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One in six Americans going hungry?

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Re: 50 Million Americans Lack Enough Food

Unread postby Kristen » Fri 20 Nov 2009, 04:06:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'T')his is a shocker. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/17/us/17 ... l?_r=1&hpw


I sense some sarcasm.

Isn't it strange that a few years ago there was the epidemic of obesity? Anyways 50 million is about a sixth of the population, and I probably fit in that category. I only eat when I absolutely have to, meaning the shakes are so bad, I practically cease to function. My meals include maybe a piece of bread, or a couple spoonfuls of peanut butter, just as long as the shakes go away. However my BMI is still healthy.
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Re: 50 Million Americans Lack Enough Food

Unread postby timmac » Fri 20 Nov 2009, 04:46:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'T')his is a shocker. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/17/us/17 ... l?_r=1&hpw


I sense some sarcasm.

Isn't it strange that a few years ago there was the epidemic of obesity? Anyways 50 million is about a sixth of the population, and I probably fit in that category. I only eat when I absolutely have to, meaning the shakes are so bad, I practically cease to function. My meals include maybe a piece of bread, or a couple spoonfuls of peanut butter, just as long as the shakes go away. However my BMI is still healthy.


Eating like that can also have serious problems similar to being over weight, are you lacking money or trying to stay under weight.
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Re: 50 Million Americans Lack Enough Food

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 20 Nov 2009, 05:31:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'T')his is a shocker. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/17/us/17 ... l?_r=1&hpw

A few questions come to mind. First how many respondents made out the survey with a cigarette in there fingers? Then how many "food insecure" households have a drug addict in them. And last if this was even a bit real wouldn't you see some skinny people now and then?
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Re: 50 Million Americans Lack Enough Food

Unread postby MarkJ » Fri 20 Nov 2009, 07:10:20

We see many employment/income/credit/savings challenged households with food insecurity "not hunger" issues due to not working, working very little, milking unemployment extensions, overeating, voracious appetites, poor budgeting, poor meal planning, poor food storage, food waste, laziness, converting food stamps to cash etc.

Many of these households don't shop for price, don't buy in bulk, don't use coupons and waste incredible amounts of money on expensive convenience store food, take-out, delivery, fast-food, restaurant meals, chips, candy, soda, energy drinks, snack cakes, cable television, big screen TVs, cell phones, pre-paid minutes, high speed internet, rent-to-own furniture/appliances/electronics, cigarettes, beer, liquor, lottery tickets, scratch-off tickets, taxis, tattoos, jewelry, tanning, clothes, footwear, pets, pet food...

Many of these households are out-of-shape and obese due to overeating, sedentary lifestyles, lack of exercise and consumption of high sugar/high fat foods. Their poor physical health and appearance also limits their job opportunities.

Laziness and lack of discipline are major issues. Many residents without transportation are too lazy to walk, bike or take the transit to multiple grocery stores, so they'll blow their money on expensive convenience store food, take-out or delivery. Once they're in the convenience stores, they're likely to buy beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets, scratch-off tickets, soda, snacks, milkshakes, ice cream and other impulse purchases.

Since many people are too lazy to budget, plan, prepare and store meals, they tend to buy canned, microwavable and prepared foods. They'll buy garbage like SPAM or pre-packaged sandwich meats which are more expensive than boneless chicken breast, plus they'll but these items at convenience stores where they're often 50 plus percent more than in grocery stores.

Many of the low income apartments, slumlord rentals, rooms, studio apartments etc lack refrigerators, stoves (or functional refrigerators/stoves), so the tenants have limited food prep and storage options. This leads to incredible waste of money, food stamps, WIC, food bank and unused food.
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Re: 50 Million Americans Lack Enough Food

Unread postby kevincarter » Fri 20 Nov 2009, 08:41:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MarkJ', 'W')e see many employment/income/credit/savings challenged households with food insecurity "not hunger" issues due to not working, working very little, milking unemployment extensions, overeating, voracious appetites, poor budgeting, poor meal planning, poor food storage, food waste, laziness, converting food stamps to cash etc.

