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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 11:15:11

Gold up another $70 today, so that's now 182 +6 = 188 Big macs 8)
When it hits 200 I'll go buy one, for the neighbors Dog.



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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 11:59:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Gold up another $70 today, so that's now 182 +6 = 188 Big macs 8)


I guess we shouldn't be surprised that a parrot thinks a burgers to gold comparison makes a point. Even a parrot would have included a change through time, to determine the temporal change in the relationship going back in time to see if someone should have invested in burgers instead of gold. Sort of like what happened to gold and market tracking funds.

A monkey could make a better argument for...whatever.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby Armageddon » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 13:41:24

I’ll stand by my prediction that $14 silver will be the best investment in history. It’s going to multiple hundreds.

With the exception of cryptos, which I think will collapse long term.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 14:22:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'I')’ll stand by my prediction that $14 silver will be the best investment in history. It’s going to multiple hundreds.

With the exception of cryptos, which I think will collapse long term.


Well, based on your prediction on when the draft would start in the US, 2006, how about we just giggle gently right now...and admit that your predictions to date are no different than throwing chicken bones. Plus, your past with gold indicates that you buy at outrageously high prices compared to the smarter money, and silver is like amateur hour anyway.

But I'm game...silver to multiple hundreds by the guy who bought gold high, has predicted doom multiple times in 2 decades that didn't happen, doesn't know the meaning of the words he uses ("kinds", "collapse" and "transitional fossils" most recently), but wants to gamble in amateur hour silver!

One clarifying comment: And what is your timeframe? Within a year? Or 5? Before sugar momma flies the family to Naples for your next trust funded adventure out of God-fearing, science denying and investment amateur hour hoe-bunkle land?

I'll be traveling through Missouri within the next 2 weeks, have the Churchs that keep Missouri parishners uneducated and unquestioning managed to get all the naked dancing girlz and adult book stores closed along the interstates yet?
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby Armageddon » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 15:09:21

I’ll give you another history lesson, just like I showed you that evolution is a hoax because the fossil record shows no species has ever changed kinds.

Gold always moves first, then silver moves more on a percentage basis. Silver is the most undervalued asset on the planet. Sure, it takes up more space as indicated by the 90:1 GSR, but hoards of 100 oz bars are easy to stash.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 17:59:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'I')’ll give you another history lesson, just like I showed you that evolution is a hoax because the fossil record shows no species has ever changed kinds.


History lesson? You mean about the American draft in 2006? A far as the fossil record, that's pretty much done. You didn't even know what transitional fossils were until I provided the explanation of them, turns out you REALLY didn't know what you are talking about. I still suspect religious training of some sort, where science is misrepresented and those who can't think for themselves fall for it hook, line and sinker.

You did the same with Ruppert.

Oh yeah....no one has a clue what "kinds" are. Can you please provide a definition from the "Missouri Dumb As A Stump Definition For Religious Nutters" dictionary?

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')Gold always moves first, then silver moves more on a percentage basis.

Prove it. Any chart summarizing, and the data itself so it can be checked (no one should ever be expected to trust science deniers) showing the temporal delay between gold increasing and then silver increasing more will do. Choose your temporal delay, a day, a week, a month, a quarter, and produce the chart. It should quantify this consistent pattern across the given time frame...which can't be your usual cherry picked nonsense because your idiot sources did it that way.

Or because you probably can't even define the word "analysis", let alone DO any, this graph and data a 5th grader could handle is beyond your safety cage protected backside elderly self? Quite possible.

If so....ask a grandhild to do it for you. Unless of course they were taught in the same science denying religious frenzied schools you were.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '
') Silver is the most undervalued asset on the planet.

We can talk about the value of yet another dumbass comment from you after you prove your above statement.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby Armageddon » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 19:31:56

Deutche Bank just lifted its 2026 targets: Gold avg $4,000 (range ~$3,550–4,450), Silver $45.

Drivers: softer USD, lower real yields, strong CB buying, weak recycling. Risks: hot equities, Q4 seasonality. Positioning still light; silver in deficit.


