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Re: THE Tesla Thread Pt. 3 (merged)
Re: THE Tesla Thread Pt. 3 (merged)
by vtsnowedin » Mon 17 Feb 2020, 23:32:04
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'N')ot sure how big of an issue this will be but it would appear with current battery tech..at least with Tesla..they limit supercharging speeds after x amount of hours of supercharging....
Not being sure of the facts or chemistry I'm just guessing here but I expect it is an issue that will fade away as the charger network both public and private gets built out. Most buyers will install a charger set up at home or avail themselves of a charger where they park their car while working (a nice perk to attract top level employees)so the need for rapid charging will decline to just those making long trips. The average car will drive it's usual average 50 miles a day or less and get topped off slow charge while the owner is ether working or sleeping and seldom if ever get down to less then 50 percent charge.
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Re: THE Tesla Thread Pt. 3 (merged)
by asg70 » Tue 18 Feb 2020, 16:34:04
Charging stations are really more important for lower range EVs. Once you have 200+ miles the odds of being low on juice during normal daily driving is low. And really I don't know how much road tripping anyone really does. I think a lot of Tesla owners decide to road trip only because the charging network is there, almost as a novelty or stunt, rather than it being something they would normally do with a gas car.
And the problem with lower range EVs is they also tend to have really slow charge speeds. There's a case to be made for budget EVs that intentionally have low compliance-car ranges as long as they can take in a fast charge. Then instead of carrying along that huge battery they can lean hard on fast charging. If that were to save thousands of dollars in purchase price it would be a real boon to consumers. However, I doubt that we'll see much of a market open up for <200 mile EVs. As it is now, the compliance cars that are out there are going to be waiting at charging stations for quite some time. So you can get where you need to go all right--in exchange for time wasted.
Where I see things settling out in the next 5-10 years is the lowest end EVs will have at least 200 miles range and 100kw charge speeds. The VW MEB cars will be like this. Anything less than this will go down as "transitional" tech. (TBH, that includes my Kona which maxes out at 78kw at the peak of its charge cycle.)
And the problem with lower range EVs is they also tend to have really slow charge speeds. There's a case to be made for budget EVs that intentionally have low compliance-car ranges as long as they can take in a fast charge. Then instead of carrying along that huge battery they can lean hard on fast charging. If that were to save thousands of dollars in purchase price it would be a real boon to consumers. However, I doubt that we'll see much of a market open up for <200 mile EVs. As it is now, the compliance cars that are out there are going to be waiting at charging stations for quite some time. So you can get where you need to go all right--in exchange for time wasted.
Where I see things settling out in the next 5-10 years is the lowest end EVs will have at least 200 miles range and 100kw charge speeds. The VW MEB cars will be like this. Anything less than this will go down as "transitional" tech. (TBH, that includes my Kona which maxes out at 78kw at the peak of its charge cycle.)
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Re: THE Tesla Thread Pt. 3 (merged)
by vtsnowedin » Tue 18 Feb 2020, 20:48:02
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', ' ')There's a case to be made for budget EVs that intentionally have low compliance-car ranges as long as they can take in a fast charge. Then instead of carrying along that huge battery they can lean hard on fast charging.
I'm not buying that one. Nobody wants to spend any time mid trip waiting for the car to charge fast or not. Cars that can go the full distance will prevail and anything less will become just a footnote to the EV evolution history.
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Re: THE Tesla Thread Pt. 3 (merged)
by vtsnowedin » Wed 19 Feb 2020, 05:52:41
May I propose a resurrection of the 1950s style drive in restaurant. You will pull into your parking spot and the attendant/waitress will plug you in before taking your food order. In the forty minutes it takes them to serve your meal and pick up the tray when you are done your Tesla will have picked up 240 miles of charge. The ten dollars worth of electricity (@0.10/KWH) would get rolled into your meal and gratuity.
If we get to truly autonomous driving cars they might add potent potables to the menu.
If we get to truly autonomous driving cars they might add potent potables to the menu.
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Re: THE Tesla Thread Pt. 3 (merged)
by Newfie » Wed 19 Feb 2020, 07:46:00
That’s actually a pretty good idea.
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Re: THE Tesla Thread Pt. 3 (merged)
by vtsnowedin » Wed 19 Feb 2020, 08:00:06
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'T')hat’s actually a pretty good idea.
Why thanks.
I'm thinking beach resorts in the summer with the waitresses in shorty shorts and halter tops to bring in sexist old codgers like myself. I suppose that would not fly today but it was nice when we had it.
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Re: THE Tesla Thread Pt. 3 (merged)
by asg70 » Wed 19 Feb 2020, 11:52:37
Well, by some miracle Hooters is still in business. For how long I dunno. They got sold over the summer.
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Re: THE Tesla Thread Pt. 3 (merged)
by StarvingLion » Wed 19 Feb 2020, 13:09:00
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('glaucus', 'T')esla has been moving in the right direction lately (stock-wise).
I see the stock moving ahead due to Tesla's recent improvement in production and meeting goals (if a lot late in some cases). Opening that factory in China and the introduction of the Cyber truck all point to a profitable future at the lead of the EV industry. I don't see it going to $1500 but I don't think it will tank anytime soon.
Its already at $1000. Admit it, you and rockdoc are laughing stocks and I am right.
Ford continues to go down.
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