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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby rwwff » Fri 11 Aug 2006, 11:05:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', 'O')h but he does know, because limbaugh&co. told him so...


While I do think he has the best voice for radio out there, I rarely listen to any talk radio; and that includes Limbaugh. I'm just not in the car during those times of day, and I don't get very good AM radio reception at the house.

You honestly think a radical anti-war platform will lead to a Democratic victory in 2006??? [It'd be awesome if you're right, but I think you've missed the mark by a mile.]
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby TITAN » Fri 11 Aug 2006, 16:41:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', 'O')h but he does know, because limbaugh&co. told him so...



You honestly think a radical anti-war platform will lead to a Democratic victory in 2006??? [It'd be awesome if you're right, but I think you've missed the mark by a mile.]



There will be no victory by the Dems as long as the administration keeps creating these 'thwarted just in time' false terror plots and keeps telling the media to use scare tactics and fear mongering...
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 11 Aug 2006, 17:12:54

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You honestly think a radical anti-war platform will lead to a Democratic victory in 2006??? [It'd be awesome if you're right, but I think you've missed the mark by a mile.]


Really? Even though 60% of Americans are against the war in Iraq? Why would they be in favor of other wars?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/09/iraq.poll/index.html
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby rwwff » Fri 11 Aug 2006, 17:46:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'Y')ou honestly think a radical anti-war platform will lead to a Democratic victory in 2006??? [It'd be awesome if you're right, but I think you've missed the mark by a mile.]

Really? Even though 60% of Americans are against the war in Iraq? Why would they be in favor of other wars?


You aren't going to like this, but I know enough of these people to note... They are opposed to the war in Iraq because Bagdad is still standing. From their eyes, for a brief, shining moment, they thought they had elected a Ceaser who would wage real war on their behalf, and deliver their rage into the heart of the beast. Instead, they got a pansie, nation building excercise.

Disappointment of these folks, leads to numbers as above. 40% democrat core, split the middle 15%, then snip off 15% from the far right who are horribly disappointed that we did not blow up more stuff.
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby Chicagoan » Fri 11 Aug 2006, 20:41:51

Here is his warning on youtube. This is very, very serious.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zAHqSfDNjaI
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 11 Aug 2006, 21:07:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'Y')ou aren't going to like this, but I know enough of these people to note...


Wow, you know 60% of Americans? That's amazing.
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby rwwff » Fri 11 Aug 2006, 21:19:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'Y')ou aren't going to like this, but I know enough of these people to note...

Wow, you know 60% of Americans? That's amazing.

I hope you're just teasing me.

Of course not. I know a fair sampling of that little slice on the far right.
On issues like this, its always fair to take the 40% core democrat lump and put them opposite the pres. Its reasonably fair to say half the "middle" is against the pres on any particular issue.

The only question that is interesting, is who are these extra 10-15% ? I think I know who they are, and I explained who I think they are, and why I think they are the way they are.

oh... got Jeavons' "Hot to grow..." book, from the links on your sig. There be good stuff in there. Useful tables that don't assume everyone lives in zone 6, or California Still not sure how to go about using it on a 20 acre field, but one step at a time.
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby MountainHiker » Sat 12 Aug 2006, 11:07:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MountainHiker', 'T')he reality is, the crotch you're pulled from makes more difference than your abilities.

As it has always been, and as it will always be.


I'm certain the folks who supported slavery in antebellum America used this same argument.

Plus, it looks like more and more people are doubting the recent London terr'rist plot. I've started noticing that anymore these terrorist plots have a big blow out at first with fear escalating and the usual suspects saying nuke the Middle East. Then as the truth starts filtering out and the pieces of the original story don't fit together quit as well, the story drifts off to the back pages and disappears.

The one thing I always consider in any kind of so-called terrorist action or plot is: who gains? So often it's not the terrorist or what they stand for.
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby rwwff » Sat 12 Aug 2006, 12:35:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MountainHiker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MountainHiker', 'T')he reality is, the crotch you're pulled from makes more difference than your abilities.

As it has always been, and as it will always be.

I'm certain the folks who supported slavery in antebellum America used this same argument.


