Liberal democrats turn on democrat Sen. Harry Reid for blocking closure of Gitmo
liberal dems spurn Harry Reid
"The idea that a proud and confident party would shrink from backing their own president on a matter of such profound national consequence because of the illogical and ridiculous fearmongering arguments being advanced by the Republicans is so far beneath my contempt that I cannot stomach it.
Harry Reid is dead to me."
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THE Guantanamo aka "Gitmo" Thread (merged)
Re: Democrats fold on closing Gitmo
by Plantagenet » Thu 21 May 2009, 20:17:24
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Re: Democrats fold on closing Gitmo
by Plantagenet » Thu 21 May 2009, 20:42:57
Congressional dem close to Obama calls for leaving Gitmo open but having Obama-style transparency there
obama style transparancy at gitmo will allow US to keep it open says dem
This is what is called a "trial balloon".......Obama and the dems are caving in on closing Gitmo.
obama style transparancy at gitmo will allow US to keep it open says dem
This is what is called a "trial balloon".......Obama and the dems are caving in on closing Gitmo.
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Re: Democrats fold on closing Gitmo
by Plantagenet » Thu 21 May 2009, 20:48:10
Obama can close Gitmo anytime he wants. He could use his political power to force the dems in congress to close it if he really wanted it closed. Obama has enough latitude in the Defense budget to shift funds to close Gitmo even without Congress. He's also got 100 billion left in the TARP money that he can spend any way he wants.
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Obama is failing again----now he's caving in on closing Gitmo
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Obama is failing again----now he's caving in on closing Gitmo
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Re: Democrats fold on closing Gitmo
by Plantagenet » Thu 21 May 2009, 23:52:42
.....The voluble Jim Webb, who in January said Mr. Obama had offered a reasonable timeline in ordering Guantanamo closed in a year. But now the Virginia Democrat opposes closing Gitmo anytime soon while observing to ABC's George Stephanopoulos on Sunday that "We spend hundreds of millions of dollars building an appropriate facility with all security precautions in Guantanamo to try these cases. There are cases against international law." That was the Bush Administration's point all along. --WSJ
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Re: Democrats fold on closing Gitmo
by eastbay » Fri 22 May 2009, 02:34:47
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'N')o man should ever be imprisoned without access to the courts."
Every country on earth imprisons POWs captured during wars without access to the courts.
The Geneva Conventions allow for POWs to be held until the cessation of hostilities.
I'm amazed that so many people don't understand this.
You're confusing "understand" with "believes it's relevant to the discussion."
Yes, and during wars they're generally traded off for this and that because it's just too stupid to keep them in custody for long during wartime. Tell me a time in recent history when war 'captured soldiers' were kept incarcerated this long. Oh yes, the North Vietnamese had a few Americans in 'jail' about as long 40 or so years ago. That's about it.
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Re: Democrats fold on closing Gitmo
by deMolay » Fri 22 May 2009, 12:54:53
Hi why not just leave the cage doors open, and let the Terrorists wander over into Cuba. This will make the Dems happy because Gitmo will be closed and the Terrorists released. And the Republicans will be happy because of the wonderful gift to Castro and Cuba. It's a win win.
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Shocking - Bush the 3rd won't close Gitmo
by Dr. Ofellati » Wed 18 Nov 2009, 10:53:19
Who would have thought that Bush the 3rd would renege on his promises? How does it feel to be Adult content deleted. by Hope?
But die hard B3rd supporters have no fear - while you thought that O would be "different," he's not; he's just happens to be the worst reneger we've had. link
But die hard B3rd supporters have no fear - while you thought that O would be "different," he's not; he's just happens to be the worst reneger we've had. link
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Re: Shocking - Bush the 3rd won't close Gitmo
by Maddog78 » Wed 18 Nov 2009, 11:02:40
Can't you just leave Brittney alone!!!?
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Re: Shocking - Bush the 3rd won't close Gitmo
by rangerone314 » Wed 18 Nov 2009, 13:05:04
But we are getting "change".
Obama "changing" his mind about keeping his promises.
Obama "changing" his mind about keeping his promises.
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
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Re: Shocking - Bush the 3rd won't close Gitmo
by ralfy » Wed 18 Nov 2009, 13:55:43
He prob. cannot because of the implications raised in the third-to-the-last paragraph of the article.
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Re: Shocking - Bush the 3rd won't close Gitmo
by Dr. Ofellati » Wed 18 Nov 2009, 15:01:09
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', 'H')e prob. cannot because of the implications raised in the third-to-the-last paragraph of the article.
You mean this one?$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')uantanamo is a sensitive subject in China, where Obama conducted the television interview shortly before wrapping up a two-day visit. The United States has refused to release some ethnic minorities, known as Uighurs, back to Chinese officials for fear that they will be tortured. Several Uighurs who had been detained at Guantanamo have been sent instead to Bermuda and Palau after being cleared as non-combatants. Dr. O
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