Recently, since the speed of this site has increased, I have noticed more and more names that I recognized from the Oil Drum (TOD). I am wondering who you are (in case you changed your user name) and why you have started posting here.
My story- I was only at TOD for less than a year but I did have a number of accomplishments. I wrote a review of Morris Berman's book Why America Failed that must have set some sort of response record over there (over 600 responses). I wrote a journalistic article about the effects of fracking in the Wheeling area that a poster said "should be published somewhere". I also predicted the epic 2012 drought in a Spring Drum beat and noted, in June of 2012, that the Arctic would have to get much worse in area extent loss to match volume declines- then it began its new record decent just 2 weeks later.
In the end I left because there was just too much rudeness and awful moderation, there just seems to be an attitude of "I am your intellectual superior" among too many there (it is actually a little better now). Its hard to describe- but the insults, boorishness, and superiority attitude wore me down.
The final straw came during the week of X-mas when I wrote a simple "happy holidays- be safe driving as there is, unfortunately, no peak alcohol yet" post. It was very uncontroversial- almost Hallmark actually- and it was deleted! This flipped me as many people wrote tons of inappropriate stuff, made insults, etc. but were not deleted. In fact, later in that same drumbeat others, such as wiseindian, also wrote holiday greetings that were note deleted- it all seemed very arbitrary.
I realized that I needed a site that didn't take itself too seriously (I'm just guessing, but I believe Obama is not reading TOD). I also wanted a site where the mods were a little bit fairer and considerate- and not believing themselves to be infallible. A place where humans talk- not humans who think they are gods.
I like the threaded format here and the flexibility this gives my schedule to comment as I get the chance- not in a race to beat a 2 day drumbeat deadline. I like being able to start threads and find subjects quickly. I also hope the mods here are a little more like human beings- and don't take themselves, or life, too seriously.
Any case, that's me- who else is out there from TOD and why?
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So who is here now from The Oildrum and why?
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So who is here now from The Oildrum and why?
by C8 » Wed 05 Jun 2013, 18:42:08
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Re: So who is here now from The Oildrum and why?
by John_A » Wed 05 Jun 2013, 19:57:57
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')Any case, that's me- who else is out there from TOD and why?
Count me in. I became more than a little suspicious of their intent after they declared peak oil in early 2009, a year later spent way too much time explaining how they weren't toadies to BP during the Macondo prospect leak, and then when they bashed Simmons I gave up. Came back a few years later, checked around when I came back and never went back to TOD.
EnergyBulletin converted over to a more ecofascist format, ASPO became a lobbying group, EVs hit the roads in quantity and now we are about to get some nice diesels in America...well....we all live and learn, and this place has cool stuff most of the time and doesn't overly focus on oil topics much.
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Re: So who is here now from The Oildrum and why?
by dissident » Wed 05 Jun 2013, 23:31:32
My account became inaccessible one day and I did not bother to try to contact them to see why. The moderation is atrocious and the site is basically a nest for a certain set of zealots. There are and were very good posters at TOD and overall the site is designed well and has interesting articles. There is more diversity on this board and balanced moderation, which appears to lean away from censorship. There are too many boards where the moderators act like little dictators who cannot tolerate dissent.
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Re: So who is here now from The Oildrum and why?
by ralfy » Thu 06 Jun 2013, 00:00:41
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Count me in. I became more than a little suspicious of their intent after they declared peak oil in early 2009, a year later spent way too much time explaining how they weren't toadies to BP during the Macondo prospect leak, and then when they bashed Simmons I gave up. Came back a few years later, checked around when I came back and never went back to TOD.
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Count me in. I became more than a little suspicious of their intent after they declared peak oil in early 2009, a year later spent way too much time explaining how they weren't toadies to BP during the Macondo prospect leak, and then when they bashed Simmons I gave up. Came back a few years later, checked around when I came back and never went back to TOD.
According to the IEA, peak oil took place in 2005. For production per capita, it took place in 1979.