And as vile as that time was, the statement remains true. Those with power and prestige before the war were able to rapidly recover and so to with them, their kids; those without, unless they came with a LOT of money from the North, were not.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')ogether quit as well, the story drifts off to the back pages and disappears.


Unless it goes boom, its a one day kind of story, regardless of whether it is conspiracy, terrorism, or just stupid teenagers.
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby eric_b » Sat 12 Aug 2006, 14:24:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicagoan', 'W')hat people have to realize is that both parties are owned by the same people. They are both new world order. Clinton had his false flag operations as well such as Oklahoma City and the first World Trade Center bombing. The rabbit hole goes very deep if you do some research. You can watch terror storm online, which outlines the history of government sponsored terror other then 9-11. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9497686216

You can read "The Police State Roadmap" an excellent introduction to the new world order here: http://www.policestateplanning.com/id19.htm


Those are some good links, Chicaoan.

While I sometimes think Jones is a little cheesy, the terrorstorm documentary was excellent. The information on false flags ops, especially the London 7-7 bombings was an eye opener. What worries we me most is now that many of these things are commonly known 'open secrets' most people just don't care. Apathy is one of the largest obstacles to any sort of action.

The police state roadmap was interesting. Solidly written and well referenced. It was large so I skimmed parts of it. The first few chapters should be required reading. The creation of the central bank and the federal reserve 'system' from the enormous wealth and power of a few 'families' during the early 20th century helps to put the racket in perspective. It's interesting to note that some of these huge concentrations of wealth (Rockefellers) were made possible by the huge concentrations of energy found in oil and hydrocarbons. The fact the Rothschild's may have > $100 trillion in 'privately held assets' was also noteworthy. The entire concept of wealth and power is an interesting one. Most people don't question it, but many aspects of it are completely arbitrary.

The secrecy behind many of these groups is also worrisome. Indeed power does corrupt.

I don't agree with all aspects of Nield's thesis. I think the Earth does indeed have a 'carrying capacity', and I do feel that there's something to global warming. However, separating the wheat from the chaff, there's much interesting information in Nied's PDF for those interested in the NWO.
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 12 Aug 2006, 20:04:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eric_b', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicagoan', 'W')hat people have to realize is that both parties are owned by the same people. They are both new world order. Clinton had his false flag operations as well such as Oklahoma City and the first World Trade Center bombing. The rabbit hole goes very deep if you do some research. You can watch terror storm online, which outlines the history of government sponsored terror other then 9-11. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9497686216

You can read "The Police State Roadmap" an excellent introduction to the new world order here: http://www.policestateplanning.com/id19.htm


Those are some good links, Chicaoan.

While I sometimes think Jones is a little cheesy, the terrorstorm documentary was excellent. The information on false flags ops, especially the London 7-7 bombings was an eye opener. What worries we me most is now that many of these things are commonly known 'open secrets' most people just don't care. Apathy is one of the largest obstacles to any sort of action.

The police state roadmap was interesting. Solidly written and well referenced. It was large so I skimmed parts of it. The first few chapters should be required reading. The creation of the central bank and the federal reserve 'system' from the enormous wealth and power of a few 'families' during the early 20th century helps to put the racket in perspective. It's interesting to note that some of these huge concentrations of wealth (Rockefellers) were made possible by the huge concentrations of energy found in oil and hydrocarbons. The fact the Rothschild's may have > $100 trillion in 'privately held assets' was also noteworthy. The entire concept of wealth and power is an interesting one. Most people don't question it, but many aspects of it are completely arbitrary.

The secrecy behind many of these groups is also worrisome. Indeed power does corrupt.

I don't agree with all aspects of Nield's thesis. I think the Earth does indeed have a 'carrying capacity', and I do feel that there's something to global warming. However, separating the wheat from the chaff, there's much interesting information in Nied's PDF for those interested in the NWO.


