[lilmissus]

I know - It's hard to break through to folks. You don't necessarily want to be cast as the doomer in the office, but you also care about the friends you work with and want to break them into the idea that change is going to happen rapidly over the next 20 years.

When friends at work express frustration about the company's impossible forecast goals for 2010, let alone 2015, I listen. Then I ask if they ever think fuel prices are ever going to go down, and then have them follow a couple of logical steps about their assumptions about america's future "prosperity" with me.

I also talk a lot about what I did in the garden/kitchen over the weekend. I eat lunch in. I always send them to Starbucks/Peets/Local Coffee Shop (my preference) with my re-usable mug. Maybe I talk about building a rainwater collection system. Maybe next week it's my vision of a greywater marsh in my humble yard. Whenever I have a harvest from my first garden, I am grateful and vocal about it!

To the ones I trust, I tell them that i am depressed about selling people things that they DO NOT NEED over the worst of all platforms - THEIR TELEVISIONS! My job is to sell organic food to National Chains - also to unload some overstock schmaltz from last year. Am I in the midst of an existential crisis? Aren't we all?

Or I talk politics with open minded co-workers. Crazy talk about Iran's right to prepare for a nuclear powered future, how the Copenhagen GW meeting will fall apart unless we find a way to tax airfares and fund developing nations, the need to support organic farmers, rather than believing that we will be able to draw food from soil that has been rendered nutrient-less - just a delivery vehicle for precious water and oil-based nutrients.

I am in this thing to the hips (funny how much excess weight I've lost over the past 2 months - not that I was fat, just American). The whole situation is tragic.

I don't go into PO (other than mentioning that I am a self-proclaimed PO "wingnut - always knew I'd wind up on the lunatic fringe"). This seems to get them thinking in a more realistic direction.

I DID mention Business As Usual to one of the gals in the office, and was bummed to see that it is getting re-mastered - though I understand the need for more work, I hope it is QUICK work. That series seems a great way to get the message out and to get folks to take action.

[EnviroEngr]

Lotsa changes to the site... Wow!!!

Have been developing numerous working relationships in Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and UAE. Interesting pictures are emerging about the conditions of things between peoples and their governments. As far as I can tell, the issue of resource depletion is only 1 item (albeit, very large) in a basketful of major challenges a spectacular majority of the world's population is going to have to rise to in the next decade.

I am also working with an encyclopedic gentleman in the city where I live who is tracing back lines of power to ancient roots. Both of us agree with the evidence before us, both historically documented and watching the Live Game-Board, following international court cases and business transactions, it all appears to be rigged. What remains to be accounted for is "system uncertainty". If the Powers That Be can somehow steer this factor or control it, ... well, we are rats running around in someone's maze.

Anyway, I hope to use this thread to stay in touch. PeakOil.com has apparently gone thru a paradigm shift of its own. So, hopefully I can still contribute a little something of use to folks....

Be back soon...

[pup55]

Hello, EE, Long time!

[EnviroEngr]

I know, I know...

So long in fact, I have been completely demoted here...


On the other hand, the mantle of responsibility being lifted, there is one less bell to answer now; not that I was worth a $#!t to the site for the last 3 years anaway... hehehe.

But, when one's Department gets eliminated from a company...
Well, ... you know...
Priorities.

Am building a business partnership in EH&S consulting and keeping in touch with people all around the world on the Political and personal Psychology fronts. Among the most interesting stories are the Ahmadinejad insider IM's and phone videos I got from my Iranian friends back in June and July. I have never seen anyone die before close up like that. Life changing.

Don't know if my latest exploits fit on this site anymore, or if it makes sense to put them in a niche forum here or not. But, there is A LOT of interesting stuff coming to my attention lately on all fronts. I maintain active communications at FaceBook on these topics. PM me if you'd like a FaceBook add, assuming u have a profile there, and if I don't get clearance to do something here, I'll surely keep you up to date there.

:D

[wayne bullcock]

When were over the peak everythin goes fast, like a wave climbes upp but falls down.
Peak oil will be the end of western civilasation (at least as see it) and thank God!!!!
In my oppinion we have to hope we will go back to stonege, instead of finding a technological solution.
I'm looking foreward to you and this forum

[mos6507]

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[Madpaddy]

He should go to spelling.com first.

[eastbay]

I'm sure his spelling is perfect.... but in Swedish, which is likely his birth language.

I doubt if 90% of us here can even recognize any Swedish words.

Welcome to this amazing journey into the world of peak oil!

[Madpaddy]

My apologies,

I got up on the wrong side of bed that morning.

[katkinkate]

Welcome.

Personally though, I'd prefer not crashing back to the stone age in my lifetime, if it's all the same to you. Such a fast collapse of human society will create huge shockwaves of violence, death and destruction on a scale we have never seen. Now I know it might happen that way, but I don't hope for it, I don't hate people and what we've done that much.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Last_Historian', '@')pstarr,

I still think it's easier to define what I am not, which is a moderate. Of course I hope for, and think that if the right steps are taken, the cornucopian outcome is possible; on the other hand collapse is far more realistic due to political and social reasons. Perhaps I'm something like a... singularitarian doomer?

@essex,

I agree, but it's still the renewable source with the best long-term prospects. Short of a massive retooling of world industrial capacity to build wind turbines, though, it will not make a significant impact quickly enough.

[Nefarious]

Carlhole
A little late off the welcome wagon wouldn't you say. The original post was from last February.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nefarious', 'C')arlhole
A little late off the welcome wagon wouldn't you say. The original post was from last February.

[reactorr]

This is my first post to say howdy peakoil

Although it may not be as witty as some, its mine.

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[UtisseLoodo]

What's up everyone, I'm new to the forum and just wanted to say hey. Hopefully I posted this in the right section!

[wisconsin_cur]

Welcome. Look around, make yourself at home. If you have any questions, please ask.

[Quinny]

If you don't mind me asking; Why did you decide to join?

[sciencegirl]

HEY

[loukas]

hi,i am new in the forum and interested in participating in any discussion concerning this crucial thing,achievement,means of development [whatever] of our society

[Ferretlover]

How did you find PeakOil.com, and what is/are your thoughts on this situation?