[Sixstrings]

Quite a headline, "Nixon activates the national guard to quell unrest."

But no it's not the 1970s, Missouri has a governor named Nixon.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ixon Activates Missouri National Guard in Response to Potential ‘Period of Unrest’

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (KMOX) – Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon signed an executive order activating the Missouri National Guard on Monday afternoon.
According to a news release, the role of the National Guard is to “…support law enforcement during any period of unrest that might occur following the grand jury’s decision concerning the investigation into the death of Michael Brown.”

“As part of our ongoing efforts to plan and be prepared for any contingency, it is necessary to have these resources in place in advance of any announcement of the grand jury’s decision,” Nixon said in the release.
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/11/17/nixon-activates-missouri-national-guard/

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')BI Warns Ferguson Decision ‘Will Likely’ Lead to Violence By Extremists Protesters
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-warns-ferguson-decision-lead-violence-extremist-protesters/story?id=26980624

[vtsnowedin]

Both sides have had a long time to plan for this riot. We will soon see who is the better planner. The Al Sharptons and liberal media have been shameless in their incitement to riot. They should be charged with that crime. How many times have you seen the photo of Brown with the headphones on his head. Sweet innocent baby faced teenager? When was that photo taken? when he was 15 or 16? Surly not when he had grown into a 6' ft. 4" -250 lb thug that was terrorizing the neighborhood. I suspect he has a Juvy rap sheet that shows he was no choir boy even at fifteen (his manner in the store shows a bit of practice) but we won't get the facts on that.
Let's hope they can keep those intent on having a big riot to make them famous are kept under control so no one gets shot.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'B')oth sides have had a long time to plan for this riot. We will soon see who is the better planner. The Al Sharptons and liberal media have been shameless in their incitement to riot.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')img]http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./876/493/fergusonprotestspic1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1[/img]

Muslim groups seek to co-opt Ferguson protests, says watchdog group

Muslim groups have stepped up efforts to co-opt protests over the fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., with a drive to equate the teen’s death to the death of a radical Islamist shot during an FBI raid in 2009, a Washington-based security watchdog group is warning.

Using social media, conference calling and traditional outreach methods, leaders of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) are portraying Brown and Detroit mosque leader Imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah as African-American victims of police targeting, according to the Washington-based Center for Security Policy (CSP). In a conference call organized by CAIR-linked "Muslims for Ferguson, a CAIR official called Abdullah a “Shaheed,” or martyr, and said both he and Brown were victims of a national security apparatus that had “completely gone wild” and engaged in “demonizing and criminalizing Muslims.”

“The reality is that this country, in law enforcement, be it local, state or federal law enforcement, people with guns have always seen black men and black people as threats,” Dawud Walid, executive director of CAIR’s Michigan Chapter, told the some 100 protest organizers on the call, made on the five-year anniversary of Abdullah's death and which was monitored by CSP.

...

“They’re interested in building coalitions with other organizations in order to effect a legislative change to weaken anti-terrorism laws and weaken the ability of law enforcement to engage in counterterrorism,” said Shideler. “And they’re trying to bring other people into their efforts so it doesn’t look like it is just a Muslim effort.”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/18/muslim-groups-seek-to-co-opt-ferguson-protests-says-watchdog-group/

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]EXCLUSIVE: Militant group offers cash rewards for 'location' of Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson - and says ammunition will 'solve a lot of problems'

Self-described 'militant resistance' offers $5,000 to find where Wilson is
Claims they 'just wana get his photo' but also have incendiary Twitter feed which says ammunition will 'solve problems'
Mounting fear of extremist violence in Ferguson when grand jury decides whether to charge Wilson over Michael Brown's shooting death
State of emergency declared and National Guard mobilized in preparation
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2840003/Militant-group-offers-cash-rewards-location-Ferguson-police-officer-Darren-Wilson-says-ammunition-solve-lot-problems.html

[Sixstrings]

Grand jury may have a decision soon.

It's taken them a long time.. that may not be a good sign.. can a grand jury hang? Isn't is just majority vote?

They're either going to indict the police officer, or, they have been stringing out deliberations so nobody says they rushed it.

Bear in mind, grand jury indictment is not conviction, if indicted then it goes to trial and that's a whole other burden of proof.

To do some devil's advocate:

One thing the Ferguson PD has done wrong was telling protesters and media to "turn off your cameras." That's blatantly unconstitutional.

It's actually important that officers around the country are aware and trained about basic constitutional rights, like that. Unless you are placed under arrest, then you have the constitutional right to record any interaction with government that you want to.

[KaiserJeep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')-snip-
Here's my take:

1) the whole thing is about a youtube vid of the cop shooting Michael Brown. So everyone just ASSUMED things and it went viral and people took the streets and it hasn't stopped since.