I loved terror storm. Alex knows whats going on, he just doesnt get that's peal oil behind it all. You guys can watch terror storm for free at :http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7516705476148472744&hl=en

It's a true eye opener
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby ChicknLittle » Sat 12 Aug 2006, 21:26:48

The US forced British to arrest bomb plotters before they were ready to... Why? Could it be that the Republicans were having a bad news week (lamont/lieberman), or that the president's approval rating was hitting its lowest point ever? It seems to have been a real plot, revealed by informants within the muslim community. Nevertheless, the Bush admimistration rushed the arrests (for it's own purposes and against the judgement of the British who wanted to gather more information and evidence) and immediately began spinning the news to suggest that the arrests justified Bush's illegal NSA spying and the unrelated, ill-advised war in Iraq. I think, however, that people are beginning to see this emotional/news manipulation for what it is.
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby Zardoz » Sat 12 Aug 2006, 22:48:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicagoan', 'H')ere is his warning on youtube. This is very, very serious.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zAHqSfDNjaI


He's put himself in a win-win, no-lose position with this, hasn't he?

If there is a terrorist attack before the election, he can claim he was exactly right.

If there is one next year, or in 2008, he can say he forced them to postpone it.

If nothing happens, he can take complete credit for preventing it.
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby Chicagoan » Sat 12 Aug 2006, 23:11:19

I hope to God he is wrong. I just have a gut feeling. He was right before. I can see his line of reasoning. I am living in a big city and am scared shitless right now. I might move back in with my parents in the outer suburbs at least until the election is over and nothing happens.
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Re: red alert for staged terror attack

Unread postby jupiters_release » Sat 12 Aug 2006, 23:22:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicagoan', 'H')ere is his warning on youtube. This is very, very serious.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zAHqSfDNjaI


He's put himself in a win-win, no-lose position with this, hasn't he?

If there is a terrorist attack before the election, he can claim he was exactly right.

If there is one next year, or in 2008, he can say he forced them to postpone it.

If nothing happens, he can take complete credit for preventing it.


The way dude is rambling off he's totally lost, he knows he has no control and is having a hissy fit for something most peakoil members understand with common sense: the inevitability of more spectacular terrorism. The only winner here is the those of us who don't get blown up. :P

All this psychology speak, if you came to grips with "self-inflicted" terrorism that may severely hamper whatever sense of security you achieved by believing the party line till now. Shits bad enough, if its too stressful for ya then think on the bright side, going out with a bang (literally) will probably be much more humane than the following post peak oil devolutions. 8O
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staged terror attack coming soon ( false flag operation )

Unread postby Armageddon » Mon 15 Jan 2007, 16:06:11

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ww3/ir ... ke_war.htm


I have been saying this for a couple years.

And, a Russian General said with the additional ships the US have sent, it seems likely for an Iranian attack soon

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ww3/ir ... dmiral.htm
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Re: staged terror attack coming soon ( false flag operation

Unread postby Revi » Tue 16 Jan 2007, 22:47:41

Those articles make a lot of sense. We may very well see some kind of incident in the next few months. I was wondering about the IED's being supplied by Iran. Wouldn't they give them only to their Shia bretren? Have you heard of any IED's in the Shia part of Iraq? I thought that it was Sunni militants that were mining the roads. Most of the American public don't really know who is who over there, and when they talk about the Iranians providing support to the insurgents they believe it.

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Re: staged terror attack coming soon ( false flag operation

Unread postby Specop_007 » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 11:20:15

I do see a certain amount of humor in people defending Iran. Its amusing.
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Re: staged terror attack coming soon ( false flag operation

Unread postby Grifter » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 13:08:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'I') do see a certain amount of humor in people defending Iran. Its amusing.


Are they defending Iran? I'm not so sure. I personally wont defend them, but I don't want to go to another war. There are other ways to play it the long way.

We know the last war was a complete disaster, morally, tactically and financially. We were lied to then, why not this time?

Hope you find time to respond spec.
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Re: staged terror attack coming soon ( false flag operation

Unread postby Revi » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 14:43:40

Defending Iran? All I was saying is that I thought that the Sunni insurgents were the enemy. How did Iran suddenly become the enemy? I suppose we managed to sell a war against Iraq, so maybe we can do it with Iran too. Could it be that we are trying to stop the opening of the oil bourse on Kish? What is the real reason for this?
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