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Re: State of Emergency declared in Ferguson, national guard

Unread postby Sixstrings » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 00:25:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'M')ichael Brown Sr. calls for peace.

http://youtu.be/x4LkX7PZCoo


I understand they've lost their son, but there should also be some remorse from the family for the victim:

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I've never heard the Brown family apologize or say anything remorseful about that.

What about the shop owner. What about his rights. What about all of our rights, to be able to shop and go out in public in peace and safety. And to be safe in our workplaces and places of business, from robbery and thuggish assault.

Look at that picture. He's got his hands on that guy's throat, it's not right.

Can we just get past the political correctness. Look at that picture. Can we all at least agree that if he treated an armed police officer that way, then THAT is why lethal force was used. You cannot do this, you cannot steal cigars and grab the store owner by the throat like that, and you sure can't do it to armed police and expect a cop to just let it happen.

What's wrong with people.. reality, guys.. nobody can act this way in shops and grab people by the throat and steal things and then go and assault a police officer.
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Re: State of Emergency declared in Ferguson, national guard

Unread postby Sixstrings » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 01:14:33

And let me say something else.

They had more of a case regarding Trayvon Martin. Because it turns out Zimmerman gets into mishaps and trouble all the time, since then.

But I STILL think Trayvon attacked him.

Look people -- NOBODY owns the streets. No thug, no tough teenager, no hoodlum. Bottom line. You don't go attacking people like this.

Zimmerman kind of looks for trouble sometimes, apparently, but you can't say that about THIS case.

That's a shop owner. Presumably trying to run a shop in a ghetto area, and that's DANGEROUS as it is and a lot of these owners have shotguns right under the counter.

That shop owner did not go looking for trouble.

He didn't deserve that. Look how little he is, he's probably Lebanese and a nice guy just trying to own and run a small business.

So the robbery goes down, Brown shoves him and puts his hands around his neck (looks like).

And the shop owner calls 911.

Then Brown gets into it with a police officer, straight out of the convenience store. We can guess what the cigars were for -- it's for weed, blunts, right? Of course. Have any of you been to a convenience store lately? It's all weed stuff, pipes and blunts and papers and if the government would allow it they were selling synthetic weed, for a while.

So anyhow, the cop doesn't even know about the robbery at first -- and the protesters cite that as some kind of excuse. :roll: Like it doesn't matter the guy violently robbed that store.

But at some point, the officer realizes that yeah, this is the suspect that came over on the radio, violent robbery.

Don't you think knowing that just raised the seriousness of the situation about ten times? Do you want cops to take robberies and assault seriously, or not?

I'm not on the jury, we'll find out eventually what all the details are.

But I am inclined to believe the police officer. They have a hard job to do, they protect us, they keep law and order, they risk their lives. That gun they carry is a threat to THEM -- in a scuffle, a perp can grab that gun and use it on the cop and it happens all the time, actually.
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Re: State of Emergency declared in Ferguson, national guard

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 06:30:25

Six, I haven't met many people who can have a dialogue with themselves, but you can.
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Re: State of Emergency declared in Ferguson, national guard

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 07:43:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kuidaskassikaeb', 'S')omebody has to disagree with this stuff.

Some facts

At least 5 witnesses say Michael Brown had his hands up, two in real time on a cell phone video.



Would you happen to have a link to that video?

Again what video are you talking about here. The one where his accomplice in the store robbery fills a reporter full of BS or the one by the two girls that didn't actually see the event. Or the one where the background voice is from an eye witness that tells it as the police reports say it happened?
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Re: State of Emergency declared in Ferguson, national guard

Unread postby Sixstrings » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 18:05:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'S')ix, I haven't met many people who can have a dialogue with themselves, but you can.


Well.. I'm not like this in person. I'm actually a very good conversationalist, and listener, believe it or not. :lol:

I'm sorry for my rants, bottom line on it, those of us with a more conservative bent are not nazis or racists.

BUT..

Speaking for myself, I just don't like this, the guy robbed a convenience store and he had his hands on that shop owners throat, and I'm sorry but that is NOT a civil rights hero.

These are important questions here, and nobody in the media is pointing this stuff out.

What are they protesting for. Is it for the right to rob convenience stores. :?:

If not, then where is the PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and showing some remorse for the SHOP OWNER.

THAT is what's got me irked about it. Media needs some objectivity. You don't just fan protests and pump it all up when at the CORE of it nobody is talking about the fact that Michael Brown stole those cigars and he shoved that shopkeeper and it looks to me like he put his hands around his neck.

ENOUGH of making perpetrators the victim. That's a road to chaos and society falling apart, and crime everywhere, and cops that don't want to bother with a prosecution risk so they just don't give a sh*t if you've just been robbed.

If we keep this up, we're gonna have liberal lefty police forces and crime out of control and everyone feeling guilty and apologizing for criminals. That's the 1970s all over again. Wake up, people.
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Re: State of Emergency declared in Ferguson, national guard

Unread postby Sixstrings » Fri 21 Nov 2014, 18:30:20

CNN reporting FBI has sent 100 agents to Ferguson, and ATF has sent SWAT teams.

Other headlines on drudgereport, I don't want to link it all:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')afeguards in Place to Protect Identity of Jurors...

School district cancels classes...

Holder Tells Law Enforcement to Behave...

Ferguson Protestors Erupt, Want Officer Wilson 'Dead'...

Police families go into hiding...


On CNN, St. Louis PD says a lot of the agitators have come in from other states, New York and California plates.
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