do with some more appropriate signage perhaps...
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Re: TSA Follies

Unread postby Loki » Sun 25 Dec 2011, 17:18:08

Agent, private property rights have absolutely nothing to do with this. The vast majority of TSA-related 4th Amendment violations occur on public property. These violations are being conducted by agents of the federal government. A federal agency is making the rules about how much their employees are allowed to grope passerbys, and how much of your naked body they are allowed to gawk at. This is not about what the airlines want or do not want, these policies are driven entirely by the federal government.

I choose not to fly for several reasons, but having my 4th Amendment rights systematically violated on public property is the kicker that keeps me off planes.
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