[mgibbons19]

It's a good thing the original poster doesn't suffer too many fmanly laws, like being a computer nerd so geeked out he named himself after a keyboard, and instead of actually getting laid in real life is dreaming about using supercomputers to model a visual perfect average, debating about it all in a scif-fi cult virtual community.

Platonic ideals are fun and all, but I'll take real women in the real world.

[Atlantean_Relic]

Qwerty the PO Pygmalion.

[Z]

This thread is meaningless.

[azreal60]

That poor poor boy.

I have to say, there is no perfect woman for all men, because all men are different.

My perfection is Hugely different than Tyler JC's for instance. I would take my wife over elizabeth hurley any day of the week. ( skinny girls just don't do it for me)

I have to agree, it's a pretty pointless post, but do you ever notice how some of the best talks can come out of pointless trivial crap? It's because your so tired of talking about the orginal topic you start branching outwards to new things.

[joewp]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Z', 'T')his thread is meaningless.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('markam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he problem is I have never seen a woman that looks perfect. All are ugly.

[Concerned]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Concerned', '
')It's really quite simple. Ultimate perfection does not exist. Not for a woman, man, apple, movie or chess game.

There is no real point to a beauty pagent, it's flaring off excess energy and mostly it's entertainment.

The ultimate perfection is not non perfection, it quite simply is that it makes no sense to frame your question in this manner. Some things that you find desirable other people may find undesirable. Therefore you can't say what you or someone else likes is the one perfect way of having that thing. Not to mention that some highly desirable attributes may be mutually exclusive, depending on individual preferance

What you idea of perfection is will differ from someone else thinks is perfect. The whole concept is not only absurd but an irrelevant proposition.

[WildRose]

Here's another thought, Qwerty.

Since you are certain that you can create a visual image of a perfect woman, why don't you just go ahead and do it? You sound like you're quite sure of what all the parameters would be, so why would you need to consult anyone else?

And, knowing that you don't agree that ideas of perfection are subjective, it would be interesting to see if you could find another person who is in 100% agreement that the image you create is perfect.

[qwerty]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('markam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he problem is I have never seen a woman that looks perfect. All are ugly.

[qwerty]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Concerned', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Concerned', '
')It's really quite simple. Ultimate perfection does not exist. Not for a woman, man, apple, movie or chess game.

There is no real point to a beauty pagent, it's flaring off excess energy and mostly it's entertainment.

The ultimate perfection is not non perfection, it quite simply is that it makes no sense to frame your question in this manner. Some things that you find desirable other people may find undesirable. Therefore you can't say what you or someone else likes is the one perfect way of having that thing. Not to mention that some highly desirable attributes may be mutually exclusive, depending on individual preferance

What you idea of perfection is will differ from someone else thinks is perfect. The whole concept is not only absurd but an irrelevant proposition.

[qwerty]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Z', 'T')his thread is meaningless.

[qwerty]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', 'H')ere's another thought, Qwerty.

Since you are certain that you can create a visual image of a perfect woman, why don't you just go ahead and do it? You sound like you're quite sure of what all the parameters would be, so why would you need to consult anyone else?

And, knowing that you don't agree that ideas of perfection are subjective, it would be interesting to see if you could find another person who is in 100% agreement that the image you create is perfect.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', 'L')ike I said earlier, No need to get so defensive. Sheesh...
I explained to you my line of reasoning, but your reputtal is a simple
"sounds like a closet case to me". Well, I'm sorry you feel that way.

[mgibbons19]

Nah it's a fascinating idea. Although the poor bastard doesn't present himself that well.

It's kind of like that playboy art:



It's not about real women, at's about the platonic woman (if you believe such a thing exists), or just an average.

If you're not into plato though, you're likely to think it too subjective and bound to fail.

Edit: stupid pictures!

and to say that in the process of finding platos ideal, I suspect real eros will be killed.

[Concerned]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', '
')The fact that YOU as a SUBJECTIVE individual BELIEVE that "there is no such thing as a single ideal of perfection for a ..." is still your INDIVIDUAL belief, & THAT believe itself is subject to VARY from INDIVIDUAL TO INDIVIDUAL. Get it?

There is no such thing as objectivity, at best subjective objectivity.
You are no more right than I am, you can be no more right than I am.

[WildRose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', '
')

I just want to find ONE thing that is totally immersive, dynamic, alive, so stunningly shocking gorgious and magnificiently beautiful, so lovely and absolutely perfect, so awe inspiring and magical, so intimately enchanting, so simple, open, kind, transparent, yet elegant that I could stare at it for the rest of eternity and never get bored, each moment being a infinite perfection over the other, always infinitely adding onto infinitely, every moment being newest and bestest, forever and a day. Never feeling bored, never tiring, never ending.

[WildRose]

Sorry, I didn't do the quote thing correctly on my last post.

The first paragraph is from one of Qwerty's posts.

{Fixed it for you - TheTurtle}

[qwerty]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', 'L')ike I said earlier, No need to get so defensive. Sheesh...
I explained to you my line of reasoning, but your reputtal is a simple
"sounds like a closet case to me". Well, I'm sorry you feel that way.

[qwerty]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', '
')

This is why, I think, people can acknowledge beauty in people other than their spouses or current boyfriends/girlfriends. We all know what qualities attracted us to our partners, and love is love, but we are aware of beauty in others.

[qwerty]

I often wonder what is the most beautiful female personality?
(and this is in complete disregard to physical looks, just the essence of her personality itself)

I'm not sure, but I can take a guess:

Kindness, empathy, caringness, Adoration, Sacrificial love, affinity,
compassion, friendship, generosity, forgiveness, patience, and understanding.

And I would also guess that the bestest most perfectest 'relationships' are when both persons have a deep 'soul'-level recognition of one another, and that they have an innative instictive absolute trust towards each other, both possessing the same resonant radiating life-energy. Its a union full of divinity, of harmony and happiness, everlasting joy and never-ending hope.

Its a relationship of intrinsic value, a feeling of coming 'home', almost like a soulmate love, one of nostalgia and reminiscence, with a special meditative yet erotic passion. One that comes natural, one that is effortless, almost like it was a match made in eternity.


The interesting thing to note is that in the end if any truth is to be found, monkeys may need to take a nonreductive approach to the whole matter. Can personalities exists in pure vacuum without a physical casing? Doesn't one depend on the other for its existence? Why is it okay to judge a person by the content of their character and NOT the color of their skin or the beauty of their facial characteristics? I am not in any way advocating racism. I just think people should ponder these questions more throughly.
If we shouldn't judge someone by their physical appearance then why should we judge by IQ, personality, temperament, and other ethereal nontangible virtues and vices?

This is why I think a perfect person, or at least a near perfect person, is a whole package, a holistic combination of synergy of mind and body. The forest and the trees. Perfection is like a holographic plate, as long as you find a tiny piece you have it all. It is only natural that the perfect physical girl/woman also simulanteously possess the perfect personality, and vice versa.