[Newfie]

Anyone out there know a good online source of Mexican news in English?

I poked around the other day and nothing credible jumted out at me.

[UncoveringTruths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')EXICO CITY — Business groups in the Mexican border city of Ciudad Juarez said Wednesday they are calling for United Nations peacekeepers to quell the drug-related violence that has given their city one of the highest homicide rates in the world.

Groups representing maquiladora assembly plants, retailers and other businesses said they will submit a request to the Mexican government and the Inter American Human Rights Commission to ask the U.N. to send help.

"This is a proposal ... for international forces to come here to help out the domestic (security) forces," said Daniel Murguia, president of the Ciudad Juarez chapter of the National Chamber of Commerce, Services and Tourism. "There is a lot of extortions and robberies of businesses. Many businesses are closing."

The government has sent more than 5,000 soldiers to the city across the border from El Paso but killings, extortions and kidnappings continue.

Ciudad Juarez has had 1,986 homicides through mid-October this year — averaging seven a day in the city of 1.5 million people.

"We have seen the U.N. peacekeepers enter other countries that have a lot fewer problems than we have," Murguia said.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jbrovont', 'I') caught this on the related article list from your post:

Gun battle at border crossing

Violence spilling over the border. What struck me was the total disregard for US border control forces.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hardtootell-2', 'A')nd of course more drug killings

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=109475

Maybe I'm just a weak wristed pacifist but that looks like a whole lot of serious killing stuff laid out in that press pic.

[hardtootell-2]

I heard an interview by a Mexican journalist tonight. It was chilling. She was getting an award for her work from some international human rights organization. She said that it would raise her profile and hopefully she would remain alive. Journalists are apparently killed with impunity in Mexico. No investigation, no news coverage.

The BBC had a story on Juarez sinking into anarchy, killing children.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8364049.stm

"The drug problem is just a consequence of the decay of rule of law in this country," says one businessman with joint Mexican-American citizenship. He too prefers to remain anonymous.

Sticking your head above the parapet in this city is not something people do readily. Kidnapping and extortion, along with the murders, occur often.

"Nothing functions well, therefore anyone can take advantage of the system. So what we're seeing now is a [illegal] drug industry that's taking advantage of the system - of the way things work.

"And to get rid of it like the federal government is trying to do now is going to cause a lot of problems. So this violence is a consequence of all this."

Somolia- here we come

[Mesuge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')I guess the other question would be that given that the majority LEGAL immigrants now living here show favor towards continued immigration, would Specialists Alvarez and Rodriguez open fire on people crossing the Rio Grande knowing their cousins might be among them (literally)? Or more importantly would they turn their guns on fellow soldiers who DID open fire? (consider Hasan at Ft Hood's divided loyalties) The Christians have a saying, "No man can serve two masters".

Probably the same problem the Roman empire faced when Legionaire Gunther refused to fire his arrows at the Goths crossing into Roman territory (at a time when Roman military was less and less from Italy AND smaller in size-sort of like OUR transition from Divisions to Brigades)

[hardtootell-2]

Don't worry East Germans killed West Germans, North and South Koreans killed each other..., need I go on?

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hardtootell-2', 'D')on't worry East Germans killed West Germans, North and South Koreans killed each other..., need I go on?

[Ludi]

I've noticed it's often folks living far away from Mexico that are the most worried about "Mexicans."


<<<<< about 150 miles from Mexico, has "Mexican" neighbors

[hardtootell-2]

Mexican Drug cartels rustling billions in Oil!

Wow- now we are getting into the Billions! Anyone want to guess how this can be stopped? Or why it won't escalate?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02888.html

[mcgowanjm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hardtootell-2', 'M')exican Drug cartels rustling billions in Oil!

Wow- now we are getting into the Billions! Anyone want to guess how this can be stopped? Or why it won't escalate?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02888.html

[hardtootell-2]

Calderone is bringing in the Navy now! The article says that the police and large parts of the army are too corrupted now.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BH4CF20091218

I am going to short EWW. IMHO Mexico's collapse looks increasingly likely

[hardtootell-2]

There is really so little apprechiation for the needlework arts these days. Maybe they will have a renaissance now?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01 ... exico.html

[Cloud9]

Legalize drugs and this crap will come to a screeching halt. Take the money out of it and the system collapses.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')egalize drugs and this crap will come to a screeching halt. Take the money out of it and the system collapses.

[Stonemason]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'A') simple, cheap solution for a lot of problems: overcrowded prisons, drug-addicted n'er-do-wells, Mexican-instability.

Execute drug addicts in the US; by the millions; the people who refuse to reform themselves. We would thin out the herd based on chosen behavior, without the need for prisons. We would reduce criminal behavior in the US, eliminate drug gangs destabalizing Mexico by eliminating their customer base.

We are willing to put up with "collateral damage" of innocent civilians wagings wars against foreign enemies; why not actually kill guilty people who are domestic enemies straining social programs and prison systems?

I don't see a downside for people who choose to lead hard-working, clean lives. The US is overpopulated & has too many people dragging down the system.

[rangerone314]

The leading cause of problems is solutions.

[Revi]

!Ay Caramba!

[hardtootell-2]

Some of the responses to posts on this thread seem a bit incomprehensible. e.g. just legalize drugs etc.

IMHO that won't fix the problems. These are

1) too few resources
2) too many people and especially
3) a culture and tradition of violent crime and corruption
4) no respect or life, property or the rule of law

At this point, even if we were still in the age of unlimited growth, and drugs were legal, the thugs running the cartels would not suddenly give their heads a shake and stop their evil ways. They have crossed the line, so to speak. Killing and violence is normal to them. Hard work and playing by the rules IS NOT. As far as normal society is concerned, they are damaged goods. They have proven their abilities to infiltrate and corrupt like a fast moving cancer. Does anyone think that any of them are going to get a regular job or start a legit business? Look at the KGB as a precident. It spawned the Russian mafia.

just my 2 cents

[Stonemason]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hardtootell-2', 'S')ome of the responses to posts on this thread seem a bit incomprehensible. e.g. just legalize drugs etc.

IMHO that won't fix the problems. These are

1) too few resources
2) too many people and especially
3) a culture and tradition of violent crime and corruption
4) no respect or life, property or the rule of law

At this point, even if we were still in the age of unlimited growth, and drugs were legal, the thugs running the cartels would not suddenly give their heads a shake and stop their evil ways. They have crossed the line, so to speak. Killing and violence is normal to them. Hard work and playing by the rules IS NOT. As far as normal society is concerned, they are damaged goods. They have proven their abilities to infiltrate and corrupt like a fast moving cancer. Does anyone think that any of them are going to get a regular job or start a legit business? Look at the KGB as a precident. It spawned the Russian mafia.

just my 2 cents