[yesplease]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'w')tf! What would it cost if it were sold in the US, without tarriffs?

[yesplease]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DrGray', 'N')ice reminder NeoP. And I agree completely.

You know, I have trouble believing any of this battery BS when my latest and greatest cell phone won't even keep a charge for more than a few calls. I realise it's a poor anecdotal observation, but just saying.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yesplease', '
')IIRC they've gone from ~$1500/kWh and 1000 cycles to 70% capacity in the earlly 2000s to ~$400/kWh and 5000 cycles to 70% capacity. Five times the lifespan for a quarter of the price seems pretty good to me. That's what, a penny per mile, assuming we take 'em out and toss 'em off a cliff at 70% capacity, even though they still have plenty of life left in 'em?

[yesplease]

That may count the most to some, but not all. If people were really that adverse to a greater purchase price, they would seldom buy new, which is way more expensive than used, higher running costs (maintenance and fuel) be damned. I'm not saying that all people are like this, but there's certainly a subset off the population willing to pay $10k more upfront so they can pay ~5-10c/mile less.

[americandream]

Another bubble in the making. EV's made in China and financed with sub-prime loans, EU grants and with tax write offs thrown in for good measure. Wall Streets next wet dream

[kjmclark]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kjmclark', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cipi604', 'H')old your horses buddy, I don't know how many can afford this gizmo ~ £30,000/$50000

[Olle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kublikhan', '[')BYD claims the battery pack is 48 kWh, not 16 kWh.

the E6 is a full sized people carrier and carries a large 48kw/hr battery pack giving a range of 400 km (249 mile), the curb weight comes in on the heavy side at 2020 kg (4453 lb)

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yesplease', 't')here's certainly a subset off the population willing to pay $10k more upfront so they can pay ~5-10c/mile less.

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kjmclark', '[')
Since "Expert" KevO said "WE all kn ow how economics work.", but clearly he doesn't understand something, since cars are not circuit boards, I sarcastically replied something to the effect that he doesn't know how economics works. I'll have to avoid repeating someone else's words modified for sarcasm in the future, for people who don't get it.

[americandream]

Trying to convey irony in an international website seems rather pointless, dunnit guv'nor. I go down my local for a pint of irony, I come here to be informed, mate.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kjmclark', '[')
Since "Expert" KevO said "WE all kn ow how economics work.", but clearly he doesn't understand something, since cars are not circuit boards, I sarcastically replied something to the effect that he doesn't know how economics works. I'll have to avoid repeating someone else's words modified for sarcasm in the future, for people who don't get it.

[kjmclark]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', 'S')orry I forgot that you're an American and therefore and by default of nationality have no idea of the concept of irony
the phrase "WE all know how economics work" means, and I apologise for being a Brit and therefore soaked in irony, that NONE of us know how economics works, If somebody did we wouldn't be in the economic state we are currently in.
As for peak oil and climate change, we've got that rumbled. (clue - irony again)

And don't mess with an Expert sonny.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')rying to convey irony in an international website seems rather pointless, dunnit guv'nor. I go down my local for a pint of irony, I come here to be informed, mate.

[dorlomin]

Anyway other being hugely skeptical at the claims of the manufacturer; I dont see any solutions to peak resourses here. No new energy sources. Shale gas is a new energy source, that is a delay in looming peak gas, deep sea oil is a newish source of oil and a mitigation on the oil down slope.

What we have here is atn the very best an energy inefficient way of replacing oil with coal, for a while, and a reason to burn through the coal that much quicker.

[janeword]

Sorry folks, but electricity requires oil, gas, or coal to generate. We aren't getting near enough from wind, solar, or any other renewable. Just because the power points in your house are almost invisible doesn't mean there isn't fuel burning at the generator.
Jane in Kentucky

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('janeword', 'S')orry folks, but electricity requires oil, gas, or coal to generate. We aren't getting near enough from wind, solar, or any other renewable. Just because the power points in your house are almost invisible doesn't mean there isn't fuel burning at the generator.

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')rying to convey irony in an international website seems rather pointless, dunnit guv'nor. I go down my local for a pint of irony, I come here to be informed, mate.

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')rying to convey irony in an international website seems rather pointless, dunnit guv'nor. I go down my local for a pint of irony, I come here to be informed, mate.
.

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kjmclark', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', 'S')orry I forgot that you're an American and therefore and by default of nationality have no idea of the concept of irony
the phrase "WE all know how economics work" means, and I apologise for being a Brit and therefore soaked in irony, that NONE of us know how economics works, If somebody did we wouldn't be in the economic state we are currently in.
As for peak oil and climate change, we've got that rumbled. (clue - irony again)

And don't mess with an Expert sonny.

[yesplease]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'I') agree there is a subset. Not sure how big it is, considering cheap gas and a depression.

[yesplease]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', 'A')nyway other being hugely skeptical at the claims of the manufacturer; I dont see any solutions to peak resourses here. No new energy sources. Shale gas is a new energy source, that is a delay in looming peak gas, deep sea oil is a newish source of oil and a mitigation on the oil down slope.