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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby Pretorian » Wed 15 Nov 2006, 04:46:49

hey guys why we dont make our own conspiracy group? We might not achieve a world domination but, it surely could help out in our usual errands.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby Cloud9 » Wed 15 Nov 2006, 08:26:07

You are right there was and is a Masonic conspiracy. That conspiracy was and is to promote the ideals of the enlightenment. During the time of monarchs we gave the founding fathers a concept of equality among men. We gave them experience in participatory government. We promoted the ideals of democracy. We champion virtue as the highest ideal. Washington and his fellow Masons prevented a military coup that would have established a monarchy in this country after the battle of Yorktown. In return for these services, our mark has been left on the geography of the nation’s capital and on the face of our currency. The average Mason in the United States is about 70 years old. Many lodges have difficulty finding enough viable members that can climb the stairs to open the lodges. We are an order steeped in ritual. Those that would tell you that they know the secrets of Free Masonry are at best the purveyors of children’s fairy tails and at worst liars. If you were ever able to eavesdrop on a lodge meeting you would find the ritual archaic and rather naive. The fears of us have been created by those with agendas to sell their books and promote their personal political fortunes. Relax, unless something is done. We will become extinct within a generation or two.

As an aside, If we run the world, I want to know why I cannot seem to pick a winning lottery ticket.

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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby Eli » Wed 15 Nov 2006, 11:18:56

Well call it what you will but PO is going to create an enormous amount of fear and uncertainty all around the globe.

The fear that will come about by all this economic and social turmoil will present a huge opportunity for the consolidation of power. People will gladdy trade their freedoms in return for just the appearance of stability. It has happened over and over again throughout history.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby NEOPO » Wed 15 Nov 2006, 18:00:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'Y')ou are right there was and is a Masonic conspiracy. That conspiracy was and is to promote the ideals of the enlightenment. During the time of monarchs we gave the founding fathers a concept of equality among men. We gave them experience in participatory government. We promoted the ideals of democracy. We champion virtue as the highest ideal. Washington and his fellow Masons prevented a military coup that would have established a monarchy in this country after the battle of Yorktown. In return for these services, our mark has been left on the geography of the nation’s capital and on the face of our currency. The average Mason in the United States is about 70 years old. Many lodges have difficulty finding enough viable members that can climb the stairs to open the lodges. We are an order steeped in ritual. Those that would tell you that they know the secrets of Free Masonry are at best the purveyors of children’s fairy tails and at worst liars. If you were ever able to eavesdrop on a lodge meeting you would find the ritual archaic and rather naive. The fears of us have been created by those with agendas to sell their books and promote their personal political fortunes. Relax, unless something is done. We will become extinct within a generation or two.

As an aside, If we run the world, I want to know why I cannot seem to pick a winning lottery ticket.

D.E. Cloud, Past Master Poinciana Lodge 227 Free And Accepted Masons


Yeah right - the masons were infiltrated along time ago and have been used to further the agenda and provide another skin to the onion.
The glove fit the hand very well indeed.

Maybe you will become extinct shortly but that will only be because this group is no longer needed and the goal has been accomplished which was the creation of a private central bank......

and this is how they did it:
MONEY MASTERS - HOW INTERNATIONAL BANKERS GAINED CONTROL OF AMERICA

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Give me the power to issue a nation's money; then I do not care who makes the law."
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby skiwi » Fri 17 Nov 2006, 09:27:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skiwi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', ' ')I think it's a little more than a bunch of rich guys trying to protect themselves.


Now what were these guys refering to ????????????

Quotes of Interest

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')I have been convinced that we, as an Order, have come under the power of some very evil occult Order, profoundly versed in science both occult and otherwise, though not infallible, their methods being BLACK MAGIC, that is to say, electro-magnetic power, hypnotism and powerful suggestion. We are convinced that the Order is being controlled by some Sun Order, after the nature of the Illuminati, if not by that Order itself”

The Duke of Brunswick (Grand Master of World Freemasonry, 1700s)

“We form an association of brothers in all points of the globe…Yet there is one unseen that can hardly be felt, yet it weighs on us. Whence comes it? Where is it? No one knows…or at least no one tells. This association is secret even to us the veterans of the Secret Societies”

Guiseppe Mazzini (Head of the Bavarian Illuminati 1800s. Successor to Weishaupt)


No answers to my question?