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EnergyBulletin converted over to a more ecofascist format, ASPO became a lobbying group, EVs hit the roads in quantity and now we are about to get some nice diesels in America...well....we all live and learn, and this place has cool stuff most of the time and doesn't overly focus on oil topics much.
ASPO provides useful studies from various experts, including points on the IEA report forecasting conventional production not dropping.
Oil Drum provides further analysis, such as conventional production from major players.
Resilience (Energy Bulletin) brings together various articles on how to prepare for peak oil.
Peak oil is the place for discussing the implications of PO, especially in reference to studies reported by ASPO, TOD, and mainstream media.
For EVs, diesels, and everything "nice," not to mention "cool stuff," there's mainstream media.
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Re: So who is here now from The Oildrum and why?
by Oily Stuff » Thu 06 Jun 2013, 19:38:49
I joined TOD about the time of the Macondo incident; I had been in the well control business for many years in the past, been involved in things like that many times, had friends out there on the job both with the operator and the well control company. I thought I could offer a different perspective to the relentless speculation...a "toadie" to actual well control experience, I was. People were rude beyond belief when I for instance defended or tried to explain a procedure. Like C8 I have absolutely no tolerance for people that hide behind a key board and say vicious, mean things simply because they don't agree with you. I try and write to people the same way I would talk to them. Months after the well was capped, on an entirely different topic, some particularly horrible people started in ranting about things associated with my political idealism, my spiritual beliefs and my home. I am a proud Texan. I fired back and Leann scolded me like I was a child. Relentlessly. I asked to be removed and did not participate in any thing like this for more than a year. I still read TOD because as pstar suggests, it is important. Most of the time, anyway. Its changing.
I like this format very much here and enjoy being able to occasionally express my opinion about something important to me. Like other forums I have observed it seems to me people take themselves entirely too seriously sometimes and tend to get the big head about their status on this site and their opinions about things in life that can't be changed too much no matter how right you think you are. There are professional internet people everywhere I guess. Too many yards go un-mowed these days because of the internet, I think. But, I am glad to be here!
I like this format very much here and enjoy being able to occasionally express my opinion about something important to me. Like other forums I have observed it seems to me people take themselves entirely too seriously sometimes and tend to get the big head about their status on this site and their opinions about things in life that can't be changed too much no matter how right you think you are. There are professional internet people everywhere I guess. Too many yards go un-mowed these days because of the internet, I think. But, I am glad to be here!
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Re: So who is here now from The Oildrum and why?
by John_A » Thu 06 Jun 2013, 23:37:16
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Count me in. I became more than a little suspicious of their intent after they declared peak oil in early 2009, a year later spent way too much time explaining how they weren't toadies to BP during the Macondo prospect leak, and then when they bashed Simmons I gave up. Came back a few years later, checked around when I came back and never went back to TOD.
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Count me in. I became more than a little suspicious of their intent after they declared peak oil in early 2009, a year later spent way too much time explaining how they weren't toadies to BP during the Macondo prospect leak, and then when they bashed Simmons I gave up. Came back a few years later, checked around when I came back and never went back to TOD.
According to the IEA, peak oil took place in 2005. For production per capita, it took place in 1979.
According to the IEA we still have another 8 trillion barrels to burn. And I'm with Rockman and his POD on this one, way too much fascination with a date certain, rather than the long and drawn out emergency.
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')ASPO provides useful studies from various experts, including points on the IEA report forecasting conventional production not dropping.
ASPO certainly has experts, the newest director, you think he is qualified with his background to understand complex geologic and engineering topics do you? Or perhaps better prepared to guide the organization through the byzantine world of lobbying? For..something? Can't say I've figured it out either.
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')For EVs, diesels, and everything "nice," not to mention "cool stuff," there's mainstream media.
EV's, bicycles, the joy of walking, insulating ones home, practical installation and upkeep of solar panels, firearms training and such don't fall into the category of "nice", more like a practical persons guide to survival in a resource constrained world.
