[NWMossBack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')he quote of the all days (I'd like to nominate it but couldn't find the thread?):

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom-seen', 'T')he cry of the cargo cult. You will know things are bad when people start constructing mock gas stations out of cardboard boxes and plywood in the hopes that a gasoline truck will arrive.

[meemoe_uk]

Like others have said, I reckon Engdahl is falling into the old trap of trying too hard to be a minority view. Because peak oil is gaining acceptance, he feels compelled to jump ship. It's just his mind set - "Don't believe what they tell you!" taking too much control .
Perhaps if his book 'A century of war' ever got majority,mainstream media acceptance then he'd publish an article entitled " In writing the book I was unwittingly being manipulated into creating goverment backed propaganda! "

When I read the words 'dinosaur remains' and it's context in his article, my mind groaned and my heart sank. What a cheap attempt to portray conventional oil theory as a slapdash affair!

***

Returning to the task of evaluating abiotic oil theory.

The last post to address my abiotic oil question concentrated somewhat on the validity of conventional oil theory.

I don't dispute the validity of conventional oil theory.

But, I don't see convential oil theory is incompatible with abiotic theory.
Why can't there be two independant ways oil can occur naturally? One via the algae - kerogen process, one via Primordial Hydrocarbon Rock change?
Does anyone know of a plauisible way of obtaining oil from PHR? What chemical process?

[NoFreeSpeech]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')he reaction to news like this at PO.com is invariably, "They are all whack-jobs" - which is close-minded and hard to respect also. I mean, you have a bunch of internet, armchair oil theorists calling all of Russian petroleum science nutty.

[NoFreeSpeech]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'P')eak Oil says nothing about the origins of oil... you self-serving, psychotic prick.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NoFreeSpeech', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')he reaction to news like this at PO.com is invariably, "They are all whack-jobs" - which is close-minded and hard to respect also. I mean, you have a bunch of internet, armchair oil theorists calling all of Russian petroleum science nutty.

[NoFreeSpeech]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I') haven't seen any good essays on current Russian Abiotic Oil for interested readers. I think it's just bullshit.

[NoFreeSpeech]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I') mean, if there were something to AO, then there would be enormous scientific interest in it.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NoFreeSpeech', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I') haven't seen any good essays on current Russian Abiotic Oil for interested readers. I think it's just bullshit.

[NoFreeSpeech]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'B')ut that perspective is very hard to find in other sources. If the Abiotic OIl Theory were current Russian wisdom on the subject, there would be a wealth of information about it.

[joewp]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NoFreeSpeech', '
')Another person of interest to talk to is Michael C. Lynch, one of the four faces in the "Ask The Experts" section of this website.

[TonyPrep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NoFreeSpeech', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'P')eak Oil says nothing about the origins of oil... you self-serving, psychotic prick.

[yeahbut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', ' ')Just slamming everyone across the board, even if you don't know what they actually believe or that their ideas may be in flux, isn't helpful. It doesn't help people organise their thoughts or arrive at useful conclusions, it may just make people feel angry, threatened, or hopeless so they leave, learning little, and not prepared to make changes in their lives.

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '.').. Peak Oil is NOT a theory, rather it is widely accepted scientific fact, and has been for decades.

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'L')ook... you can all test "abiotic oil theory" yourselves.

Just heat up some oil & watch what happens when it reaches it's maximum temperature & begins separating into it's component parts.

Too deep in the Earth & oil breaks down & ceases to be oil at all.

Can't form into pools. Too hot down there.

I knew when I paid my school taxes I was just throwing my money away.

Damn kids

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '.').. It is widely accepted as being produced by a biological process that requires very specific enviromental and geological conditions and forms over a very long time. ...

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'A')ctually I meant exactly what I wrote. I'm skeptical of insiders who are absolutely sure they're correct and have no understanding of how they might be wrong. Most people don't understand how often "firmly established theories" turn out to be nothing more than handy working hypotheses.

[darren]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NoFreeSpeech', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I') haven't seen any good essays on current Russian Abiotic Oil for interested readers. I think it's just bullshit.

[Ingenuity_Gap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'M')uch of science rests on a bedrock of belief or superstition, as well, Big Tex.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ingenuity_Gap', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'M')uch of science rests on a bedrock of belief or superstition, as well, Big Tex.

[Ingenuity_Gap]

I take it by your answer that we are going to have a nice and long word game. Let’s call it Threadbear’s Ingenuity.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'Y')ou cannot disengage the experimenter from the experiment. Conclusions drawn from experiment are subject to personal and cultural interpretation. Science is not nearly as reasonable as you think, in this regard.