I predict they will raise their price target several times next year
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 20:01:32

Armageddon is quite right, Silver will be the asset of the century. I personally have a literal ShitTon of it. I began buying it for the obvious economics, it being totally undervalued by a modern world that couldn't run without it. And frankly I was a little scared to put all my money into Gold. But after a few years I just fell in love with Silver, the look of it, the smell! Yes it has it's own unique smell. And of course the price kept going up and up. It's nearly $67/oz here now, it was around $6 when I first began buying 20 years ago and more.

Who Buys Silver and Gold? Doomsters buy it, they are the only ones. Cornucopians buy shares because they believe in the Bright Green Future. Doomsters believe in Armageddon (in some shape of form) and they distrust paper assets, even though they may employ them from time to time. That's why I know when someone is Lying about owning Gold, Cornucopians don't buy Gold. I'm one of the biggest Doomsters here!
And doing very well because of it :lol:

I know you shouldn't fall in love with an asset class, that's dangerous territory, but with Silver, not really a problem. Along with copper and perhaps aluminium it's probably the most underrated metal on the Planet. Why copper and ally? Because of their utility compared the vast amounts of energy that is needed to get them out of the ground and process them, refine them. But in reality they can stay cheap because there so much above ground now, both in stockpiles and in produced product.

Most houses are full of copper and aluminium, but Silver? It's a scarce as hen's Teeth and getting scarcer because most of it's production gets consumed and is unrecoverable.

Naturally the Lucky Country is a major producer.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ining is a big part of Australia’s history, and it continues to shape the country’s economy and position in the world today. The nation is one of the world’s top producers and exporters of resources, with coal, uranium, copper and gold being some of its best-known commodities.

Australia is also a key producer of silver — it was the world’s fifth largest producer of the metal in 2022, putting out 1,400 tonnes. Interestingly, most of Australia's silver is produced from silver-bearing galena, but some is also produced as a by-product of copper and gold mining.
https://investingnews.com/silver-mining-in-australia

1400 tons produced in 2022, and even less now. What was Aussie Gold production in 2022? over 3000 tons. Twice as much. All that Gold is still with us, a lot of the Silver is Gone, forever.



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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 20:37:20

For the unenlightened ones, Silver production is falling because Silver is mostly produced as a byproduct of other mining, a very small byproduct. Copper, zinc, lead, tin. When those mines slow production, Silver production is slowed. Mining is very Energy intensive (oil intensive).

Why is most of the Silver ever produced gone forever? Because it's used in tiny amounts, but in vast quantities. Like little coatings on bearings, on light switches, in the wiring of solar panels, in the electronics of Missiles and space vehicles, which are either blown up or burn up during reentry.

It's simply economicall unfeasable to extract it from solar panels too, that's why they dont!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ow is silver used in solar cells? Silver powder is turned into a paste which is then loaded onto a silicon wafer. When light strikes the silicon, electrons are set free and the silver – the world’s best conductor – carries the electricity
https://silverinstitute.org/silver-solar-technology-2/
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')olar Cell Creation: The treated silicon wafers are assembled into solar cells. When these cells encounter sunlight, energy from the sun excites electrons, generating a current.

Cell Interconnection: After the solar cells are produced, they are connected with thin silver or copper wire, which is soldered onto the cells in a grid pattern. This helps direct the current from one cell to the next.
https://learn.apmex.com/answers/how-muc ... lar-panel/

Silver recovery? A Very expensive processes, but perhaps in the future all those waste sites may be dug up and mined?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2')021-- Perfectly good solar panels are being dumped, and how New South Wales is putting an end to it. The New South Wales government has backed a trial that will rescue rooftop solar panels destined for landfill to keep generating energy in solar gardens.
https://www.eco-business.com/news/perfe ... end-to-it/

What do the Engineers say?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')am Vanderhoof, a solar industry expert and chief executive of Recycle PV Solar, told the Los Angeles Times it estimated only one in ten panels were recycled because the process is expensive and time-consuming. It costs about $20 to $30 to recycle a panel compared with $1 to $2 to send it to a landfill, according to figures from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory. “The industry is supposed to be green,” Vanderhoof said. “But in reality, it’s all about the money.”
I wonder if we'll eventually see the same problem with a growing number of expired electric car batteries too?
https://engx.theiet.org/f/discussions/2 ... lar-panels

No Shit Sherlock. It's always about the money :roll:


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat to do with dead panels is an uncomfortable question for a global industry where recycling remains woefully inadequate for two reasons: because its current cost exceeds the value of the material recovered, and because governments, with a few exceptions, are not mandating recycling. Globally, only 17.4 percent of e-waste is collected and recycled; the fate of the remaining 82.6 percent is “unknown,” according to a UN 2020 report. We do know, however, that solar panels are being dumped into regular landfills around the world. Once they break, their heavy metal contents leach into the soil. https://www.mediasupport.org/in-depth/e ... evolution/

It's over!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ld solar panels are increasingly stockpiled in Europe due to bottlenecks in installation, insufficient recycling infrastructure, and bureaucratic issues, leading to a significant backlog of unused and uninstalled modules that risk obsolescence. While there is a push for recycling to recover valuable materials and reduce waste, the lack of specialized facilities and the cost-prohibitive nature of current recycling processes mean that many panels end up in landfills or are stockpiled instead.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 20:52:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '
')I predict they will raise their price target several times next year

With more or less confidence than you predicted the US instituting a draft in 2006?
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 20:57:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'A')rmageddon is quite right, Silver will be the asset of the century.


Armie hasn't been right about anything I can find in his entire history on this website....but he did GREAT finding a sugar momma in real life. Straight up jackpot!

As far as you PM fanbois, pimping PMs is like a mental disease....but an easy one to get, because it requires someone to just be ignorant and buy shiny stuff.

I theorize that the reason why Careinke can beat both of you like a pinata in investing because Careinke knows WHY they invest. And HOW do do everything from mitigate risk, manage risk, offset it, and obviously those techniques aren't available to bubble headed fanbois.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 21:08:05

I know I know, those two posts were a bit challenging for most readers here. Let's get back to basics.

Gold Up another 2 Big Macs so far today! That's 190 free burgers for this year so far.


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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 21:19:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I') know I know, those two posts were a bit challenging for most readers here.


Indeed. Among the 4-5 regulars here, only like 2 or 3 of us graduated high school...and then some....aren't parrots or versed in religious memes as to how science doesn't know what it is doing. Oh yeah, and thought the US was instituting a draft 19 years ago.

Hell...one of them can't identify their favorite oils off a list!! How slack jawed silly ignorant is that?
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 22 Sep 2025, 23:51:09

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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 23 Sep 2025, 06:53:44

Make McDonalds Great Again

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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 23 Sep 2025, 06:55:47

The Big Mac Index and the Golden Gauge:

And you thought I was just horsing around didn't you.

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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 23 Sep 2025, 07:17:49

Gold bars vs. Big Macs: A tale of purchasing power and value

1968, the price of gold was $35 oz
1968 Big macs cost 45 cents
Big macs today are 10 to 12 times more expensive
Gold today is 108 times more expensive.
Even if you take Gold from the 2000 low of $270, it's still about 14 times more expensive today @ $US 3800

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou might be familiar with the Big Mac Index – a tool to make exchange rates more ‘digestible’. Developed by The Economist, it examines the price of a Big Mac in local currencies, working on the assumption that exchange rates should eventually move until the price of a burger is equal in any two countries. By the latest count, a Big Mac costs £4.49 in the UK, and $5.69 in the US, generating a ‘burger exchange rate’ of 0.79. At the time of going to press, this was almost bang on the official USD/GBP exchange rate.

But exchange rates aren’t the only thing that burgers are useful for. They can also give us a neat insight into the purchasing power of gold. Since 2002, German website gold.de has calculated a ‘Gold Mac Index’, based on how many burgers you would hypothetically receive in exchange for a gramme of the precious metal.
https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/co ... 2c0d6e0efa

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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 23 Sep 2025, 08:35:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Gold bars vs. Big Macs: A tale of purchasing power and the way idiots measure value


Thank you for your take on the Big Mac / Gold thing. Quite illuminating. For a houseplant anyway.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 23 Sep 2025, 11:47:36

Another hectic day in the Gold market, up 6 Big Macs an ounce.
It's probably true, that Big Mac index I posted on above. They're cheaper in Britain's old colony of north America but so is Gold in that currency. It will good when the whole world is on the metric system :)
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged) Pt. 2

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 23 Sep 2025, 12:23:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '&')quot;Half of workers are at breaking point," per FORTUNE


Quick question Armie, do you have the ability to define what "half" might mean?

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