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Re: The Planned Collapse of America

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Thu 13 Dec 2007, 02:32:42

The Powers That Be conspiracy is a cop out.

It allows a person to believe that they have no control over their lives and that some mysterious overlord is the reason that they suffer.

I find remarkable similarities between TPTB and organized religion.

Both control our lives, allegedly, and prevent us from changing anything.

It must be easy living as if nothing you do has any impact on anything.

I'm forced to live in a world where my actions have consequences and if I want to change something, I have to actually do it. I can't just sit around and complain about an evil elite that is running my life.
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Re: The Planned Collapse of America

Unread postby mercurygirl » Thu 13 Dec 2007, 14:34:53

Wow, you must have a lot to do then!

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Re: The Planned Collapse of America

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 13 Dec 2007, 15:16:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'T')he Powers That Be conspiracy is a cop out.

It allows a person to believe that they have no control over their lives and that some mysterious overlord is the reason that they suffer.

I find remarkable similarities between TPTB and organized religion.

Both control our lives, allegedly, and prevent us from changing anything.

It must be easy living as if nothing you do has any impact on anything.

I'm forced to live in a world where my actions have consequences and if I want to change something, I have to actually do it. I can't just sit around and complain about an evil elite that is running my life.


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Re: The Planned Collapse of America

Unread postby kadoomsoon » Thu 13 Dec 2007, 15:57:49

Don't believe the TV.
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Re: The Planned Collapse of America

Unread postby keehah » Thu 13 Dec 2007, 16:07:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')yler said: “As for the Bilderberg group NWO stuff, I just don't buy it. I've read enough of the literature to understand that most of it is fantasy. There are simply too many moving parts for any single group to control the global economy. I have also yet to see any legitimate proof that TPTB even exist or have interests that are so aligned with one another that they can work together to accomplish all kind of nefarious activities.”


Just an example:
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Re: The Planned Collapse of America

Unread postby keehah » Thu 13 Dec 2007, 16:29:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Wealth of Atlantis

The people of Atlantis possessed an immense wealth, for they had at their disposal all kinds of supplies in endless abundance: metals, timber, animals--both tame and wild--, including elephants, a great variety of fruits and vegetables, and many other things. Receiving all these products, they promptly furnished their temples, harbours, and the rest of the country. Around their metropolis, which was at about 10 kilometers (ca. 6 miles) from the sea, they built a circular system of channels and bridges with towers and gates, and circular walls of stone which they coated with brass, tin, and orichalcum.

Atlantis defeated in war

Atlantis was a flourishing realm. And yet, in spite of all the power deriving from wealth and advanced technologies, mighty fleets and large armies, Atlantis was defeated in war by the Athens of those remote times.

Atlantis unable to protect itself against catastrophe

Also, for all the knowledge the people of Atlantis had at their disposal, they were not able to prepare themselves against the natural catastrophe that affected them, nor could they avoid utter destruction.

The evil race of Atlantis punished by the gods

It has also been said that the people of Atlantis degenerated, for they were unable to live a happy life, having become spiritually ugly. For this last reason, Zeus and the gods, perceiving how evil this race had become, inflicted punishment upon them and let them be swallowed up by the sea.
http://www.maicar.com/GML/Atlantis.html
Turns out is was global warming that ultimately destroyed the civilization of Atlantis.

Process:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')HE HEGELIAN DIALECTIC AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER

In the last four years while covering the United Nations, I have come face to face, on a regular basis with communism, fascism, and socialism. I found, as a result of my own ignorance, that I could not identify them and therefore not identify the true meaning of what was being put forth in all of the documents I was reading. While I understood the goal of world government to be behind everything the United Nations was doing, I did not know how -- what modus operandi -- they would use to convert people from a capitalistic system where the individual is the master and molder of his own destiny undergirded by personal property rights reinforced his claim to that destiny, to one of complete control where man did what the State directed, when the State directed, and in the process gave up his freedoms and private property so the State could better direct its use. I then found that the "modus operandi" being used for this transition was called the "Hegelian Dialectic" which is comprised of three parts: the thesis, antithesis, and synthesis.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a394cb4154192.htm

AKA: 'Atlantis' must fall to bring in any NWO.

Plan:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')It is true that without the population or the bomb problem, the elect would use some other excuse to bring about the New World Order. They have plans to bring about things like earthquakes, war, the Messiah, extraterrestrial landing, and economic collapse. They might bring about all of these things just to make ... sure that it does work. They will do whatever is necessary to succeed. The Illuminati has all the bases covered ... Can you imagine what would happen if Los Angeles is hit with a 9.0 quake, New York City is destroyed by a terrorist-planted atomic bomb, World War III breaks out in the Middle East, the banks and the stock markets collapse, Extraterrestrials land on the White House lawn, food disappears from the shelves, some people disappear, the Messiah presents himself to the world, and all in a very short period of time?" [William Cooper, "Behold A Pale Horse", Page 177, 1991]

http://cuttingedge.org/News/n1883.cfm

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Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby deMolay » Sun 22 Nov 2009, 23:25:05

Once again another author opines on collapse. Good things like how does a country with worthless currency and credit cut off buy oil on credit. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Arc ... lapse.html
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby katkinkate » Sun 22 Nov 2009, 23:51:58

