[TheAntiDoomer]

Bump. Reminder 60 minutes about to start let's discuss here afterwards.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheAntiDoomer', 'B')ump. Reminder 60 minutes about to start let's discuss here afterwards.

[shortonsense]

Okay, I watched the show.

All I can say is, my quote is going to become FAMOUS!!!

Shorty Says:

"Oil may already be obsolete, and just doesn't know it yet."

Certainly the show did everything to reinforce that position, plus it can supply the juice for my Volt!!

[TheAntiDoomer]

Wow, was pretty convincing if you ask me. Sounds like big players only on board, and the main ingredient? Beach Sand! I can't wait to hear the doomers start talking about when we reach peak sand!

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')NBC News covered that one years ago. And yes, the guy was doing exactly this. Running his car on hydrogen gas as well. So old school, but then we didn't know back then how much natural gas we had, the guy could have used that to power electrolysis instead of solar.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheAntiDoomer', 'W')ow, was pretty convincing if you ask me. Sounds like big players only on board, and the main ingredient? Beach Sand! I can't wait to hear the doomers start talking about when we reach peak sand!

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheAntiDoomer', 'W')ow, was pretty convincing if you ask me. Sounds like big players only on board, and the main ingredient? Beach Sand! I can't wait to hear the doomers start talking about when we reach peak sand!

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')I didn't hear any in stone efficiency figures though besides "more efficient than using natural gas for generation", which is saying a fair amount, I thought gas powered turbines were pretty efficient.

[mos6507]

Sridhar's quote below should be the sig of every technotopian:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Should the utility companies be worried? Possibly. As Sridhar points out, “The companies who saw their business as selling mainframe computers are gone.” Of course, the utilities could also do as IBM did, and adapt. “The human ability to innovate out of a jam is profound,” Sridhar says with a smile. “That’s why Darwin will always be right, and Malthus will always be wrong.”

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'S')ridhar's quote below should be the sig of every technotopian:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Should the utility companies be worried? Possibly. As Sridhar points out, “The companies who saw their business as selling mainframe computers are gone.” Of course, the utilities could also do as IBM did, and adapt. “The human ability to innovate out of a jam is profound,” Sridhar says with a smile. “That’s why Darwin will always be right, and Malthus will always be wrong.”

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')Yeah...we're "in a jam"....energy costs more than it used to.

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
') But as long as BAU seems to be holding, the trucks keep coming to Wal-Mart and McDonalds keeps serving cheap value meals, all is well?

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')Yeah...we're "in a jam"....energy costs more than it used to.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
') But as long as BAU seems to be holding, the trucks keep coming to Wal-Mart and McDonalds keeps serving cheap value meals, all is well?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')I feel ya...PO+5, its all just amazing how things haven't really changed.

[JJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
') But as long as BAU seems to be holding, the trucks keep coming to Wal-Mart and McDonalds keeps serving cheap value meals, all is well?

[TheAntiDoomer]

The Future Of Energy? Bloom Energy Boxes Already Power Google, eBay, Others

http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/22/bloom-energy-boxes/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ver the past several years, there’s been no shortage of talk about alternative energy, and its potential to change the world. The problem is that most of it is just that — talk. But tonight, a report that aired on 60 Minutes showed one alternative that is not only real, it’s already being tested by companies such as Google and eBay. You simply have to watch this.

Bloom Energy are producing tiny fuel cell boxes they call “Bloom Boxes.” Two of these can apparently power a U.S. home (and only one for homes in countries that use less power). So how small are they? Look at the picture above, each device isn’t much bigger than a standard brick. Of course, they need to be surrounded by a larger unit that takes in an energy source (such as natural gas). But still, these units look to be about the size of a refrigerator and can easily fit outside of a home, providing it with clean, cheap energy.

Currently, these boxes cost some $700,000-$800,000, but eventually, founder K.R. Sridhar envisions one in every home — and he thinks he can get the cost below $3,000 for a unit to make that happen. And he’s talking a 5 to 10 year timeframe for this.

[TheAntiDoomer]

10 Things to Know About Bloom Energy

http://earth2tech.com/2010/02/21/10-thi ... om-energy/
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Eight years and close to $400 million later, ultra-stealthy fuel cell maker Bloom Energy is finally ready to officially launch and ditch its “stealth-mode” status. The company started its first ever media blitz on Sunday with a video on 60 Minutes, an article in Fortune, and soon to be followed by the unveiling media event on Wednesday.

But while the public is just starting to hear the Bloom Energy name, greentech watchers have been scrambling for every little bit of information about Bloom Energy for years. Founder K.R. Sridhar told Fortune that the company is going public now because its Fortune 500 customers want to be able to brag about it as a green move. Here’s 10 things that you should know about Bloom Energy:

[rangerone314]

The clever monkeys that CREATED the problems are somehow going to FIX the problems.

Sort of like how when corporations CAUSE problems, like cancer and other health problems due to pollution, ANOTHER corporation can profit from the resources people have to expend to treat said problem.

But hey, its like Zorg in "The Fifth Element" said, you can create a lot of jobs and economic activity by breaking things.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
') But as long as BAU seems to be holding, the trucks keep coming to Wal-Mart and McDonalds keeps serving cheap value meals, all is well?