THE Impeachment Thread (merged)

by **SidneyTawl** » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 00:49:00

'All I care about is that you respect the truth and work toward it. Others have their own agendas as to what makes them tick.
But K,
come one dude. its about tomorrow, not the past.
why go back when the future is where ya gotta go.

by **k_semler** » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 00:53:03

I meant Comrade Hillary, not Slick Willie.

by **Geology_Guy** » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 01:05:06

I would like a President Cheney!
All people that commit war crimes should be charged. Torching villages, shooting civilians etc. Oops-I forgot those crimes are OK because they were commited by a Democratic senator!

by **MicroHydro** » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 01:11:23

Nothing is going to come out of this. At this point, GW Bush could molest and murder Arab children on live TV. The mass media noise machine would praise the president 24/7. Atty General Gonzales would give the Pres a hearty backslap. And the majority of congress would vote to award Bush a medal of honor while his supreme court buddies applaud. What a handful of minority congressmen think isn't worth a warm kettle of spit.

by **SidneyTawl** » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 01:12:05

Pres Cheney,
sure,... put the ventriloquest(>speling) in place of the dummy.

that will solve the problem of "the act" :wink:

People on street corners with signs and more will send the message.
just get your people motivated dude,
of course ya don't think ol hide in the bunker and send the men to fight cheney will not go down with his dummy.

by **k_semler** » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 01:24:37

I could just imagine Al Gore, I mean Dick Cheney as our president. My god!

He would put the nation to sleep during the State of the Union address. [smilie=new_sleeping.gif]

by **SidneyTawl** » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 01:43:05

WHat I find so "interesting" is that those that know so much about PO. can be so flippant when it comes to your future.
But that is your choice.
good by and good luck
As far as I can tell all of you are going to need it, good people or not.
My two cents.
SidneyTawl.
regards,
JT IT TT and much more.
careful now.
ya know what I mean
there is always another hole,
something the current admin is finding out.

by MD » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 06:08:48

What we really need is to fan the flame of polarization so that when civic order breaks down we will have two very well defined groups ready to have at each other. Yep, this is what we need......

by **RonMN** » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 07:19:51

MD, you make a damn good point!
I appologize for my flip remarks & if i have offended people. But i have to say i DO like dubya (even though i don't agree with everything he's done and i DO think he's made some mistakes).

I think the vast majority of accusations against him are baseless and without foundation. But that doesn't mean i should be sticking my tongue out at others.
The polarization of this country is a massive problem & we need to bring that under control BEFORE TSHTF!

by **EnemyCombatant** » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 12:26:43

Kerry the skull n bonesman, a sworn brother of Bush and the Illuminati, is only taking this memo and running with it so he can control the situation.

Kerry is by no means an activist in Congress, he rarely gets involved in any issue. The Bush campaign was correct about Kerry being absent all of the time.
Kerry bent over and bowed out in the'04 election because he was playing the game. Kerry supports this war and the patriot act. Remember his true colors. If Conyers was pushing this, it would be a different dynamic. That's why Kerry has jumped in to save the day.

by **threadbear** » Sun 05 Jun 2005, 01:03:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'M')D, you make a damn good point!
I appologize for my flip remarks & if i have offended people. But i have to say i DO like dubya (even though i don't agree with everything he's done and i DO think he's made some mistakes).
I think the vast majority of accusations against him are baseless and without foundation. But that doesn't mean i should be sticking my tongue out at others.
The polarization of this country is a massive problem & we need to bring that under control BEFORE TSHTF!

by **arretium** » Sun 05 Jun 2005, 01:11:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'J')eb...no Laura or Condi...yes!
Jeb just ain't got that certain sump'in'...
Anyhoo...do you see what this crap is trying to do? It's trying to make Prez Bush a "lame duck"...and it's a pretty LAME attempt!
I'd like to see it...BRING IT ON! Try to impeach dubya! I double dare ya

by **gg3** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 05:51:47

The allegation at stake here is whether the present administration lied to get us into a war. To my mind that's as serious as it gets: 1600+ dead and 20,000+ wounded American troops, and probably over 100,000 dead Iraqi noncombatants, the demoralization of the world's greatest fighting force (look at the recruitment numbers), the loss of stature in the eyes of most of the world, the total squandering of America's moral capital after 9-11...

