[Dan the Dieoff Survivor]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Permanently_Baffled', 'F')FS Matt if you cannot handle a bunch of amateur debaters like us , how the hell you gonna convince the big boys?

I think your work thus far has been comendable , the only way you are going to further your cause(and your goole rating :D ) is to continue on webbys like this !!

Good luck and goodbye,

PB

[Solar Power Playa-Playa]

I think Matt felt like he had found a super cool bar. Sure there are barfights on occassion but that's to be expected considering the neighborhood the place is in.

But now everynight he walks in the door just to have a drink there's somebody new who wants to start a fight over stupid shiat.

So perhaps he will adopt a disguise. Simple hat and moustache on some days. Full blown drag on others. . .

Solar Power Playa-Playa

[Whitecrab]

No one has said this, so as well as being useful, I'd like to add I found your posts humourous at times.

It's a shame you could not just quote personal attacks, add "this is a personal attack and is irrelevant," and leave it at that. Sounds like a timesaver to me.

Best of luck with your site. It does read too much like a sales pitch for my taste, but your site and your book is the best thing to handoff to an otherwise apathetic friend or family member, and your effort staying on top of everything is phenomenal. Cheers.

[Soft_Landing]

Matt, I think this is a very bright move on your part, but I am sorry to see you go. I think if you look back, you just might find that Jay has played you - and that you have let him. Like a wife in a destructive relationship, it's hard to leave, but I think you are taking the right step.

Don't forget the next step! Learn from all this. Seriously. You have so much to offer and to give. If you let yourself be played by people like Jay, who will always pop up as you journey forward, it will very much limit what you might achieve.

You've put more on the line here than anybody - for that you have my respect. Although Jay has drawn you into damaging your own respectability at times, I for one don't hold it against you - I know how hard it can be to walk away.

I wish you the best of luck, and I very much hope that when you pop back here, you are very amused by the "You're Matt Aren't You" and "Matt Savinar Uncovered" accusations that will as surely as summarily be directed at every newly registered poster.

Farewell.

[azreal60]

As for the poorly moderated accusation, I started to respond yesterday and then had my work computer connection take a dump on me.

There are very simple steps that anyone can take if they wish to avoid spurious and personal attacks. One, ignore it for a day or so until a mod gets to it. Two, if it is not seen in a day, send a private message via the site to anyone of the active mods. Three, if something is moved to the open forum or the hall of flames, duh duh dum( drumroll) don't read it. Its that simple.

I am sorry you felt like you where being attacked, but frankly, the only posts i saw that i did not deal with where you where attacked where in the hall of flames or the open forum. If you want more moderation, it might help to not visit the area's that say (will not be moderated).

[JayHMorrison]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('big_rc', ' ')If you cannot put up with the little sniping comments made on this site, then you better shut down your operation pretty quickly and step away from the limelight in order to protect your mental well being.

[trespam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JayHMorrison', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('big_rc', ' ')If you cannot put up with the little sniping comments made on this site, then you better shut down your operation pretty quickly and step away from the limelight in order to protect your mental well being.

[WebHubbleTelescope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JayHMorrison', ' ')
That is likely the best advice anyone could give Matt. If the critique posed on this website was too tough, imagine what might come in a real medium from experts with real credentials.

[EnviroEngr]

An inspired moment, WebHubbleTelescope. Nicely penned. It's ready for Garrison Keillor's A Prairie Home Companion segment on English Majors. Excellent wit.

The opposite side sees Smith telling Morpheus: "... and I found out that humans aren't really mammals. Mammals develop an equilibrium with their environment, but you humans do not..."

The other way to look at this is to think of the Earth as a repository of evolutionary information. Even if She only 'woke up' at the end of the Precambrian period, She knows things like which factors tempered our body morphology and why our neurology works like it does. She also knows things like why we project spirit visions outwards and what our bodies are liable to regardless what little noises we make or inner experiences we have. It seems to never occur to us to ask the very wide, long view questions perhaps mostly because other stories of our origins, place and meaning here are more palatable to our fragile minds than that we were forged up from Mineral, Plant and Animal alike. No doubt we reason that we're far too advanced in function at this point in History to have ever "developed that way." We were put here by some deity or seeded by distant travelers - the disastrous implication being, we would have no idea how to work in harmony with this planet. The observation that we seem to be of a progression not at all like any other life around us makes for some very seductive leaps of faith as any critical thinker might note. The pivot of our fearfully arrogant sense of differentness rests squarely on our neither being able to remember from whence we came nor being able to see or understand our condition AS IT IS in the present moment. And with such short mayfly lives, we don't have enough perspective to settle on the most likely explanation of our point of origin or this seemingly discontinuous and non-linear development and subsequent appearance of the faculty of mentition.