One of these days it might actually happen and the world will look at USA in wonder and proclaim, "Well, I never expected that to happen!"
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby Hoops_Mckann » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 00:21:33

I have read many doomer porno flicks on this subject. I am wondering what role I will star in this smut film. I hope to be in *relatively* good shape i.e. not fearing for my safety and basic survival 80% of the time. I am an intermediate pilot, good mechanic, good physical shape, and with anabove average IQ. I wonder what tribe would welcome me? I guess we still live in the jungle, abeit a very civilized one for now.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby RdSnt » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 08:48:47

Not many of us live in tribes any more. The problem with being "very civilized" is that you can descend into savagery much more directly and quickly.
Historical, aboriginal tribes, were quite stable and predictable. They knew how to do tribal, we don't.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby hillsidedigger » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 08:51:35

Collapse can also be termed reorganization and doesn't sound so bad.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby Homesteader » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 10:00:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'N')ot many of us live in tribes any more. The problem with being "very civilized" is that you can descend into savagery much more directly and quickly.
Historical, aboriginal tribes, were quite stable and predictable. They knew how to do tribal, we don't.


Very well put.

None of us know, the knowledge has been forgotten and reviled as the work of the devil for 10,000 years.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 10:15:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'N')ot many of us live in tribes any more. The problem with being "very civilized" is that you can descend into savagery much more directly and quickly.
Historical, aboriginal tribes, were quite stable and predictable. They knew how to do tribal, we don't.


Very well put.

None of us know, the knowledge has been forgotten and reviled as the work of the devil for 10,000 years.


The knowledge isn't gone. It's almost instinct. Go join the Crips or the Bloods or the mafia and see how much fun and peaceful it is. Tribalism is great when multiple tribes don't have a lot to fight over.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 10:17:48

You can't "go join" the Crips or the Bloods any more than you can "go join" any other tribe.

People might be able to form their own tribes (see "Beyond Civilization" by Daniel Quinn), but it's probably very hard for most people used to living the way most of us do.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby Homesteader » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 11:18:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'N')ot many of us live in tribes any more. The problem with being "very civilized" is that you can descend into savagery much more directly and quickly.
Historical, aboriginal tribes, were quite stable and predictable. They knew how to do tribal, we don't.


Very well put.

None of us know, the knowledge has been forgotten and reviled as the work of the devil for 10,000 years.


The knowledge isn't gone. It's almost instinct. Go join the Crips or the Bloods or the mafia and see how much fun and peaceful it is. Tribalism is great when multiple tribes don't have a lot to fight over.


:lol: Gasps, wipes tears from eyes, picks himself off the floor and gets back in the chair.

Absolutely no influence from the culture, no siree, not a bit.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby Homesteader » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 11:20:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'N')ot many of us live in tribes any more. The problem with being "very civilized" is that you can descend into savagery much more directly and quickly.
Historical, aboriginal tribes, were quite stable and predictable. They knew how to do tribal, we don't.


Very well put.

None of us know, the knowledge has been forgotten and reviled as the work of the devil for 10,000 years.


The knowledge isn't gone. It's almost instinct. Go join the Crips or the Bloods or the mafia and see how much fun and peaceful it is. Tribalism is great when multiple tribes don't have a lot to fight over.


:lol: Gasps, wipes tears from eyes, picks himself off the floor and gets back in the chair.

Absolutely no influence from the culture, no siree, not a bit.



But keep it coming, you are proving my point beautifully.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 11:30:37

If we collapse, I foresee a collapse a lot like Bosnia, with ethnic purges etc.

If you doubt this is possible in the US, then study these interesting case studies:
1) Hurricane Katrina
2) LA Riots
3) Race & ethnic division in US prison system
4) KKK-led lynchings etc in South
5) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood_massacre
or even better:
6) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_St._Louis_Riot
and last but not least, my personal favorite:
7) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Race_Riot Gotta love this one, with WWI biplanes dropping incendiary bombs on black homes. Yup, we're not at all like Bosnia.

What the Joker said in "Dark Knight" (fictional plots aside) was true: "When the chips are down, these 'civilized' people will eat each other".

I'll leave that to the semantics experts whether that constitutes tribalism or not.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 12:18:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'Y')ou can't "go join" the Crips or the Bloods any more than you can "go join" any other tribe.


Unless you have a vagina.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 12:22:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hillsidedigger', 'C')ollapse can also be termed reorganization and doesn't sound so bad.


Our group at work "reorganized" and it was ugly ugly ugly, neighbor against neighbor, and caused by weak stupid people spawning ridiculous rumors, Salem witch trials style. If it had actually involved a group of survival situation, there would have been few survivors.
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Re: Impending Collapse of the USA by GATTO

Unread postby deMolay » Mon 23 Nov 2009, 13:06:17

Preston that was nasty but very true. If you stripped naked and lay at the main intersection of a city on a mattress with your legs spread. Probably the first passerby who was a male would start kicking you in the nuts follwed by many more kicks by others. However if you were a female and did the above, a lineup of guys around the block would quickly form to avail themselves of your wares.
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