My Mom saw the attack on the Twin Towers, my sister in law saw the attack on the Pentagon, and a close friend of mine is about to go into his second tour in Iraq. I take the overall war personally, I take it seriously, I believe Bush was right on target with his doctrine of "harboring terrorists," and I believe we have the legitimate right to defend ourselves by fighting the barbarians wherever they may be hiding.

I believed what I heard about Saddam holding WMDs, and I agreed that was a valid rationale for going to war: after all, one case of smallpox...

I believed, I supported, I argued the issues with friends, and now it comes out that there is a reasonable chance it was all for a God-damned pack of stinking lies. And you can believe it takes a lot to make me use the "G--D---" cuss.
So yes, investigate thoroughly, rigorously, and vigorously. We need the truth, because if the truth is that we've been poisoned by lies, we need to take our medicine and puke up the poison before it kills us.
----
The very fact that we're talking about Jeb vs. Hillary shows how far our system has fallen.
How different things would be if 2008 was between Colin Powell and Wesley Clark.

by **heyhoser** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 08:05:37

For being so well informed on Peak Oil issues, some of you guys are seriously delusional. Clinton gets impeached for lying about sex, Bush gets re-elected for lying about Iraq? "When Clinton lied, nobody died" you morons.
Sure Kerry's a puppet and just going along with the powers-that-be. At least he's got the balls to fight against your stupid god-damned propoganda.

by MD » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 08:24:49

Go after the truth, absolutely go after the truth.
It appears to me though, that there is less digging for truth and more pursuit of any reason at all to remove President Bush from office.
If he has committed impeachable offenses, and impeachment proceedings find charges with merit, then by all means boot him out.
Running about shouting "hallefugginglooya" does nothing to support your cause, in fact it has the opposite effect.

by **JoeW** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 11:44:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'I') meant Comrade Hillary, not Slick Willie.

by **EddieB** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 12:21:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'l')et's just go back to the days when there were no labor laws so that the guys who own all the capital can pay us $1/hr, no benefits, and work us as many hours a day as they want.

by MD » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 13:08:35

Our model of capitalism worked quite well for forty years or so. The reasons aren't because we did such a wonderful job of balancing raw capitalism and socialism(although we did do fairly well).
The real reason is simply that we came through WWII unscathed and at the beginning of a cheap energy boom.

Now we are experiencing the death of the "American Dream" which for a while provided opportunity for any laboror to support a family, own a home, and send his children to college.
Today we are back to the more traditional norm. Two laborers or more per household, inability to accummulate real wealth, inability to access hearth care, inability to provide a better future for offspring.
The great accident: Middle Class America

by **gary_malcolm** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 14:07:20

I love how the self-declared "conservatives" slither along with the blood-splattered, oil covered scum that are riding this country and it's founding principals into the freaking ground. Between dead soldiers, dead Iraqis and dead moral values our leaders really seem to be promoting a "Culture of Life". Perhaps we should *not* impeach and instead post their heads on stakes at the D.C. city limits as a warning to others who would try to destroy our ethics, morals and humanity in the rush to greed.

Ditto to you... traitors.
Do you remember why you logged onto this site in the first place?
It's actually relieving to know that a return to Jeffersonian Agricultural Democracy will take place no matter what Bushus Caesar and his lackies do to F things up in the next few years. Depletion ultimately guarantees their capitalist ponzi scheme failure. Have fun dancing to the band as the ship of state sinks.

by **DomusAlbion** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 14:13:23

Ah Gary, I see a camp in your future. :cry:

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