[qibu]

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[Markos101]

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/270505estulin.htm

According to some intelligence coming out of this year's Bilderberg meeting at Munich, Bavaria, Germany, on May 5–8, 2005, the Bilderbergers are plugging for peak oil in the next 2 years, with the US government finally admitting that energy is indeed necessary for continuous economic growth and that hydrogen is (begrudgingly) not adequate to replace fossil fuels.

Bilderberg is a secretive meeting of global elites, including many CEOs of global 100 companies, high level government officials, 'monarchs' and so called 'Non Governmental Organisations' (NGOs) that place behind-the-scenes unelected pressures on governments.

Bear in mind that Rockefeller owns most of the remaining merging major oil companies and will profit handsomely from an oil peak (of course Exxon, Mobil, etc are all former Standard Oil Rockefeller companies and fund the Rockefeller fortune). He's also getting old.

The elites have also been plugging for depopulation for some time. It makes you wonder whether the timing of oil peak does have to be this early - there may well be fake lefty groups out there claiming artificially early peak dates. Peak oil consolidates power into the global elite (oil companies) and plugs the UN as a 'saviour'. Rockefeller has funded much of the instatement of the UN, and the conspiracy theorists seem to have some good arguments on this.

Let's see what happens, but apparently Henry Kissenger is either claiming, or requesting depending on your point of view, $150-$250 in the next couple of years followed by a major economic turndown. If you want your piece of the mass wealth transfer that will occur suggest investment in some former Standard Oil company stocks or buy contracts to sell oil in a couple of years time.

Mark
Who's wondering whether this peak oil is actually an artificial scarcity agenda....

[MicroHydro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')here may well be fake lefty groups out there claiming artificially early peak dates

[MD]

You are getting far too convoluted. Reality almost always turns out to be a surprise for everyone, including TPTB.

[savethehumans]

Exactly! I know that TPTB have what's to happen all planned out. I also know that things are going to get out of TPTB's control. Things aren't going to go according to plan!

Then watch TPTB try to get control back. See them fail. See them FALL...along with the rest of us!

[ubercynicmeister]

So, between getting drunk, having sex with high-priced call girls (and, I assume, GUYS - we shouldn't discriminate, here) and over-indulging in luxury food-stuffs, the supposedly secretive Bilderbergers have finally noticed Peak Oil, eh?

I'm surprised they actually allowed reality to intrude to such an extent. Y'know, I think I have fianlly worked out how they keep their "secrets" - simply get the membership so drunk they cannot recall anything of what was said or done. AND it means the members will agree to anything. And with anyone! So it has it's side-benefits, as well.

I mean, c'mon, even MSN has noticed Peak Oil, though it doesn't call it that. You'd literally have to be blind, deaf, dumb, stupid , drunk and smashed senseless on some form of illicit pharmeceutical NOT to have noticed that the price of fuel has been going up, for "no apparent reason" (gee, y'don't think we could be running outta the stuff? NAH, couldn't be!).

This lack-of-awareness-about-things-like-Peak-Oil proves beyond reasonable doubt that the Bilderbergers are the ineffectual clueless morons I've always suspected them to be. MORE FOOL THEY. I suppose next week they will have a "meeting" to breathlessly announce the discovery of "fire"? What's next? The "wheel"?

[RG73]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Markos101', 'h')ttp://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/270505estulin.htm

According to some intelligence coming out of this year's Bilderberg meeting at Munich, Bavaria, Germany, on May 5–8, 2005, the Bilderbergers are plugging for peak oil in the next 2 years, with the US government finally admitting that energy is indeed necessary for continuous economic growth and that hydrogen is (begrudgingly) not adequate to replace fossil fuels.

[seldom_seen]

Buildaburger Schmieldawerger.

They're on a collision course with geology just like the rest of us...

[aldente]

Who exactely are the Bilderbergers? One quote I found:
I tell you frankly that I am deeply alarmed today over the possibility that a right-wing reaction may draw some sections of capital so far away from our traditions as to imperil the entire structure of American life as we know it.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/bilderbergers.html

[Markos101]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RG73', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Markos101', 'h')ttp://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/270505estulin.htm

According to some intelligence coming out of this year's Bilderberg meeting at Munich, Bavaria, Germany, on May 5–8, 2005, the Bilderbergers are plugging for peak oil in the next 2 years, with the US government finally admitting that energy is indeed necessary for continuous economic growth and that hydrogen is (begrudgingly) not adequate to replace fossil fuels.

[MacG]

Occams razor revisited - Robert A. Heinlein made a variation going roughly: "Dont assume it is a conspiration if mere stupidity is enough for an explanation".

I happily apply it to the urban legend-style ramblings about masons, bilderbergs and trilateral comissions.

[Doly]

While the evidence for Masons being powerful is sketchy at best, the evidence for the Trilateral and the Bilderberg club being formed of fairly powerful people is quite clear. Whether they (or anybody else) actually shape the future of the world is an entirely different question.

[MacG]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'W')hether they (or anybody else) actually shape the future of the world is an entirely different question.

