[bratticus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'I') have a theory about this reason why. Those of us who were pioneers about understanding peak oil felt that this knowledge somehow made us exempt and immunized to the consequences.

[diemos]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Pull down your pants and bend over and humble yourselves with the masses around you and accept the SPANKING that is your due just like everyone else who will have to suffer this transition.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bratticus', ' ')some of us are still experimenting with concepts in an effort to get a grip on what's around the corner.

[Revi]

I think knowing about peak oil for so long has made me much more religious. I am a Christian, and I can see no way that we can be ready for what's coming. We'll have to live one day at a time. I'm not saying not to prepare, but know that whatever we do it may not work. The point is not to be the last man standing or whatever. The point is to live with grace in this world.

The transition is toward a new way of being. Transition is teaching kids to work a woodlot. To make them aware of their surroundings instead of the culture that is being sold to them that glorifies fossil fuels, drugs and death. They are going to be living into the future. We may not make it. They are the ones who will have to deal with the reality. We may have to suffer a little while, then pack it in when it gets nasty, but they are going to have to keep the ship afloat. These escalating cycles of recession are going to take away the illusions of cars, consumer culture and the like anyway. Here in Maine we'll be left with water, woods and winter. We had better learn to make them work for us again.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I') think knowing about peak oil for so long has made me much more religious. I am a Christian, and I can see no way that we can be ready for what's coming. We'll have to live one day at a time. I'm not saying not to prepare, but know that whatever we do it may not work. The point is not to be the last man standing or whatever. The point is to live with grace in this world.

The transition is toward a new way of being. Transition is teaching kids to work a woodlot. To make them aware of their surroundings instead of the culture that is being sold to them that glorifies fossil fuels, drugs and death. They are going to be living into the future. We may not make it. They are the ones who will have to deal with the reality. We may have to suffer a little while, then pack it in when it gets nasty, but they are going to have to keep the ship afloat. These escalating cycles of recession are going to take away the illusions of cars, consumer culture and the like anyway. Here in Maine we'll be left with water, woods and winter. We had better learn to make them work for us again.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('diemos', '
')Anyone who thinks that they are going to virtuously prepare for what's coming and thus escape any of the consequences is living in a fantasy world. Your fellow humans will see to it that the pain is shared.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')
To a certain extent, I agree, but also, I think those who don't prepare, those who, you know, scoffed at Noah and his ark, would LIKE to think that when their faith in BAU is revealed to them as a mortal error, that Noah will be dragged down with them. You see what I mean? It goes both ways. Noah wants to save himself to validate his Cassandra-ism and those who put all their chips on BAU don't want to watch Noah sail away unscathed with a smug look on his face.

The truth is somewhere in the middle. Those who prep ARE in a better situation for having done so, but are not invulnerable.