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THE Illuminati Thread (merged)

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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby Chuckmak » Mon 20 Nov 2006, 16:16:08

"...while he sits back and collects the wealth you murdered for...ain't the devil happy..." (c) jeru the damaja
"if god doesn't exist, it is necessary that we invent him" - Voltaire

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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 23 Nov 2006, 13:13:26

the western mind tries to own everything doesnt it Raph?

It cant help it 8)
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Origin of Tarot

The origin of Tarot cards is shrouded in mystery! Tarot cards are mentioned in ancient accounts and books, and documented in old parchments and artefacts from the thirteenth century. It probably had its origins in India, Iran or China, and may have been brought to the West by Gypsies, returning Crusaders or the Arab invaders of Spain. The Tarot embodies the wisdom of ancient Egypt, pagan Celtic traditions, and the symbolism of Dante's Divine Comedy. The word 'Tarot' could have originated from 'Tarrock' or 'Tarrochi', believed to be card games in Europe.

An interesting theory springs from Papus, the Key to Occult Science, which explains that ancient Egyptian priests designed the deck as one way of preserving their secrets for initiates of future ages. These secrets were developed in a symbolic manner.

Other schools of thought believe tarot cards are a record of the secret teachings of underground religious groups, occultists and spiritual societies in Europe. The origin of tarot, however, can safely be attributed to the Gnostics, an early Christian sect.

Another popular concept links the origin of tarot to the legendary 'Book of Thoth' containing teachings of the secret schools of Egypt and Hebrew philosophy. The symbols and illustrations on the cards of the Major Arcana could be from the Cabala, a mystical Jewish tradition and system that attributes divine powers to numbers and letters.

The most popular theory is that Tarot was created in ancient Egypt, and brought to Europe around the fourteenth century by wandering tribes of Gypsies, who are dark-haired, olive-skinned and probably of Asian origin.

Significant persons and spiritual movements have contributed to the evolution and explanation of the Tarot cards. New Tarot decks are being created even today with different visuals and explanations. The term, 'on the cards' is used frequently when an event or happening is foreseen and likely to happen.


Its like the Baghdad battery Versus the inventor of the battery.

Battery inventor queery at about dot com

Baghdad Battery wiki

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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:35:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', ' ')
One clue: Tarot didn't exist until they were invented in the Middle Ages.

Now my Bullshit Meter just went off... you prove that my friend.
Maybe you can solve the 'origin' of the tarot...this is another unresolved debate...




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarot#Early_tarot_decks

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')arly tarot decks

The relationship between tarot cards and playing cards is well documented. Playing cards appeared quite suddenly in Christian Europe during the period 1375–1380, following several decades of use in Islamic Spain (see playing card history for discussion of its origins). Early European sources describe a deck with typically 52 cards, like a modern deck with no jokers [1]. The 78-card tarot resulted from adding 21 trumps and The Fool to an early 56-card variant (14 cards per suit).

A greater distribution of playing cards in Europe can with some certainty be given for the year 1377 and the following years. Tarot cards only developed some 40 years later and they are mentioned, possibly for the first time, in the surviving text of Martiano da Tortona [2]. Initially, tarot cards were only known as "trionfi" (triumphs). Only later did the name "tarocchi" appear.


You might claim otherwise but can you show me any Tarot card older far older than that?
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Fri 24 Nov 2006, 11:25:18

Why do you only want to see connections? And why do you dissmiss any differences without any argument.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut it is only because I am a keen observer of a manufactured HIStory.

You need to do better than that.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby NEOPO » Fri 24 Nov 2006, 19:59:55

Raph usually gives ALL and I gave you two decent examples of the COMMON misconceptions of the western mind-set-in-stone yet apparently to no avail.

No worries Raph as I always feel very intrigued if not completely blown away by alot of this stuff yet I am fairly well schooled in numerology and of course theosophy which for the uninitiated is the comparative study of all religions ages et al..... so I suppose I am PRIMED 8)

There is a reason why we "went there" in the first place - another reason why we choose to "take on" or "believe" and yet another reason why most of the people cannot.
I no longer feel bad about it.
This gap, this void in between what I consider to be "us" and "them".
This metaphoric "Moat" seems at times quite real and it also seems that "they" have chosen to widen and trap it further.
I see no recourse but violence and death after a very long seige thus I must now run off to my solitary cave until all of you MONKEYS get it figured the fuck out thanks 8)
Hope there is a planet left when you are done yet I have my doubts.....

They are right - The world does not need to know about the illumunati ..hell they have learned to love their symbolic chains and the pole from which the noose now hangs......
The world does not need to know about the federal reserve/private banking as apparently they enjoy paying and paying and paying.....
The world does not need to know about Real History as most of them slept through that class anyways and was happy with the D- on their report card...

Climate change? The economy? Peak oil?
We are basically giving handguns to monkeys.
<hands his monkey a loaded handgun and then runs like hell>

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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Fri 24 Nov 2006, 20:52:59

Arguments please.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 08:17:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'T')o illustrate...close your eyes, turn off the TV, burn do not read newspapers and start consuming based on need and not desire. Would your reality change, would the illusion start to alter?

I have already done that years ago, and it doesn't change anything.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..the analogies between the ancient cradle civilizations are there for all to see.

They are limited and your thinking excludes the reality that people may get the same ideas even if they have never met.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd why do I dismiss the differences without any argument AW?
What differences are you talking about?

