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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 10:42:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IslandCrow', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'F')orget mad max read the book of Revelation.


In several threads in the population forum, people have talked about population reduction down to a high of 2 billion and way down to 1/2 billion. Compare that with Revelation 6:8 "They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts".

PO doomers: 66-90% population die-off
Revelation: 25% population die-off


So you only read up to chapter 6. I just reference Revelation because it is a good bit of doomer porn.

You can read the whole thing here:

Revelation


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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 10:47:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'E')vents will continue to speed up. What took a decade to happen in the 60's will now take place within 20 days. Things will continue to speed up from here. It has been written! :razz:


yeah, how are we going to support all of those government pensioners? ;)

People might ask, "shouldn't that money be used to support people who work?"
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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 10:51:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'E')vents will continue to speed up. What took a decade to happen in the 60's will now take place within 20 days. Things will continue to speed up from here. It has been written! :razz:


yeah, how are we going to support all of those government pensioners? ;)

People might ask, "shouldn't that money be used to support people who work?"


Everything [s]will [/s]is changing.

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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby StormBringer » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 10:52:37

Dose the 1 million job loss take into effect the number of people entering the work force as teens???...if not the actual # is much higher.

And i couldnt agree more with...

It will hit the majority of people square in the face and the ones that see it coming won't be much better off unless they have a Bunker to hide in and weather the storm being 99% self reliant.

The problem is: That's very very VERY few people and they better keep a very low profile, desperation suspends morale :/
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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby Byron100 » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 10:55:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'Y')eah. It's really weird right now, because theres' this huge storm blowing up on the horizon, and yet, where we're standing, things aren't bad. I don't know anyone who's hurting badly yet. There's this cloud hanging over of what's coming though.


My gosh, what kind of Utopia are you living in?? :shock: Ever read a newspaper? Take a look at the local TV news? You don't see all those empty gaps in retail shopping centers? You don't notice how short the lines are these days? The sharp increase of panhandlers at street corners?

Here in Atlanta, at least, it's looking pretty grim. Firefighters getting laid off. Teachers getting a pay CUT next year. Crime rates making an ever-steepening climb upwards. Public employees being furloughed one day a month. And, of course, the never-ending stream of layoffs in the private sector. A couple hundred people here, a few dozen there. Each day it gets a bit worse, and everywhere you go, you hear people talking about "hard times." Hard times, indeed.

If you don't feel it yet, you will very soon. If not, you have the utmost moral duty to provide the rest of us your latitude and longitude so the rest of us can load up our jalopies and make our way to the new Promised Land. :o
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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 10:57:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IgnoranceIsBliss', 'R')egarding "make work" projects:

Who is going to run the projects? (general contractors and such) These companies are all out of business. Who is going to underwrite their liability insurance and workers' comp insurance?

How are workers going to get to the project areas? Commute hours every day? Live on site? What about their kids and families?

Will we even be able to get parts and supplies from China? (like new HVAC units for buildings/ schools)

These are just a few issues that I can think of right off the bat. My parents owned a construction company for 30+ years and I know a bit about how things work. If payments aren't received quickly (from the feds once this thing gets running), that will also put companies out of business.

Of course, we are all betting the ranch on the fact that someone is going to be willing to lend us billions of dollars to pay for this great new initiative. I think we will soon see that this is wishful thinking.


Well, I am not saying this is going to WORK, but I can write the scenario for it :-)

Since the housing construction industry is one of the hardest hit right now, the MINUTE the new WPA is open for business, General Contractors will be lined up around the block touting their experience. Jobs will be handed out through political patronage, as always. Liability Insurance will be handled by AIG of course :-) Helicopter Ben will sprinkle out the freshly printed greenbacks like the Money Fairy on Steroids. The Chinese will happily put their factories back to work, relieving them of unrest and unemployment also, and they will loan us all the parts they send over to build Windmills with. This also wil restart the Shipping Industry, with Letters of Credit handed out by the Fed.

By Priming the Pump this way, American Capitalism will be REBORN! In no time at all, we will be selling the megawatts of power generated by the new Windmills BACK to the Chinese in the form of Hydrogen Fuel Cells which will power their new Green Factories. Future generations of American Children will never have to work again as a result of the foresight and sacrifice of this generation of hard working Americans.

And they All Lived Happily Ever After.

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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby sittinguy » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 10:58:43

I think after the holidaz, layoff bombs are going to drop.

There are going to be alot of execs sitting around tables discussung closing the doors and taking whatever is left (if anything) after the new year.

Enjoy your last few months of life as we know it.
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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 10:58:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'E')vents will continue to speed up. What took a decade to happen in the 60's will now take place within 20 days. Things will continue to speed up from here. It has been written! :razz:


yeah, how are we going to support all of those government pensioners? ;)

People might ask, "shouldn't that money be used to support people who work?"


Everything [s]will [/s]is changing.

How are we going to support ourselfs?


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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 11:01:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'E')vents will continue to speed up. What took a decade to happen in the 60's will now take place within 20 days. Things will continue to speed up from here. It has been written! :razz:


yeah, how are we going to support all of those government pensioners? ;)

People might ask, "shouldn't that money be used to support people who work?"


Everything [s]will [/s]is changing.

How are we going to support ourselfs?


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Very good grasshopper. :razz:
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Re: Wow - 533,000 jobs gone in Nov., Most Since 1974

Unread postby lowem » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 11:21:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cipi604', '2')5% or BUST! A few more millions to go... who's counting any more? Let them eat cake.


