[GHung]

@copious.abundance: People don't continuously attack other people's views, concepts and conclusions unless they consider those ideas a threat. It's either that or pure malice. Which is it? In your case, I'll accept that it's malice, but some others are clearly threatened.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GHung', '@')copious.abundance: People don't continuously attack other people's views, concepts and conclusions unless they consider those ideas a threat. It's either that or pure malice. Which is it? In your case, I'll accept that it's malice, but some others are clearly threatened.

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GHung', '
')You guys that assert that so-called doomers have faded into the wilderness while breaking all social ties and becoming "loners" are certainly guilty of stereotyping.

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeterEV', 'F')ast forward to the past few years. The Nisaan Leaf has less range than either the EV1 or the RAV4E. Yet the Leaf is treated more kindy in the press. The Tesla Model S walks on water with Road & Track ( a reknown EV hater) and gets close to a perfect score of 100 with Consumer Reports.

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeterEV', 'F')ast forward to the past few years. The Nisaan Leaf has less range than either the EV1 or the RAV4E. Yet the Leaf is treated more kindy in the press. The Tesla Model S walks on water with Road & Track ( a reknown EV hater) and gets close to a perfect score of 100 with Consumer Reports.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GHung', '@')copious.abundance: People don't continuously attack other people's views, concepts and conclusions unless they consider those ideas a threat.

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'W')ould Copious Abundance venture to share with us why he feels this disdain toward doomers?

[GregT]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('copious.abundance', '
')If you consider mocking/ridiculing someone's views for the entertainment value to be a case of "malice," then that's me.

[GregT]

Also,

Psychiatrists and psychologists have been studying this subject for ever. Dredd supplied a link yesterday to a post he made here: http://powertoxins.blogspot.ca/2015/08/ ... hange.html

Of particular interest to me is a book made available online by Bob Altemeyer, who is Associate Professor in the Department of Psychology at the University of Manitoba in Winnipeg.

The link to his book can be found here:
http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/dr ... arians.pdf

Thanks again for the links Dredd, and the insight.

[onlooker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('copious.abundance', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'W')ould Copious Abundance venture to share with us why he feels this disdain toward doomers?

[GregT]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'I')n fact Erlich and Malthus are right in that we have a planet now in extreme overshoot and are now faced with a nightmare scenario of overpopulation coupled with dwindling resources.

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GregT', '[')b]5 reasons those who mock and humiliate you are mentally unstable

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'I')n fact Erlich and Malthus are right in that we have a planet now in extreme overshoot and are now faced with a nightmare scenario of overpopulation coupled with dwindling resources.

[GregT]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('copious.abundance', '
')If you consider mocking/ridiculing someone's views for the entertainment value to be a case of "malice," then that's me.

[onlooker]

Copious, I will make an analogy. You believe in death I assume. Why? Because you know that humans die from books, word of mouth, your understanding of biology perhaps even saw a corpse. Yet that does not necessarily prove you are going to die does it? One can always refute anything if the attitude is "anything" can happen. Yet we do not live that way in real life. We do not jump off buildings on the premise that "anything" can happen. So it is with the trajectory we are on. All the trend lines point towards collapse. Yet world civilization has never collapsed so right there deniers have sufficient basis to utter their claims. Along with the "anything" can happen argument. Yet if detailed analysis is pointing us doomers to make the argument that collapse is going to happen it is precisely because this analysis in an empirical and carefully studied way points to this conclusion. Can we say for certain NO, but we can say with a high degree of probability. So what is your basis for refuting us other than well nobody can know for sure and so far nothing too bad has happened?

[Hawkcreek]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Apneaman', 'I') figured it out. When you are unlearned and poorly read, of course one will always revert to the couple of topics they are deeply emotionally attached to. It's understandable considering the state of public schooling in the last 50 years. Nothing but emotional coddling and rampant positivism passed down from one generation to the next with each one becoming more isolated from critical thinking skills and the ability to ponder new ideas or contemplate anything at depth. It's not everyone here, but there is a core group safely hiding out here, reinforcing it just like the system they were indoctrinated in. Of course you're trapped for life. It's not like you live in wealthy country with public libraries that give you free accesses to millions of dollars of books or have some kind of electronic portal to the collective knowledge and ideas of the entirety of recorded civilization (including translations) at your finger tips. Golly, if we had access to that much knowledge and ideas we would no longer have the excuse to instantly revert to the same 5 ideas that have nothing to do with the question posed.

[onlooker]

I see Pstar. So now he seems dedicated to proving that the US economy is hunky dory and nothing to fret about. Seems to be another futile crusade on his part. Does he not get tired of being a joke on this site.

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'A')ll the trend lines point towards collapse. Yet world civilization has never collapsed so right there deniers have sufficient basis to utter their claims. Along with the "anything" can happen argument. Yet if detailed analysis is pointing us doomers to make the argument that collapse is going to happen it is precisely because this analysis in an empirical and carefully studied way points to this conclusion. Can we say for certain NO, but we can say with a high degree of probability. So what is your basis for refuting us other than well nobody can know for sure and so far nothing too bad has happened?