[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')This might work fine on your nice subsistence permaculture farm, I am not certain however how you make it work for the millions of people living in big cities right now. What would you have them do, or is it just all leisure time?

Eventually perhaps we work our way back to localism, but how do you manage the transition here? Without the Zombies of course.

[lawnchair]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')A Make Work Project is the most obvious solution, and so far not on the Horizon in the Obamanation. The theory they seem to have is that if you throw enough toilet paper at the Banksters, the Market will respond and magically produce jobs to start employing people again.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lawnchair', '
')Not that war was, even then, a sane or lasting solution to economic overproduction, but we also are restricted from going down that road by the spectre of thermonuclear weapons.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')
Sounds suspiciously like the same kind of Ponzi Scheme that got us here in the first place.

[gt1370a]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'H')owever, given that Capitalism has proven itself to be a complete and magnificent FAILURE here, you really have to scrap this monetary system and set up a command economy where you define the value of everything and set production goals and so forth.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', ' ')I don't know where the "real change" is here with the Obamanation

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gt1370a', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'H')owever, given that Capitalism has proven itself to be a complete and magnificent FAILURE here, you really have to scrap this monetary system and set up a command economy where you define the value of everything and set production goals and so forth.

[gt1370a]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'W')ho's talking about Fannie and Freddie? I'm talking about every Auto company in the WORLD from GM to Honda, from Chrysler to BMW ALL bleeding red ink like a stuck pig. I'm talking about 67,000 factories in China with their doors shut and millions of Chinese out of

[Kristen]

Yeah it's really a tragedy. You lose you're job and you have 13 months before you shoot yourself.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gt1370a', ' ') It is a failure of government, not capitalism.

[IgnoranceIsBliss]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')
Sounds suspiciously like the same kind of Ponzi Scheme that got us here in the first place.

[IgnoranceIsBliss]

Sorry, I had technical problems. Will post later.

[Ache]

Friday's employment report showed that the U.S. economy lost 651,000 jobs in February, with the unemployment rate rising to 8.1%

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he nation's unemployment rate bolted to 8.1 percent in February, the highest since late 1983, as cost-cutting employers slashed 651,000 jobs amid a deepening recession.

Both figures were worse than analysts expected and the Labor Department's report shows America's workers being clobbered by a wave of layoffs unlikely to ease in the coming months.

"There is no light at the end of the tunnel with these numbers," said Nigel Gault, economist at IHS Global Insight. "Job losses were everywhere and there's no hope for a turnaround any time soon."

[Dreamtwister]

8.1%? That's a fantasy. Try 19%.

Source: Shadowstats

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') record 31.8 million Americans were receiving food stamps at the latest count, an increase of 700,000 people in a month and equal to around 10% of the entire US population.

Food stamps, which help poor people buy groceries, are the major US anti-hunger program, forecast to cost at least $US51 billion in the American financial year ending September 30. That will be five times the 2008 cost of $US10 billion, according to figures out overnight.

[jasonraymondson]

How many people are under-employed?

[Daniel_Plainview]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'H')ow many people are under-employed?

[deMolay]

In this report, since the last jobless report the number of states with over 10% unemployment has doubled. And 49 more states have seen increased unemployment. Those who think the crisis has passed and a short uptick in the DOW indicates a turnaround are fooling themselves.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/27/AR2009032700979.html

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'I')n this report, since the last jobless report the number of states with over 10% unemployment has doubled. And 49 more states have seen increased unemployment. Those who think the crisis has passed and a short uptick in the DOW indicates a turnaround are fooling themselves.

[Schmuto]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'I')n this report, since the last jobless report the number of states with over 10% unemployment has doubled. And 49 more states have seen increased unemployment. Those who think the crisis has passed and a short uptick in the DOW indicates a turnaround are fooling themselves.