My "target unemployment rate", if there is such a term, is 50%.
Half the country jobless. Another of those things I hope to be wrong about.
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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby mgibbons19 » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 13:10:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Byron100', '
')My gosh, what kind of Utopia are you living in?? :shock: Ever read a newspaper? Take a look at the local TV news? You don't see all those empty gaps in retail shopping centers? You don't notice how short the lines are these days? The sharp increase of panhandlers at street corners?

Here in Atlanta, at least, it's looking pretty grim. Firefighters getting laid off. Teachers getting a pay CUT next year. Crime rates making an ever-steepening climb upwards. Public employees being furloughed one day a month. And, of course, the never-ending stream of layoffs in the private sector. A couple hundred people here, a few dozen there. Each day it gets a bit worse, and everywhere you go, you hear people talking about "hard times." Hard times, indeed.

If you don't feel it yet, you will very soon. If not, you have the utmost moral duty to provide the rest of us your latitude and longitude so the rest of us can load up our jalopies and make our way to the new Promised Land. :o


I agree with SPG. I live in a fairly nice suburb/exurb. Driving the kids to school I still see lexii, bimmers, and ppl aren't talking about it all falling apart.

The next 'burb over has been in the shits since we got here, so that hasn't changed. The city is cutting services, but we don't live in the city.

These ppl here aren't immune to economic changes, but they are somewhat insulated. It will take a little while to percolate up to them, and it will take awhile to see the effects of that. For it to be clear from the outside, the changes will have to be severe enough that it hits the expensive necessities -cars and homes- and I think that will take some time. I'm not surprised SPG isn't seeing it. Depends on where she is.

Here's the funny thing though. SPG looks out her window and says this is my reality. Your response is "Don't you watch TV?"

Funny world eh?
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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby eastbay » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 13:29:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')hanks for my dose of Uber-Doom for the day. I'm now ready to face the work-place. :)

Yeah, this thread went right over the top in a hurry, didn't it?

That happens around here now and then.



At least no one brought up the possibility of cannibalism. So there's still some hope, maybe? :)
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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby Zardoz » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 13:33:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s many as a million American jobs could be lost every month by next spring...according to a new analysis.

Graham Turner, of consultancy GFC Economics...

...Turner says...

Who is this guy, and why are we taking what he says as absolute Gospel truth, cast in titanium?

What is this? Why are we all turning into such a pack of drama queens? A link to a story is posted, and we start quoting apocalyptic scripture as an accurate forecast of what is going to happen.

Hello?

Some of us really are letting all this get to us, it looks like. Calm down, for Christ's sake. There will be no mass suicide cults formed. There will be no death camps.

Get a grip, people. Jesus...
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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 13:45:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '
')Who is this guy, and why are we taking what he says as absolute Gospel truth, cast in titanium?

What is this? Why are we all turning into such a pack of drama queens? A link to a story is posted, and we start quoting apocalyptic scripture as an accurate forecast of what is going to happen.

Hello?

Some of us really are letting all this get to us, it looks like. Calm down, for Christ's sake. There will be no mass suicide cults formed. There will be no death camps.

Get a grip, people. Jesus...


I think you need to get a grip... on a semi-automatic rifle. :razz:

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I think this guy predicting a million job losses a month counts as a fortuneteller, no?

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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby Armageddon » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 13:54:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '
')Who is this guy, and why are we taking what he says as absolute Gospel truth, cast in titanium?

What is this? Why are we all turning into such a pack of drama queens? A link to a story is posted, and we start quoting apocalyptic scripture as an accurate forecast of what is going to happen.

Hello?

Some of us really are letting all this get to us, it looks like. Calm down, for Christ's sake. There will be no mass suicide cults formed. There will be no death camps.

Get a grip, people. Jesus...


I think you need to get a grip... on a semi-automatic rifle. :razz:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.
-Leviticus 20:27


I think this guy predicting a million job losses a month counts as a fortuneteller, no?

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Re: Forecast: 1 million jobs lost per month

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 15:20:39

Jesus didn't have to deal with a credit, housing, jobs, environmental and energy crisis hitting at the same time.

If He were to come back today, I think He would understand our need to return to public stoning of the fortunetellers.
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US Jobless Rate Jumps To 16 Year High

Unread postby deMolay » Fri 06 Feb 2009, 16:16:16

Over 500,000 Jobs gone in January alone. http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/02/06/ ... 424655.php
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Re: US Jobless Rate Jumps To 16 Year High

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Fri 06 Feb 2009, 16:23:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'O')ver 500,000 Jobs gone in January alone. http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/02/06/ ... 424655.php


Quick! We need a massive stimulus package with lots and lots of pork.
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Re: US Jobless Rate Jumps To 16 Year High

Unread postby bratticus » Fri 06 Feb 2009, 16:32:23

quite a bloodbath

http://www.layoffdaily.com/
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Re: US Jobless Rate Jumps To 16 Year High

Unread postby bratticus » Fri 06 Feb 2009, 16:54:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Monthly job losses largest decline since 1974 by Tom Abate, Chronicle Staff Writer, Friday, February 6, 2009:
SAN FRANCISCO -- The U.S. unemployment rate jumped to 7.6 percent in January, its highest level since September 1992, as employers cut 598,000 payroll jobs in a recessionary spiral with no immediate end in sight. --skip--

A Labor Department report issued Friday paints a grim picture of a deteriorating economy that has lost 3.6 million jobs since the recession began in December 2007, with roughly half of those losses occurring within the past three months. January's payroll job losses were the steepest one-month decline since the end of 1974 when the nation was battling another deep recession. ... snip ...
So surprising that 1974 was the last time unemployment was like this. I wonder what was happening then and how it relates to now? :roll:
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