[legit]

In Britain people are just as concerned with SUV's being deadly when they hit a pedestrian as pollution and excessive oil use. You can get big cars with reasonable mileage. Citroen xm that came out in 89' get's 30mpg and is a luxury car with loads of space

[ALBY]

Or, like low tar cigarettes, LEV's can be a slightly less lethal alternative that ENABLE the consumer to engage in self destructive behavior they really ought to change, and would, were it not for the apparent 'safety' of the alternative.

Look CARVER, have fun driving your LEV. It's not a bad choice. But in reality, is it any better than choosing an SUV ? Don't pretend that the wisdom in your 'consumer' choice is somehow self evident. it is not.

[evilmonkeyspanker]

Okay I am confused so EC is a girl... but girls have cooties

[CARVER]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ALBY', 'O')r, like low tar cigarettes, LEV's can be a slightly less lethal alternative that ENABLE the consumer to engage in self destructive behavior they really ought to change, and would, were it not for the apparent 'safety' of the alternative.
Look CARVER, have fun driving your LEV. It's not a bad choice. But in reality, is it any better than choosing an SUV ? Don't pretend that the wisdom in your 'consumer' choice is somehow self evident. it is not.

[3rensho]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'O')f course they couldn't rid the world of violence. They were killed, except of Ghandi. But they taught us how and look and how we received their message.

[ALBY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3rensho', '[')And anyone espousing India as a peaceful country has no knowledge of India what so ever. Maybe Pakistan and Bangladesh were founded with good will and free lollipops?
I'm sure the daily artillery bombardments in Kashimir are really just people air dropping flowers.
I guess the other man's grass is really greener if you close your eyes enough and squint just so.

[EnemyCombatant]

You people don't get it.
I was referring to Ghandi, not the Indian people.
You see, people all across the world are the same. We are savages. I was pointing out there were a few anomalies amongst us. Namely, MLK, Ghandi and Jesus. You can add to this list.
Despite MLK being Black, Blacks are no more humane than Whites or Indians. I have a beef with all people on this planet.

[3rensho]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'Y')ou people don't get it.
I was referring to Ghandi, not the Indian people.
You see, people all across the world are the same. We are savages. I was pointing out there were a few anomalies amongst us. Namely, MLK, Ghandi and Jesus. You can add to this list.
Despite MLK being Black, Blacks are no more humane than Whites or Indians. I have a beef with all people on this planet.

[EnemyCombatant]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') still contend that you are looking at the world through rose colored glasses. Jesus, Ghandi and MLK Jr. all behaved just as savagely as any other men. Jesus committed violence against the money lenders in the temple. Ghandi and his followers fomented violence against muslims. MLK Jr. was in bed with the Nation of Islam and a known womanizer.

[gary_malcolm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3rensho', 'G')handi and his followers fomented violence against muslims...
MLK Jr. was in bed with the Nation of Islam and a known womanizer...
I'm sure my cynicism is a bit harsh for the idealists...
I now return you to your regularly scheduled hippy love in.

[Liamj]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gary_malcolm', 'I')'d like them better if they lit campfires underneath the gas tanks. Ah well, I still need to start my own chapter ;7)
I especially like the smearing of mud on the car doors... If you can't bring the SUV to the off-roading bring the off-roading to the SUV.

[marko]

There was a period back in the late 90s when some people were vandalizing SUVs in southern California. There was also a movement around then to plaster them with bumper stickers saying something like "I'm changing the global climate. Ask me how."

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'L')astly, I am not a hippie. Can't you tell that I don't like people. I don't want to buy the world and coke and keep them company.

[3rensho]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gary_malcolm', 'J')ehezzus H KeerIEST! You, sir, are an A#1 ass (unvarnished).
Do you realize you are bad mouthing people whose boots you are unworthy to lick? Just because modern audiences have given over to Rash Limburgher like shock attacks does not mean that your paultry imitation in anyway limits the depths to which my opinion of you now sinks. Everything else you will ever write on this forum must be colored by the idiocy which you have unleashed.
Wisdom lies in keeping our mouths shut about subjects broader than our individual ability to comprehend.
Weak.

[3rensho]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'G')ive me a break. If you can't seperate the messege from the messenger then that is evident of our problem. I am well aware of the sins of these men, but to throw the baby out with the bathwater is a cop out. Why can't we take these teachings and run with them. Why do we have to revoke MLK because he was horny? I am not aware of any dealings with the Nation of Islam. But realize that in time, even Malcolm figured them out. ... I am aware of your points, yet I still look at the teachings of these 3 men. They are beautiful, yet we disregard them because of the human flaws in the messengers. That's not right.

[ALBY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3rensho', 'A')n example, gary_malcom would never say what he said in his previous post to me in person. There are several reasons some of them cultural, some of them psychological. His relative anonimity and the safety of distance the internet has given him allows him to be rude and uncouth. In his daily encounters he is probably a normal guy like anyone else. He acts out rashly because he is potentially thousands of miles away saying things to an individual he will most likely never meet in person.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

SHREVEPORT, La. -- General Motors Corp. said Thursday that it will invest about $20 million at its Shreveport assembly plant to increase production of the Hummer H3 and Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon pickup trucks.
The company also said the increased production will require the addition of a third shift to its paint department during the first quarter of 2006.
The assembly plant currently has about 3,200 employees.
The H3 was released to the market in mid-May. GM has said it hopes to sell 20,000 to 30,000 of the vehicles by the end of the year.

[BabyPeanut]

that smaller Hummer will fix everything

[rockdoc123]

Interestingly enough althougth the thing is damned ugly according to the manufacturer it gets mileage that is as good as most large to mid-size cars. I think it has a five cylinder engine whereas all of the nasty big SUVs have six and eight cylinders. So in terms of guzzling gas it probably isn't much worse than your neighbours Saturn. That being said it is an eye sore and given it's height to width ratio is likely an accident waiting to happen.

[BabyPeanut]

Hummer H3 4WD 5 cyl, 3.5 L, Auto(4), Regular
16 mpg city 19 mpg highway
vs.
Saturn Vue SUV FWD 4 cyl, 2.2 L, Auto(4), Regular
22 mpg city 27 mpg highway
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