Many of these households don't shop for price, don't buy in bulk, don't use coupons and waste incredible amounts of money on expensive convenience store food, take-out, delivery, fast-food, restaurant meals, chips, candy, soda, energy drinks, snack cakes, cable television, big screen TVs, cell phones, pre-paid minutes, high speed internet, rent-to-own furniture/appliances/electronics, cigarettes, beer, liquor, lottery tickets, scratch-off tickets, taxis, tattoos, jewelry, tanning, clothes, footwear, pets, pet food...

Many of these households are out-of-shape and obese due to overeating, sedentary lifestyles, lack of exercise and consumption of high sugar/high fat foods. Their poor physical health and appearance also limits their job opportunities.

Laziness and lack of discipline are major issues. Many residents without transportation are too lazy to walk, bike or take the transit to multiple grocery stores, so they'll blow their money on expensive convenience store food, take-out or delivery. Once they're in the convenience stores, they're likely to buy beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets, scratch-off tickets, soda, snacks, milkshakes, ice cream and other impulse purchases.

Since many people are too lazy to budget, plan, prepare and store meals, they tend to buy canned, microwavable and prepared foods. They'll buy garbage like SPAM or pre-packaged sandwich meats which are more expensive than boneless chicken breast, plus they'll but these items at convenience stores where they're often 50 plus percent more than in grocery stores.

Many of the low income apartments, slumlord rentals, rooms, studio apartments etc lack refrigerators, stoves (or functional refrigerators/stoves), so the tenants have limited food prep and storage options. This leads to incredible waste of money, food stamps, WIC, food bank and unused food.


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Some people just can't/don't know how eat anything that doesn't come in a box and has to be fried and they drink everything but water and eat meat at least twice a day. Even when poor they still don't get they have to change their food habits.
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Re: 50 Million Americans Lack Enough Food

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 20 Nov 2009, 12:44:12

How would you solve the laziness issue? Is it possible their laziness is caused by poor diet and lack of exercise?
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Re: 50 Million Americans Lack Enough Food

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 20 Nov 2009, 14:59:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')ow would you solve the laziness issue?


Why bother? Anyway, once they will get hungry laziness will disappear.
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Re: 50 Million Americans Lack Enough Food

Unread postby Jotapay » Fri 20 Nov 2009, 15:01:09

Queue the zombies in 3, 2, 1....
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Re: 50 Million Americans Lack Enough Food

Unread postby mos6507 » Fri 20 Nov 2009, 15:35:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'Q')ueue the zombies in 3, 2, 1....


I thought you were only worried about jack boot thugs?
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Re: One in six Americans going hungry?

Unread postby JJ » Fri 20 Nov 2009, 15:40:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', 'n')ow here's the irony; she has a masters and speaks seven languages, and here she was making eggrolls (now she cleans houses for twice what I make, about 27 dollars an hour is what it works out to).



sorry, what was she supposed to do in Texas with masters and 7 languages? Sure thing, she could fit into many sweet jobs but to get them you need good friends, not masters and ability to speak tagalog and waray-waray. I am puzzled by people who think that education has some mysterious ties with (good) employment. Your ability to find Greece on the map and your knowing of who was in charge when Christ got poked will be very hard to monetize. People get educated so they won't be ignorant fools, that's it. You want a good job, get yourself a professional training. Or make some good friends.


is waray-waray really a language? Hers are:
English
Spanish
Tagalog
Bisaya
Cebuano (arguably the same)
Arabic
Mandarin

yeah, I'm just proud of her (for having me I suppose). i dunno what she could do (but she has NEVER claimed any superiority because of intelligence Refer back to my other post earlier in which I said "get an education for the sake of an education and not to look for a pot of gold" I know plenty of people who are almost functional illiterates and have made out quite well.

oh, and our higher education system is based on people thinking * that education has some mysterious ties with (good) employment*
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Re: One in six Americans going hungry?

Unread postby Kristen » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 15:13:38

I do lack the money. I still have a lot of energy though, is that strange?
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