Example; both the Mayas and Egyptians made pyramids, but the purpose and final details are different. With your logic they are the same, it shows a complete lack of intellectual standards.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')onfirming the quantum reality that the observer affects what is being observed.

99.9999% of Quantum woos have no idea of what they are talking about.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 15:13:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', ' ') Example; both the Mayas and Egyptians made pyramids, but the purpose and final details are different. With your logic they are the same, it shows a complete lack of intellectual standards.
So please explain the differences you see AW. That would be the only way I could possibly respond.

A pyramid is a building with a specific shape that allows large buildings to be constructed with primitive means.

They differ in a lot of ways, material, purpose, timeframe. Also many cultures show a period of experimentation; this is easily seen with the Egyptian pyramids. This wouldn't have been seen if there was a common source.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', ' ') I keep getting the impression you want to argue AW so you can prove I am part of the 99.9999% belongiong to the woos who have no clue
You got it almost right, What I found out is that woos often use 'quantum' to make their stories sound better, but lack any true understanding.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby rogerhb » Tue 28 Nov 2006, 17:26:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'T')here are no links.


That is my opinion.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Tue 28 Nov 2006, 20:12:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '
')So if I could take the Judaic Solomon's Knot and within this knot show you how it becomes the Peruvian Chakana using blocks, or using triangles/pyramids it becomes Solomon's knot and then using circles it becomes the Greek Orthodox cross.

That is one of the flaws, when one starts to make their own changes they can turn it in almost anything.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 09:51:20

"Blinded by the light of truth they turn back unto the darkness"

illuminati vol 1 pt 6

random ranting zone - enter at your own risk.

A truth lay within a belief system.
It was perverted, a religion was organized around it and the masses controlled by it.

A cult of death.
Peak oil die off feeds right into this nicely.
Now they have a "reason".
A war - An army of scientists - A prison planet.

Driven to the point of complete unsustainability and completely addicted to that which kills us all.
The people are presented a FINAL SOLUTION......again.

Think about the Amish for a second please.
With the knowledge of peak oil one can easily see that their way of life is for the most part sustainable.
Now think about the amish when most people pass their buggies going 20 mph on the highway....."look at those funny amish people etc etc blah".................

Hmmm?
Who is smart?
Who is wise?

Knowing why they migrated to america and seeing their way of life one can easily see why any king/president/ruler would not desire such independent people.
Easy to see why they were demonized and persecuted.
Easy to see why hippies and peaceniks were demonized and persecuted.
Easy to see why people who think similarly receive much of the same kind of treatment.

Yeah "dont think outside the box"
"dont think for yourself"
"you are only one - what can you do?"
"all the wealth would fall right back into the same hands in one day after any redistribution of wealth"

blah blah blah......

Power is their rulers only god and fear is theirs......

Now consider the outside view of Peak Oil and what the world is doing about it versus what most of us here believe and believe must be done to mitigate the ramifications thereof.
Hmmm?

Now consider the average view of the Illuminati or the zionist etc etc....
Hmmm?

Now notice how alot of people are bothered enough to come into these threads and attempt to debunk/discredit or otherwise disrupt any flow of thought foreign to their mindset while also being incapable of any conductive or constructive thought on the subject.

Some come armed with thier opinions only while others bring a link or two with the expectation that we will all go "ah!"....

Notice how many avoid these subjects.
How would it mess with all the PO theories if indeed there was one master at the head of all of this chaotic madness....
Hmmm yes that is the real kicker.
The huge mental roadblock that says "dont go there" so most do not.

If this is reality and I think that it is then we have all been led down the road to over consumptious lifestyles by design.
We have been led to the brink by design.
We have been "ordered" to overpopulate and mass consume and we have followed our orders well Sir!!

We see this all the time - we see the design - little bits and pieces of it each and every day - yet most are unable to believe that the design is much more then a coincidence......
Like the war on the middle class......as if it is an accident.....
Like what seems to be a war on the environment......
Here is a splinter of their "logic" filtered down through all of us:

"It is "cheaper" and therefor "better" to throw it away and buy a new (name your widget) "

Random chance they call it and at night sleep well knowing that they are "right"..............

Anti depressants? who needs those when your mind is always doping itself.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 10:32:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')We have been "ordered" to overpopulate and mass consume and we have followed our orders well Sir!!

Ordered by human nature.
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Interesting Interview: Important

Unread postby Rob_0126 » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 00:02:06

I thought this might be a bit important to this entire community, if it hasn't been seen already: VIDEO$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Rockefeller Admitted Elite Goal Of Microchipped Population
Hollywood director Russo goes in-depth for first time on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, including his prediction of 9/11 and the war on terror hoax, the Rockefeller's creation of women's lib, and the elite's ultimate plan for world population reduction and a microchipped society by Paul Joseph Watson, Prison Planet, Monday, January 29, 2007:

Hollywood director and documentary film maker Aaron Russo has gone in-depth on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, who personally told him that the elite's ultimate goal was to create a microchipped population and that the war on terror was a hoax, Rockefeller having predicted an "event" that would trigger the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan eleven months before 9/11. ...
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Re: Interesting Interview: Important

Unread postby jboogy » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 01:04:03

I ain't buying it, it could all be true but one of the members saying it so bluntly to a potential recruit doesn't stand the sniff test.TPTB didn't amass all that power and wealth by glibly telling their secrets to someone simply because they like "the cut of their jib".
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