I posted this once before but for those that missed it

Slavery and the eight veils

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he fourth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fourth veil to discover the Illuminati, Freemasonry and the other secret societies. These societies use symbols and perform ceremonies that perpetuate the generational transfers of arcane knowledge that is used to keep the ordinary people in political, economic and spiritual bondage to the oldest bloodlines on earth. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fifth veil.
Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked; to be remembered in the earth.
We have tried with our first creatures but we could not make them venerate us.
So let us try to make obedient respectful beings who shall
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby mmasters » Fri 17 Nov 2006, 12:44:43

Hmm, you know I think they're referring to private groups of bankers. The illuminati/masons and bankers were seperate groups at that time with sometimes competing interests. The banking groups have always been the most powerful of all secret groups.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby Revi » Fri 17 Nov 2006, 14:17:33

Or could it be the Pilgrim's society. They are the ones who really run things!

http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/organis ... ociety.htm
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Fri 17 Nov 2006, 19:52:59

Your problem, Masons weren't around when Solomon's Temple was constructed.

Such impossible parts reduce most conspiracy theories into comedy material.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby TheDude » Sat 18 Nov 2006, 17:28:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'f')nord


You just can't see.

Admittedly I couldn't make much out of that, either...perhaps Raphael is part of a conspiracy to Dis-Illuminate Illumination? Proof - I am reading Icke's book The Biggest Secret and it's a solid page-turner!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'T')hose that follow HIStory are bound to repeat the Ziegfield / Zion follies.


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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby Gridlock » Sat 18 Nov 2006, 18:01:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am reading Icke's book The Biggest Secret and it's a solid page-turner!


Does he say much about positioning at free kicks or dealing with crosses?
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Sat 18 Nov 2006, 18:29:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'I') suggest you google freemasonry and solomon's temple before suggesting the 'masons' weren't around.

Didn't find any reliable source or hard evidence.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') stress metaphorical.

Does the 'metaphorical' temple exist?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ho were the builders of this sacred temple that supposedly really did exist, not unlike the mythical Atlantis and Mt. Meru?

Yes, Atlantis a nice story.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ho in your HIStory book suggests built this Temple?

Jews.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby TheDude » Sun 19 Nov 2006, 02:47:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gridlock', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am reading Icke's book The Biggest Secret and it's a solid page-turner!


Does he say much about positioning at free kicks or dealing with crosses?


Ya know, that's a good point, is football rife with Masonic symbolism? What kind of angles are formed from a field, did temples for Moloch have eyes in the shape of a goal?
Creepy! Perhaps professional sports shapes act as fnords, ala They Live's subliminal messages.
Watched JFK last night and I read how it has a few half second subliminal bits as well. Maybe he slipped in something about Oscar nominations.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Sun 19 Nov 2006, 13:55:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', ' ')
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ho in your HIStory book suggests built this Temple?

Jews.

So your HIStory book therefore defaults back to the Torah.

It has been shown that the Jews were in control of that area at that time and have used that temple. So it only logical that they build it.
Or are you claiming that they were never there?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')olomon's Temple not unlike Atlantis and Mt. Meru are archetypes that suggest we evolve toward a goal.

So where can I see Atlantis?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he structure of these ancient sacred places suggest these places exist in the collective unconscious and it is demonstrated by comparing cultural motifs.
The cultural links are flimsy at best. I can take a stronger example; pyramids. In your reasoning the Mayans and the Egyptians were connected. While it would be more likely that they independently came to the same conclusion. With pyramids one can make very large structures.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')o to this site:
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You decide if there exists a sequential pattern
No, I just see unsupported babble.
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby Revi » Sun 19 Nov 2006, 23:21:03

The second layer of the onion is the Pilgrim's society. Here is some info for you to chew on. The CFR is the Council on Foreign Relations. This is from the website cited below:

"I remember looking at an old documentary about the CFR "master conspiracy". The usual stuff came by; banking, the Illuminati and the dollar bill. At the end they showed these concentric rings, indicating the CFR had unknown inner circles. Guess we can now say for sure what the second circle is, counting from the outside. It's the Pilgrims Society and it undeniably shows the close link between American and British foreign policy."

Here's a great website on the Pilgrims, check it out:

http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/organis ... ociety.htm
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Re: Illuminati

Unread postby AWPrime » Mon 20 Nov 2006, 15:22:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', ' ')
No, I just see unsupported babble.

Which Tarot deck did you use for the comparisons?

I IDed it as Babble in a very short time.

One clue: Tarot didn't exist until they were invented in the Middle Ages.
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