[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'd')on't want to open this can worms up again but I think, Doc, I hope anyway, you would agree with me about this: whatever the cause of the accident, and that is what it was, an accident...what BP and WWC and John Wright and lots of other really smart fellas did to bring that well under control and to kill it, top to bottom, in 5000 feet of water, was and in my mind one of the most remarkable engineering feats in the history of the oil and natural gas business.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SamInNebraska', '
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So now you managed to show Jars speaking for his organization, and Fatih, and aleklett, assuming I recognized the faces. So I don't get it, you just made John's point for him, while claiming these people aren't speaking for their organizations? Right after Fatih they showed a graph making his point...labeled IEA.

[John_A]

Reasons beside the BP sellout to move from TOD.

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Once that quality of poster moved on, what reasons are left to stay?

[TrueBeliever]

I signed up on here, just weeks ago, when I learned that the guys I liked to read had taken off. The Oil Drum is the site that made me a True Believer, hence my username on this site. It was during the Macondo disaster I wanted to find relevant information. TOD had great articles of people on site taking pictures of the temporary dome, the BOP, and discussions on how the piping works, and so on. I was able to understand what the engineers were up against - and what any well driller is up against when reaching such depths. Furthermore, I came to appreciate the sheer cost of such deep sea endeavors; a hundred million dollars to just poke a hole to see if anything's down there - again and again - for nothing - hoping for a lucky strike. Deep sea wells are billion-dollar operations, and this humbled my once naive assertion that the oil companies are raping the public (mega billion dollar quarterly profits) - the bottom line is Big OIl is not going to go out and spend billions of its cash searching for more oil if it isn't going to be profitable to begin with. I learned that if we want to drive, then we got to pay Big Oil all they want so they'll keep those of us in the driver's seat. Otherwise take a hike!

Ultimately, however, it was on TOD I came to realize what I had not thought about - the consequences of our happy motoring lifestyle and what the end of the Petroleum Age really means. I also became depressed, to some degree, that any attempt to forestall the calamity that shall happen is futile and hopeless. I learned how humans are deep into overshoot, and realized that what's happening here is not a whole lot different than what's happened over the thousands of years of human history -- the old adage will always be true, what goes up must come down -- and in this case it's the human population that cannot be sustained by any other source of energy than petroleum, period. I learned, and believe, that in the near future - within the lifetimes of my grandchildren should I be so blessed, Six billion humans are going to die off - that number unfortunately includes my descendants unless they are lucky enough to escape to an area that is unaffected by the ravages of the hungry hordes that shall surely sweep the land, burning everything including the roads upon which we drive - every tree, bush, and root (pun intended). The only solace I find is that, perhaps thousands of years from now - but certainly within millions of years - the earth shall recover since it'll be here until the sun does its final death throes and only then will this story end.

[John_A]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('John_A', 'R')easons beside the BP sellout to move from TOD.

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[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', 'I') joined onto Oildrum not much after when I joined here. I posted there from time to time....and like Oily on the Macondo incident. What I learned pretty early on is the people there who like to portray themselves as "experts" actually don't know shite from shinola about what they profess to be experts in. A case in point to my mind was all the accolades heaped on one party for his satellite analysis of activity in Ghawar and his subsequent conclusion from his snapshot tally of rig activity that they were about to go belly up.....he didn't have a clue what was going on, no idea whether he was looking at service rigs, what the planned timing of drilling activity was etc....of course as it turns out he was completely wrong as not too long after that Aramco brought on a bit north of 300 kbpd of production from Haradah III.