2) ...

[kuidaskassikaeb]

Somebody has to disagree with this stuff.

Some facts

At least 5 witnesses say Michael Brown had his hands up, two in real time on a cell phone video.

He was at least 30 feet from the officer probably a 100 feet and had stopped running away when shot at.

There is absolutely no question that he was unarmed.

I saw the video of the alleged robbery. There was no jumping over counters just some finger pointing. If somebody hadn't said it was a robbery you wouldn't have thought it was.

Al Sharpton told everybody to go home and vote.

Only one third of the needed ballots were supplied to Ferguson in the midterm disenfranchising 2/3 ds of the voters. Not my idea of a fair election.

Ferguson gets 1/2 its budget from municipal fines, and failure to appear
even though
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e noted numbers from Missouri's attorney general on vehicle stops in Ferguson. Blacks are far more likely than whites to be stopped, far more likely to be searched, and twice as likely to be arrested — even though whites are more likely to be caught with contraband.

[KaiserJeep]

People have still got to learn, even if you have your brand new, shiny and black or silver smart phone in your hand, when a police officer yells at you, drop the damned thing and turn around with your empty hands raised.

My brother was a Wisconsin State Trooper. He got booted out because he was not trigger happy enough to meet their standards, he ended up in fistfights three times instead of discharging his weapon. The third time and after two warnings, they fired his ass because he would not shoot someone in compliance with policy.

The truth of the matter is that the Police are largely undermanned, overworked, and underpaid. They are frequently making split second decisions that mean life or death, both for them and the people they encounter when investigating crimes. The cop doing the shooting was investigating a robbery, had not seen the infamous video, and had no way of knowing if the suspected perp was armed or not.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kuidaskassikaeb', 'S')omebody has to disagree with this stuff.

Some facts

At least 5 witnesses say Michael Brown had his hands up, two in real time on a cell phone video.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kuidaskassikaeb', 'I') saw the video of the alleged robbery. There was no jumping over counters just some finger pointing. If somebody hadn't said it was a robbery you wouldn't have thought it was.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'P')eople have still got to learn, even if you have your brand new, shiny and black or silver smart phone in your hand, when a police officer yells at you, drop the damned thing and turn around with your empty hands raised.

My brother was a Wisconsin State Trooper. He got booted out because he was not trigger happy enough to meet their standards, he ended up in fistfights three times instead of discharging his weapon. The third time and after two warnings, they fired his ass because he would not shoot someone in compliance with policy.

The truth of the matter is that the Police are largely undermanned, overworked, and underpaid. They are frequently making split second decisions that mean life or death, both for them and the people they encounter when investigating crimes. The cop doing the shooting was investigating a robbery, had not seen the infamous video, and had no way of knowing if the suspected perp was armed or not.

[vtsnowedin]

We are not as far removed from this as we would like to be. http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/sh ... oid=908163
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Nine people had died on Friday night. They were all black men, ranging in age from 16 to 34. Four were married. Eight were employed. Seven had been shot to death. Another died in a fire and the ninth bled to death from a cut on his leg.

The two reporters divided the riot deaths between them. Heineman would handle the west-side victims and Havemann the north and south sides. They got names and addresses from the Sun-Times police reporter and tracked down the police reports.

The next morning Heineman drove his old Volkswagen Bug out to the west side. Friends and relatives of one of the victims told him that other men had also been killed at about the same time and place. That evening he stayed late at the office, checking back with the police and area hospitals and on a hand-drawn map plotting the locations of four bodies found between 8 and 11 Friday night along the 4100 and 4200 blocks of West Madison. He spent the rest of the week looking into those four deaths.

One of the victims, Robert Dorsey, described by his employer as reliable and well liked, had been walking home with his wife about 9 PM. They detoured into an alley to avoid Keeler Avenue, where police were firing their rifles into the air. Dorsey's wife told Heineman, "We never made it to the house. Robert pushed me to the ground because he heard the guns go off and it sounded like a whole lot of shots--like a machine gun. He fell onto me, asked if I was all right, and said they had shot him in the back. He was bleeding on me and had a hole in his front."

She said, "I don't know who did it but I didn't see anyone shooting but the police." Her husband lay on the street from about 9:15 until 9:45, when a squad car arrived. "I think he died about 9:30," she said. "That was when I saw him give a little jerk."

Several witnesses, including a small-business owner who'd sat in his store all night and watched the looting and burning along Madison, talked about a blue Chevy. They called it a "killer squad." Four white officers in the unmarked blue car, each with a shotgun, had appeared at intervals during the night, firing into stores without warning. Two of the victims had been found in the backs of stores and two in the alley just south of the stores. A store owner on that block, the 4100 block of West Madison, said there were hundreds of spent bullets on the floor of his shop the next morning.