[michaelc888]

Control is an illusion. There is no plan B. Remember King Canute on the Seashore.

Long ago, England was ruled by a king named Canute. Like many leaders and men of power, Canute was surrounded by people who were always praising him. Every time he walked into a room, the flattery began.

"You are the greatest man that ever lived," one would say.

"O king, there can never be another as mighty as you," another would insist.

"Your highness, there is nothing you cannot do," someone would smile.

"Great Canute, you are the monarch of all," another would sing. "Nothing in this world dares to disobey you."

The king was a man of sense, and he grew tired of hearing such foolish speeches.

One day he was walking by the seashore, and his officers and courtiers were with him, praising him as usual. Canute decided to teach them a lesson.

"So you say I am the greatest man in the world?" he asked them.

"O king," they cried, "there never has been anyone as mighty as you, and there never be anyone so great, ever again!"

"And you say all things obey me?" Canute asked.

"Absolutely!" they said. "The world bows before you, and gives you honor."

"I see," the king answered. "In that case, bring me my chair, and we will go down to the water."

"At once, your majesty!" They scrambled to carry his royal chair over the sands.

"Bring it closer to the sea," Canute called. "Put it right here, right at the water's edge." He sat down and surveyed the ocean before him. "I notice the tide is coming in. Do you think it will stop if I give the command?"

His officers were puzzled, but they did not dare say no. "Give the order, O great king, and it will obey," one of then assured him.

"Very well. Sea," cried Canute, "I command you to come no further! Waves, stop your rolling!. Surf, stop your pounding! Do not dare touch my feet!"

He waited a moment, quietly, and a tiny wave rushed up the sand and lapped at his feet.

"How dare you!" Canute shouted. "Ocean, turn back now! I have ordered you to retreat before me, and now you must obey! Go back!"

And in answer another wave swept forward and curled around the king's feet. The tide came in, just as it always did. The water rose higher and higher. It came up around the king's chair, and wet not only his feet, but also his robe. His officers stood before him, alarmed, and wondering whether he was not mad.

"Well, my friends," Canute said, "it seems I do not have quite so much power as you would have me believe. Perhaps you have learned something today. Perhaps now you will remember there is only one King who is all-powerful, and it is he who rules the sea, and holds the ocean in the hollow of his hand. I suggest you reserve your praises for him."

The royal officers and courtiers hung their heads and looked foolish. And some say Canute took off his crown soon afterward, and never wore it again.

[DrColossus]

The Bilderbergs are nothing but pawns of the Illuminati.

The Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria(TM)

"The worlds oldest and most successful conspiracy"(R)

"Eight and half out of ten world leaders choose AISB"

[RG73]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Markos101', 'L')ooks like one of these 'I'll try and find something wrong with every thing you said' posts.

[airstrip1]

It is difficult to take these conspiratorial articles about the Bilderberg group seriously when they are littered with factual errors. For example, take the following quote from one of the pieces listed on the prison planet site states

The world in the palm of their hands: Bilderberg 2005

Jobs in Germany and France are going to Asia and Ukraine," [to take advantage of cheap labour.] Ukraine is one of the former Soviet republics that have been admitted to the European Union bringing the total membership to 25 nations.

Now, I may be missing something, but last time I checked the Ukraine was not part of the EU and is not even listed as a prospective member in the next proposed expansion

http://www.eurunion.org/states/home.htm

If these so called investigative journalists can not get this simple piece of freely available information correct why on earth should I believe any of their claims about the Bilderberg group's secret agenda.


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[RG73]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('airstrip1', ' ')If these so called investigative journalists can not get this simple piece of freely available information correct why on earth should I believe any of their claims about the Bilderberg group's secret agenda.

[ubercynicmeister]

Yeah, well, I wouldn't take 'em seriously, anyway...as someone said on this thread "they're just a bunch of pompous old people (there are some non-whites amongst them) who wanna feel self-important"

Supposedly, they had decided that the new EU constitution would be adopted by all countries.....so what happened?

If they're so darn POWERFUL, then how come said EU constitution was given the mighty "Non" by the French?

No, them, the Trilateral Commission, the Council For Foreign Relations, the Illuminati (if they exist), (etc, etc) are just self-important busybodies who wanna feel like "they know", like "they're important", and get together with other self-important busybodies to have a nice time drinking expensive whines (spelling intentional) eating exotic foodstuffs, and having sex with the most expensive prostitutes.

In any case- when conspiracy bumps head on into the Laws Of Physics - in the form of resouce depletion - my money's on the Laws Of Physics.

[Barbara]

Just read an article about what leaked from the Bilderbergers last meeting.
Link: http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Re ... tulin.html
Under the chapter "energy", you can read what they have in plan for us:

"Conclusion: Expect a severe downturn in the world's economy over the next two years as Bilderbergers try to safeguard the remaining oil supply by taking money out of people's hands. In a recession or, at worst, a depression, the population will be forced to dramatically cut down their spending habits, thus ensuring a longer supply of oil to the world's rich as they try to figure out what to do."

The whole article is very interesting.