[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wxman', 'F')ederal employment as a % of the population has been falling for 40+ years. The real increases in budgets and employment have been at the state and local levels, but they aren't as easy of a target as the big, bad feds.

[gollum]

Alex, while I agree with a lot of what you say in principal, during the eight years the republicans had in power they didn't do any better.

[mcgowanjm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wxman', 'F')ederal employment as a % of the population has been falling for 40+ years. The real increases in budgets and employment have been at the state and local levels, but they aren't as easy of a target as the big, bad feds.

[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', '[')b]Federal Pay Continues Rapid Ascent
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/08/24/federal-pay-continues-rapid-ascent/



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That's pretty interesting, it seems most of the problem happened in the Bush years.

[gollum]

Bush and his administration were not conservatives and grew the government and helped get us in the mess we are in now. That is why the Republicans were rejected on the basis of "Hope & Change."[/quote]


Thats why I started voting third party several elections ago.

[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'A')lex, while I agree with a lot of what you say in principal, during the eight years the republicans had in power they didn't do any better.

[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'B')ush and his administration were not conservatives and grew the government and helped get us in the mess we are in now. That is why the Republicans were rejected on the basis of "Hope & Change."

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Olaf', '.').. the federal government is currently intentionally trying to create jobs to make up for ones lost in the private sector....

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'B')ush and his administration were not conservatives and grew the government and helped get us in the mess we are in now. That is why the Republicans were rejected on the basis of "Hope & Change."

[Olaf]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'B')ush and his administration were not conservatives and grew the government and helped get us in the mess we are in now. That is why the Republicans were rejected on the basis of "Hope & Change."

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '
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After the republicans 2 losing and one needless war, record deficits, huge growth in government, and garbage like the patriot act and no child left behind I will never in my life vote for another republican!

[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'A')fter the republicans 2 losing and one needless war, record deficits, huge growth in government, and garbage like the patriot act and no child left behind I will never in my life vote for another republican!

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'Y')ou must very happy then that Obama is president and the dems control the government, since he has just escalated the needless war in Afghanistan, created a deficit 3 times bigger then any during Bush's years, called for re-upping the Patriot act, and presided over the loss of 4 million jobs and record poverty and unemployment rates.

[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')I expected better of republicans

[Olaf]

Elected republicans care about as much for conservative ideals as democrats care about progressive or liberal ideals.

It is all just a bunch of talking out of both sides of their mouths.

If I had a nickel for every Christian conservative busted in a sex scandal or a liberal busted with their hand in the corporate pocket, I'd be a very rich man myself.

Olaf

[PrestonSturges]

The GOP, tea parties, and libertarians all suffer from the same 3 problems:

1) They push a ruthlessly corporate agenda, whether as the result of lobbyist payoffs or Fox indoctrination.
2) A world view based almost entirely conspiracy theories
2) Their loudest voices look dangerously insane to the rest of us

[AlexdeLarge]

And The Democrats suffer from..........

The Class War: Public Employees vs. the Rest of Us
http://reason.com/blog/2009/12/11/the-class-war-public-employees

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ick Gillespie pointed earlier to the latest evidence that federal workers have long since lapped their private sector benefactors in salary and job growth, in addition to their traditional advantages in job security and benefits. (Fun fact! Back in February 2008, before Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, and George W. Bush's disaster socialism, The New York Times reported that Dubya was "in line to be the first president since World War II to preside over an economy in which federal government employment rose more rapidly than employment in the private sector.")

Here's an anecdotal sign that conventional wisdom is turning against those who are using the guaranteed revenue stream of tax dollars to pad their paychecks and pensions: A scathing piece from L.A. Times metro columnist Steve Lopez. Excerpt:

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', 'A')nd The Democrats suffer from..........

[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', 'A')nd The Democrats suffer from..........

[Chuckmak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', '[')b]For feds, more get 6-figure salaries
link

Average pay $30,000 over private sector !!!!!!!$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he number of federal workers earning six-figure salaries has exploded during the recession, according to a USA TODAY analysis of federal salary data.

Federal employees making salaries of $100,000 or more jumped from 14% to 19% of civil servants during the recession's first 18 months — and that's before overtime pay and bonuses are counted.

Federal workers are enjoying an extraordinary boom time — in pay and hiring — during a recession that has cost 7.3 million jobs in the private sector.