[PenultimateManStanding]

In California, about 1 in 5 cars are uninsured. The numbers are currently rising. Even if they could impound all those millions of cars, the economy would collapse. Plus, those MPG-900 systems cost 20 grand apiece. That's a lot of bread for a bankrupt system to fork out. I think we've passed Peak Tech. Robo Cop is an idea that came and went.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')n California, about 1 in 5 cars are uninsured. The numbers are currently rising. Even if they could impound all those millions of cars, the economy would collapse. Plus, those MPG-900 systems cost 20 grand apiece. That's a lot of bread for a bankrupt system to fork out. I think we've passed Peak Tech. Robo Cop is an idea that came and went.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'R')ush was using Oxy at the same time he was getting on his moral high horse. Obama, Clinton, and Bush were basically kids going through a phase. In Bush's case, a quite prolonged adolescence.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', ' ')After all, no car - no job. Judge, go lock me up for awhile.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', ' ')After all, no car - no job. Judge, go lock me up for awhile.

[Alcassin]

'War on Homelessness'

I think you will like it RE

[deMolay]

AuntieDoomer, it was Clinton that deregulated the Banks and allowed the derivatives. It was Clinton that rejigged Fannie and Freddie so everyone who could not afford a home got one. So yah you are right it was 8 years from the end of Clinton until Obama took over and he has printed more money in a few months, than all Presidents from Geo. Washington to Bush. I don't see it as left or right. Obama is a fool. Obama is destroying the USA faster than anyone could have dreamed. The Obamavilles are his. He has just gotten started. He is just as big a warmonger as Bush was, and is ramping her up right now with PAAKistan. So don't be fooled by the left/right thing. It is an abuse of power thing.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Think about it for a moment: when you drive home on the freeway, how many cars do you see? Thousands. Of them there are hundreds and hundreds driving with no insurance. That's anywhere up and down the land. Suppose you are a California Highway Patrol Officer and you happen to be in one of the patrol cars with MPG-900. Your system will be beeping like crazy: beep beep beep beep beep beep beep. Uninsured motorist beeps will drown out the stolen car beeps. What's the priority? Stolen cars, that's the priority. Crime scene cars, too. They'll probably all come to the same conclusion, dump the uninsured motorist notices, turn it off, catch the car thieves and bank robbers.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('anador', 'T')here have been some rumblings in the metro miami area recently.

A group of vigilantes apparently have been resettling foreclosed families into foreclosed and abandoned properties.

There are many benefits, they keep the neighborhood neat, and well kept. The houses being occupied makes the area safer than a street of abandoned houses.

The police have said they cannot and will not act unless banks make specific complaints on specific properties.

The banks never send anyone out after the initial foreclosure until the eventual auction, which are now indefinitely postponed more often than not.

So the effect is, less families on the streets.

This doesn't really relate to a post peak scenario, except that as things fall apart, the over built glut of housing stock will be less and less monitored, until it becomes very easy for anyone to live in a house, they just won't own it.

[ReverseEngineer]

It appears at least some of our Goobermint Congressmen have the right idea here:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U').S. Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D., Toledo) is advocating homeowners threatened with foreclosure exercise squatter's rights in trying to stave off the loss of their house.

"I'm saying to them possession is 99 percent of the law; you stay in your house," Miss Kaptur said yesterday, continuing a crusade she started several weeks ago in Congress and CNN picked up Thursday night.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

So they come in and kick you out... move back in. After a while they will get tired and lock you up, at which point, when you get out, move back in. Sometimes there are some lessons you just have to keep reinforcing.

Personally, if they are displaced because of economic situations and will keep themselves and their "area" clean, I say let em at it. In Canada we used to have squatters rights which meant that you could sit on crown land and if no one cared for ten years, then it was yours. That changed in the 70's or something but it needs to be brought back.

These squatters need to get smarter and do the camo bit. If they weren't such an eyesore, they'd get a whole lot less notice, attention and finally fuss made over their situation. I think part of it has to do with availability, I don't think there are a lot of bushes they can hide in or behind, but they have to be more proactive and less "hey look at me down on my luck" hoping someone will come and save them.

I would never walk away without my tent et al leaving it to be bull dozed. I'd say, go ahead doze me, but I am not leaving my belongings behind. You can wait the 5or 6 minutes it will take to pack it up. Talk about indignity eh?

[MarkJ]

Many local homeowners facing foreclosure leave voluntarily, or they're forced to leave due to electric/gas disconnection, water disconnection, delinquent property taxes, or blight/safety/health code enforcement violations.

Neighbors, police departments, fire departmnets and code enforcement departments do a decent job of preventing squatters, removing squatters and/or arresting squatters.

The Neighborhood Stabilization Funding and demolition budget money used to demolish many vacant, abandoned and condemned structures eliminates many of the structures used by squatters, serial homeless, drug dealers, vandals etc.

Many squatters don't necessarily want to draw attention to themselves since they're in possession of drugs and/or they have outstanding warrants. When they squat in properties with no running water, no electric and no heat, they face numerous health and safety issues as well. One of the greatest risks is the danger of being assaulted by other squatters since many homeless people are criminals, desperate, mentally ill or have drug and alcohol problems.

Most employment/income/savings/asset challenged people qualify for emergency housing and numerous pubic assistance benefits, so squatting isn't necessary. Living in a motel, hotel, shelter or slumlord apartment while on a waiting list for subsidized housing or subsidized apartments beats living on the streets, or in a structure with no electric, water, sewer, heat or hot water.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MarkJ', 'M')any local homeowners facing foreclosure leave voluntarily, or they're forced to leave due to electric/gas disconnection, water disconnection, delinquent property taxes, or blight/safety/health code enforcement violations.

Neighbors, police departments, fire departmnets and code enforcement departments do a decent job of preventing squatters, removing squatters and/or arresting squatters.

The Neighborhood Stabilization Funding and demolition budget money used to demolish many vacant, abandoned and condemned structures eliminates many of the structures used by squatters, serial homeless, drug dealers, vandals etc.

Many squatters don't necessarily want to draw attention to themselves since they're in possession of drugs and/or they have outstanding warrants. When they squat in properties with no running water, no electric and no heat, they face numerous health and safety issues as well. One of the greatest risks is the danger of being assaulted by other squatters since many homeless people are criminals, desperate, mentally ill or have drug and alcohol problems.

Most employment/income/savings/asset challenged people qualify for emergency housing and numerous pubic assistance benefits, so squatting isn't necessary. Living in a motel, hotel, shelter or slumlord apartment while on a waiting list for subsidized housing or subsidized apartments beats living on the streets, or in a structure with no electric, water, sewer, heat or hot water.

[deMolay]

This is a good story and a lesson to us all. http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Columnists/Hanon_Andrew/2009/04/02/8971936.html

[MarkJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')
Mark, you are describing life in 2005, not life in 2010. You are stuck in a time warp here. Obviously from the articles you read police are NOT removing the squatters, and beyond that people AREN'T going to get public assisstance benefits to drop them into subsidized housing, which does not exist in sufficient volume to handle all the displaced people involved here.

[MarkJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')
If they 'can't' afford auto insurance, they sure ain't gonna pay them fines. After all, no car - no job. Judge, go lock me up for awhile.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MarkJ', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')
If they 'can't' afford auto insurance, they sure ain't gonna pay them fines. After all, no car - no job. Judge, go lock me up for awhile.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '
')Even if they could impound all those millions of cars, the economy would collapse.

[MarkJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')
They just go out and buy another beater and never transfer the title.