Re: THE Tesla Thread Pt. 3 (merged)

by **asg70** » Sat 09 May 2020, 15:06:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('REAL Green', '
')This is what might make Musk untouchable as far as financial risk. He has connections in the right places

by **vtsnowedin** » Sat 09 May 2020, 20:16:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'C')alifornia shut Tesla down and then Elon tried to open back up and California just shut them down again.

Now Elon is mad. You don't want to make Elon mad.

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You'd think California would support Elon's efforts to get his factory going again.

Personally, I think its a mistake for California not to be more supportive of Tesla---they are close to driving away Elon and his gold mine.

Cheers!

by **asg70** » Sat 09 May 2020, 20:53:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')Is their anything to stop Musk from dismantling that factory and shipping all the machinery to some other more business oriented state?

by **Outcast_Searcher** » Sun 10 May 2020, 17:51:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'C')alifornia shut Tesla down and then Elon tried to open back up and California just shut them down again.

Now Elon is mad. You don't want to make Elon mad.

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You'd think California would support Elon's efforts to get his factory going again.

Personally, I think its a mistake for California not to be more supportive of Tesla---they are close to driving away Elon and his gold mine.

Cheers!

by **vtsnowedin** » Sun 10 May 2020, 18:22:39

I expect cash flow realities will keep Tesla in California for a while but once they decide the government there is not on there side all new expansion and growth will be elsewhere. The reality of that should bring the local government around but they have shown themselves to be very dense. I wonder what the building will be worth once all the machinery has been shipped out and the solar panels on the roof moved to Texas?

by **Plantagenet** » Sun 10 May 2020, 18:46:46

Elon Musk and Tesla just sued Alameda County and California in federal court, seeking a court order that would force the government to allow them to open.

In response, D authorities had a very short response ....""F*uck Elon Musk."

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I see don't why D politicians in California had to get all potty mouthed about Elon Musk. A little flexibility and cooperation might in order here----Who do the Ds think pays for all their welfare programs if not big businesses like Tesla?

IMHO Its not unreasonable that Elon Musk wants to reopen his TESLA factory as soon as possible, especially since he's willing to take steps to encourage masks and social distancing and other reasonable responses to slo the spread of the Wuhan virus. But the Ds in California seem locked in now to shutting him down until a vaccine gets invented or something.

Cheers!

by **asg70** » Mon 11 May 2020, 09:47:53

Plant, why are you suddently supporting Tesla when not that long ago you were FUDding about EVs causing cancer? If you see EVs as such a threat to public health why wouldn't you be celebrating any and all impediments these companies encounter?

Oh, I get it, this is just driven by more of your petty R vs. D politics.

As for Tesla, I haven't looked at the numbers recently but US sales had been on a steady decline, hence the Chinese gigafactory. With China opening back up Tesla really needs to focus on that market to prop themselves up.

by **vtsnowedin** » Mon 11 May 2020, 10:23:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '
')As for Tesla, I haven't looked at the numbers recently but US sales had been on a steady decline, hence the Chinese gigafactory. With China opening back up Tesla really needs to focus on that market to prop themselves up.

by **asg70** » Mon 11 May 2020, 12:20:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')https://cleantechnica.com/2020/05/08/te ... r-q1-2020/

by **Plantagenet** » Mon 11 May 2020, 12:31:01

Michigan has one of the toughest closures in the US...but they're opening up their auto plants.

Meanwhile in California the governor is opening beaches and burger joints and bars and other non-essential businesses....but auto plants stay closed.

And there is only one auto plant in California----and that is Tesla.

So in California you can get a burger and a beer and then go surfing...but you can't go to work in an auto factory.

No wonder Elon is threatening to move his business out of California.....

SHEESH! :razz:

by **Plantagenet** » Mon 11 May 2020, 17:24:54

Elon Musk opened his TESLA factory in California in defiance of the fact that the governor has ordered it closed.

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Stangely, this has liberals and Ds in California all bent out of shape. You'd think the Ds would want factories to open so people could go to work and earn a salary building EVs and saving the planet and all that, but no..... what the Ds want now is to have everything shut down and people out of work.

Cheers!

by **asg70** » Mon 11 May 2020, 17:46:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'w')hat the Ds want now...

by **Outcast_Searcher** » Mon 11 May 2020, 18:01:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'w')hat the Ds want now...

by **vtsnowedin** » Mon 11 May 2020, 18:20:42

We have had the absurdity of Mom And pop flower shops being closed by Governors order while the Walmart across the street was open and selling flowers for Mother's day.
A couple of hundred potential customers in the small flower shop with several thousand standing in line at Walmart because they could also but food there. Which store will have spread more infection?

by **Outcast_Searcher** » Tue 12 May 2020, 14:56:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'W')e have had the absurdity of Mom And pop flower shops being closed by Governors order while the Walmart across the street was open and selling flowers for Mother's day.
A couple of hundred potential customers in the small flower shop with several thousand standing in line at Walmart because they could also but food there. Which store will have spread more infection?

by **Zarquon** » Wed 13 May 2020, 02:10:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '
')I mean, for my city, Lexington, KY, for example, why in the hell are liquor stores deemed "critical businesses"? Because drunks might get pissed off? Or all those delicious liquor taxes? Or something actually objective?

by **Outcast_Searcher** » Wed 13 May 2020, 03:48:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zarquon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '
')I mean, for my city, Lexington, KY, for example, why in the hell are liquor stores deemed "critical businesses"? Because drunks might get pissed off? Or all those delicious liquor taxes? Or something actually objective?

by **vtsnowedin** » Wed 13 May 2020, 08:05:56

It varies some from state to state but liqueur taxes are major revenue generators for most states and therein lies the true answer. Also the customers are old enough to vote and will take offense at any restriction on their favorite libation be it wine beer or spirits. New Hampshire has large state owned and operated liqueur stores in Interstate highway rest areas. When the build a new building the contractor has to have a full store open and running up the lot before any hour of operating time is lost in the old building.There is absolutely no chance those stores would be declared nonessential and closed.
Don't know how we got from Tesla to liqueur stores?
:roll:

by **vtsnowedin** » Wed 13 May 2020, 09:52:35

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by **Plantagenet** » Fri 15 May 2020, 16:19:39

Elon is shifting some TESLA production out of California because he says the D government there is "fascist"

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Elon has decided---the Cybertruck is going to be built in Texas. There's a good chance Elon will also shift his corporate headquarters from California to Texas as well.

This reminds of when AOC forced AMAZON to move their east coast headquarters out of NYC.

There is a certain kind of D who has no common sense. These Ds are responsible for blocking or driving away factories and businesses that would create thousands of good paying jobs. And here it is happening again, this time in California.

Once again the Ds are driving away companies who offer good paying jobs.....and for no good reason.

SHEEESH!

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