[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')his is an actual nationwide Fascist recruiting drive led by the GOP. Not everyone will buy in, in fact Hitler said he only needed the stupidest 10% to seize power. Once they reach the point where questioning Glenn Beck will gets your tires slashed and suddenly everyone on the cul-de-sac gives you the cold shoulder, at that point, the game has changed.

That might actually be a much more realistic "doom" scenario than many that get floated here.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '<')/div>It's part of the large strategy of exporting jobs, denying people education, taking away their unemployment benfits, then saturating them with right wing propaganda blaming minorities. This is an actual nationwide Fascist recruiting drive led by the GOP. Not everyone will buy in, in fact Hitler said he only needed the stupidest 10% to seize power. Once they reach the point where questioning Glenn Beck will gets your tires slashed and suddenly everyone on the cul-de-sac gives you the cold shoulder, at that point, the game has changed.

That might actually be a much more realistic "doom" scenario than many that get floated here.[/quote]

Interesting that they're pursuing a strategy that can easily get out of control and lead to the random violence Kunstler, Yves Smith, and others are predicting. How about another Oklahoma City bombing? How about a few Oklahoma City bombings? A dozen? I guess they really think they can control it or that the consequences are worth it.

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')his is an actual nationwide Fascist recruiting drive led by the GOP. Not everyone will buy in, in fact Hitler said he only needed the stupidest 10% to seize power. Once they reach the point where questioning Glenn Beck will gets your tires slashed and suddenly everyone on the cul-de-sac gives you the cold shoulder, at that point, the game has changed.

That might actually be a much more realistic "doom" scenario than many that get floated here.

[Cabrone]

That article explains the most effective and hard to combat version of anarchy that there is.

You don't need to man the barricades and throw Molotov cocktails - if enough feel that society is doing them down and consequently refuse to comply then society crumbles very quickly.

Take a look at Gandhi, he never fired a shot.................never needed to. Yet he managed to bring down the might of (the then) British Empire, the biggest and most powerful empire on Earth.

Take an aggrieved populace and add a splash of civil disobedience and you have a very powerful force.

[Pops]

I think its Tanada's sig line says to look to a person's self interest if you want to know his motivations.

Aside from those with a screw loose we are a long way from widespread violence, let alone revolution, simply because there is so little to be gained by the individual compared to what might be lost - even by the least fortunate.

Besides, you need a goat if you are going to have a sacrifice and today goats are fairly mobile.

On the other hand, wasn't a revolution against capitalists budding back in the early 1900's? Then I think it was mostly about working conditions and of course it won't be the same now, but at today's slim, JIT inventories and margins and stingy credit policies, I'm thinking a revolution could happen simply by enough people keeping their wallet in their pocket.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '
')Democrats being a party that actually did some things to fix the problems we have would help.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '
')Democrats being a party that actually did some things to fix the problems we have would help.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', ' ')I'm thinking a revolution could happen simply by enough people keeping their wallet in their pocket.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')I've come to the conclusion that, culturally speaking, we are currently unwilling of enacting any top-down measures that would help us in the long-term challenges of limits-to-growth.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cabrone', 'T')hat article explains the most effective and hard to combat version of anarchy that there is.

You don't need to man the barricades and throw Molotov cocktails - if enough feel that society is doing them down and consequently refuse to comply then society crumbles very quickly.

Take a look at Gandhi, he never fired a shot.................never needed to. Yet he managed to bring down the might of (the then) British Empire, the biggest and most powerful empire on Earth.

Take an aggrieved populace and add a splash of civil disobedience and you have a very powerful force.

[rangerone314]

Americans have demonstrated over and over how peacefully they protest when disgruntled:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Race_Riot
(I especially like the airplane flown dropping bombs)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Street_Riot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_Riots

http://bossip.com/67168/katrina-race-war/

When this country collapses, it will be in a way that makes Bosnia look graceful.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_Riots

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', '
')That scenario would be preferable, the fear should be that people will be radicalized to the point that violence becomes a reasonable option.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', '
')That scenario would be preferable, the fear should be that people will be radicalized to the point that violence becomes a reasonable option.

[Oneaboveall]

Opps! Double post.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', '
')That scenario would be preferable, the fear should be that people will be radicalized to the point that violence becomes a reasonable option.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')What incident will make them so angry?

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')What incident will make them so angry?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', '
')You kind proved my point with this quote.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '
')Are you so sure? Hyperinflation cancels a lot of debts, and we're a heavily indebted people.