The way much of the interaction here proceeds is suggestive (maybe even evidence) of how far we've overshot our creation of ourselves in our virtual holographic mental medium of neuro-electrical brainstorms. So much so, we have nearly no sense of ourselves as delicate biological animals liable to all manner of corruption, decay and dysfunction. Ineluctably, in my opinion, what the Earth thinks of us, in this regard, is more 'real' than what we think of ourselves. Standing-wave electrical patterns persisting among neurons in gray matter are undoubtedly much shorter lived and far more virtual than mountains, trees and clans of naturally interacting animals. The many questions begged about human beings in the course of their part of History on the Earth in this context then become the starting point of our understanding how to reintegrate back into the Natural World. Better still to remember what we are apart from our ideas, dreams and imaginations. When we leave this world, our trance-inducing thought constructions and imaginary realities go with us. All the Earth sees is yet another (mass) departure of material creatures of some particular configuration - room for new forms.

[WebHubbleTelescope]

EnviroEngr:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hen we leave this world, our trance-inducing thought constructions and imaginary realities go with us.

[TheHelium3Hussie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('trespam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JayHMorrison', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('big_rc', ' ')If you cannot put up with the little sniping comments made on this site, then you better shut down your operation pretty quickly and step away from the limelight in order to protect your mental well being.

[Yamaha_R6]

Oh no... If Matt leaves I might have to find a new hobby. What makes this site great is debating outcomes. DONT GO.

[WebHubbleTelescope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yamaha_R6', 'O')h no... If Matt leaves I might have to find a new hobby. What makes this site great is debating outcomes. DONT GO.

[Terran]

Matt I'm sorry to see you go, we're all going to miss you. I remember I first came upon your site, at first glance I was scared s*itless. But upon farther reseach I found what I could do about it. I hope you live through the die-off.
A few people over here and I are starting a peak oil community, your welcomed to join us, remember we're from the bay area.

[Guest]

I am fairly new to this site, but it has become an important resource for me. It has great value in developing world awareness of this critically important issue. I tend to ignore the irrelevant personal jabs because, among other reasons, this issue is essentially a scientific and social phenomenon. I like to stick to the facts; as for theories, to debate them to gain a better understanding of it all. I believe we are here on this site because we care, and want to make a difference. Among the whole world, we refuse to be flung off into the Olduvai Gorge.

From my viewpoint, however, this thread and a relatively few others seem like a grade school playground. Someone saying they are taking their ball and going home will not work: we cannot escape this issue unless we figure out a way to leave the planet. A bit telling about the nature of our species, really. When some get into a tiff like this, it does the world a disservice. This issue is far too crucial for this. Many new people like me are finding this site for the first time, and all who truly believe this is the biggest test facing humanity since the dawn of "civilization," as I now do, should act with upmost respect, clarity, and conviction. Giving others reasons to doubt the character (or bias or mental status) of who is saying it, unfortunately gives them reasons to doubt the truth of what they are saying. Be above reproach, and no one can deny you. It will force them to focus on what you are saying and re-examine their own ideas, if they do not agree with you. Remember most people just lurk on this site, and never post.

I look at dealing with people as a process of leading them, being an actor, instead of a re-actor. If we continue in our actions with true conviction, despite what they do or say, it strengthens their respect of our character and ideas, and hopefully, may lead to change. Dr. Martin Luther King understood this. Change happened, but not without sacrifice. We should hope to be as successful as he was in leading for change. If we are to be saved, this has to be a movement like none other, and we have to be clear: warning of the event will do little. A groundswell movement, from all aspects of the world, is what's needed. Everyone must be made aware, and embark upon solutions. Otherwise, the only thing we may be able to do is say: "I told you so!" Is that what we truly want? No, we want a better world. We must think about what it will take to make it so. Is it possible? Undoutedly. Probable? Unfortunately, no. But we must fight the odds, race against time, and rage, rage at the dying of the light.

Dr.'s Campbell, Deffeyes, Simmons, Bahktiari, Aleklett, Laherrere, and yes, Savinor, and the so many others working so hard to propel public awareness is truly a blessing. We only get one shot at this, and we better not blow it.

My two cents.

[bart]

Hi Matt,
As a new poster, I am not familiar with the frustrations you've encountered on the Peak Oil site. However, I've read quite a bit on your site and find it helpful and interesting, though much more pessimistic than I tend to be.

I think you are wise to disengage from a bad situation. It doesn't really matter who is to blame... the reality apparently is that it doesn't make you happy and is not getting any better.

Your departing post was very classy. Learning how to leave at the right time is an important skill, one that I wish I had learned in my 20s.

Best of luck

- bart

[BigTex]

I was digging around the basement and found this thread.

It's funny how some things have changed and some things have stayed exactly the same.

[eastbay]

I was digging around the basement and found this thread.

I believe this may be the all-time record 'bump.'

That makes you the champ, BigTex!!

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '[')i]I was digging around the basement and found this thread.

I believe this may be the all-time record 'bump.'

That makes you the champ, BigTex!!

[roccman]

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha!!

Hey matty - you're back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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