Heineman checked with the coroner's office. He was told all four men had died of wounds from shotguns whose shells had been packed with extra shot to be especially lethal.

There'd been a lot of racial tension that year. Black students had been bused into the Austin district for the first time the previous fall. There were reports of the Ku Klux Klan gaining in membership among Chicago policemen. Now there was at least circumstantial evidence that a tactical unit had gone berserk. Heineman told the city editor that he'd stumbled on a much bigger story than a profile of riot deaths. But instead of pursuing the story, he was directed to find out more about the law governing police use of firearms and department regulations on the use of deadly force. He determined that the regulations clearly barred the kind of police fire that had apparently killed the four men.

[Sixstrings]

I'm sorry I'm a bit worked up about this, it just gets me, is all.

The media calls Brown "the unarmed black teenager shot by a white officer."

Wtf.

Why do they not say "the accused convenience store robber."

Look folks -- I'm all for democracy and the People, UNLESS the People are wanting a right to rob convenience stores and act a fool out in public, ok?

I've seen my own town go downhill, over the years.

People just aren't acting right anymore, in public. Maybe I should move to Vermont or something, but it's too darn cold up there and the liberals have raised the power bill 37%.

We've got more poverty in this country -- white and black -- and breakdown of families and no jobs and as if that weren't bad enough, now weed is legal or decrminalized.

Now I know a lot of folks on this forum like their weed, and that's okay you're not out robbing convenience stores or graduating to oxy and pills and heroin and "tina" and crack. But some are.

I think the legal weed is a problem.

And the other drugs, too.

Here's what I'd like to see: I know everyone wants their legal weed, so how about a 3 strikes law -- if anyone commits 3 violent crimes and they test positive for weed, or any other drug, then toss them into the slammer and throw away the key.

I like 3 strikes laws.

Because the reality is that if somebody gets violent, after 3 times, then you can be pretty darn sure that's a violent person and they are best kept off the streets.

[Sixstrings]

I am being very serious here.

I could have never imagined I'd wind up complaining about breakdown of families and "drugs."

But I have just seen such a radical change these last years, in my county, and neighboring counties.

I've got one county south of me that's just *known* for being infested with drugs. It's sort of rural, with some suburbs. It's white and latino. It's not the latinos' fault either, it's the white folks on the drugs.

It's so bad -- you actually don't want to be driving the highway through there too late at night, in a nice car, or else cops will think you are a drug dealer and pull you over.

The drugs are just out of control.

Marijuana is EVERYWHERE now, where it isn't legal it's basically decriminalized.

How are we so sure this is a good thing? That weed is so easy to get now, and okay? Isn't that just going to make everyone smoke more weed and be stoned all the time? Is that really a good thing?

Bigger problems -- "oxy" is everywhere. That's big pharma's fault, these meds for peoples' "back pain."

And now the oxy is cracked down on so HEROIN is way up. People can't get their pill fix anymore, so it's heroin and crack.

Then all the party drugs. The ecstsasy, the tina (ecstasy + meth), then meth too.

It's a big fracking mess, guys. Poor people, no jobs, everybody stoned and turning into degenerate drug people, acting a fool in public.

[Plantagenet]

The rioters in Ferguson chant "hands up! Don't shoot!"

The people supporting the police chant back "pants up! Don't loot!"

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'I')'m sorry I'm a bit worked up about this, it just gets me, is all.

Maybe I should move to Vermont or something, but it's too darn cold up there and the liberals have raised the power bill 37%.

[Sixstrings]

Why can't media start saying "the alleged convenience store robber," wouldn't that be objective, when they say "unarmed black teenager" it makes it sound like it was a racist attack on somebody innocent.

I think it's the darn media that has convinced everyone this was some racist attack.

Why hasn't anyone watched the robbery video. Watch that video I linked, he had his hands on the shop owner's neck, he pushed him, he stomped back after him.

What are other people seeing that I'm not, I'm seeing someone dangerous in that video and it's no surprise to me he mixed it up with a cop after.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')olice arrest protesters as Ferguson awaits grand jury decision

(Reuters) - Police in Ferguson, Missouri, kept alert on Thursday for signs of tension after arresting five people for blocking a street the night before in a protest demanding the criminal indictment of a white police officer who shot dead an unarmed black teenager in August.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/20/us-usa-missouri-shooting-idUSKCN0J315K20141120

[Subjectivist]

Michael Brown Sr. calls for peace.

http://youtu.be/x4LkX7PZCoo