[Serial_Worrier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', 'D')ear Shortonsense

However, I do know this: there is a problem with finite resources. Whether it comes tomorrow, next year, decade, or century we are in for trouble.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')A species which has the ability to turn things which are unusable and near worthless in their original forms, geologic waste products that are nasty, sticky, stinky sludge, into a transport fuel for the globe, does not strike me as one that ought to be underestimated. IMHO

[Hawkcreek]

Most of the people I work with are aware of the concept of Peak Oil. But I work in an oilfield that has been declining in production at a steady rate since 1986, even though everyone here has seen billions thrown at trying to maintain the rates.
Some don't agree that the conditions in this field translates to the same situation world wide, but they are usually the dumb ones. Most of the smart ones don't try to deny it.

[copious.abundance]

I've been debating this topic on other internet forums for at least 4 years, with widespread participation in most of these discussions, so I *know* a lot of people have heard of the topic for at least several years.

Here's one example from a random internet forum (Stormfront, a racist site - no I'm not one of the people participating in *this* discussion, lol): Introduction to peak oil crash. Notice it was started on May 31, 2004, more than 5 years ago.

If even your average trailer park racists were discussing it five years ago, then in all likelihood it's been a widely-known concept for some time.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'I')'ve been debating this topic on other internet forums for at least 4 years, with widespread participation in most of these discussions, so I *know* a lot of people have heard of the topic for at least several years.

Here's one example from a random internet forum (Stormfront, a racist site - no I'm not one of the people participating in *this* discussion, lol): Introduction to peak oil crash. Notice it was started on May 31, 2004, more than 5 years ago.

If even your average trailer park racists were discussing it five years ago, then in all likelihood it's been a widely-known concept for some time.

[Maddog78]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'I')'ve been debating this topic on other internet forums for at least 4 years, with widespread participation in most of these discussions, so I *know* a lot of people have heard of the topic for at least several years.

Here's one example from a random internet forum (Stormfront, a racist site - no I'm not one of the people participating in *this* discussion, lol): Introduction to peak oil crash. Notice it was started on May 31, 2004, more than 5 years ago.

If even your average trailer park racists were discussing it five years ago, then in all likelihood it's been a widely-known concept for some time.

[turner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')Well, this sounds completely reasonable, and is completely irrelevant. HK and China are NEVER going to live the life to which we ( Americans I presume? ) have become accustomed.

[mcgowanjm]

Every nation has known about PO since at least 1939.

It's no accident that EVERY offensive goal was to capture
oil. Ploesti:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')erman air defenses

Following the June 1942 HALPRO (Halverson project) raid against Ploiesti (the first American mission against a European target), Luftwaffe General Alfred Gerstenberg built one of the heaviest and best-integrated air defense networks in Europe. Defenses included several hundred anti-aircraft artillery pieces (105 mm -- 88 mm)) and small-caliber guns in haystacks and false structures (e.g., false-sided rolling stock that was actually mobile).[citation needed] A Luftwaffe air command center in Lipesk controlled three fighter groups (Bf 110 night fighters & Bf 109s) within flight range of Ploiesti[4]:157

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')The next Event will be the Biggest Event in your Life as we move into the Olduvai Gorge.

[americandream]

Isn't it curious that the Brits and Americans also happened to have picked the most backward family in KSA to run the show like a fiefdom.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', 'E')very nation has known about PO since at least 1939.

It's no accident that EVERY offensive goal was to capture
oil. Ploesti:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')erman air defenses

Following the June 1942 HALPRO (Halverson project) raid against Ploiesti (the first American mission against a European target), Luftwaffe General Alfred Gerstenberg built one of the heaviest and best-integrated air defense networks in Europe. Defenses included several hundred anti-aircraft artillery pieces (105 mm -- 88 mm)) and small-caliber guns in haystacks and false structures (e.g., false-sided rolling stock that was actually mobile).[citation needed] A Luftwaffe air command center in Lipesk controlled three fighter groups (Bf 110 night fighters & Bf 109s) within flight range of Ploiesti[4]:157

[mcgowanjm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')The next Event will be the Biggest Event in your Life as we move into the Olduvai Gorge.

[mcgowanjm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I')sn't it curious that the Brits and Americans also happened to have picked the most backward family in KSA to run the show like a fiefdom.

[americandream]

Additionally, the puppets brand of spin, namely Wahhabism, will prove to be a running sore with the Emipire. Not a fatal one, but neverthelless, one that will prove to be troublesome.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I')sn't it curious that the Brits and Americans also happened to have picked the most backward family in KSA to run the show like a fiefdom.

[hillsidedigger]

I think most people are aware that there's likely a very troubled future lurking somewhere just ahead be in from oil-decline, pollution, war or whatever but most people had rather spend their days ignoring such possible scenario's.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hillsidedigger', 'I') think most people are aware that there's likely a very troubled future lurking somewhere just ahead be in from oil-decline, pollution, war or whatever but most people had rather spend their days ignoring such possible scenario's.

[graham]

I work in the architectural profession, oddly most people seem aware of the issue. Probably because we're all technofix obsessed greens.

[WildRose]

I think lots of people have heard about the concept or read about it. Over the last few years, I've noticed quite a number of
articles in mainstream magazines, and watched news stories and documentaries on TV. I figure the readership of those magazines
probably read the articles and the documentaries must have been watched by some. Oil depletion is discussed in schools, even
at the grade five or six level. University students seem to be fairly knowledgeable.

But a lot of people don't approach the problem mathematically - percentages of decline in the major oil fields; increase in oil demand as we build
bigger homes, drive larger vehicles, use more technology, increase population; decline in new oil finds and what that means to the overall outlook.
What I hear often are statements like, "Well, did you hear they're drilling a lot deeper in the ocean now?" or "They'll find more; they always do."
So, while information is getting out there, my feeling is that one has to investigate the topic a little more to understand ramifications and so on.

[americandream]

We are constantly being assailed to get into debt, spend like theres no tomorrow, keep up with the Joneses, be the most civilised (which invariably means, devote our societies to wasteful consumption and competition).

Then occasionally, theres the odd divergence to maintain the pretense of democracy.

The overwhelming message however is one of the triumph of capitalism which in turn tends to preference us towards its overwhelming power to overcome anything, unsurprisingly.

This can be seen in China, that epitome of the bizarre confluence of the irreconciliable, where the triumphalism of capitalism now finds them playing god with the weather.

I would watch these very same blinkered individuals undergo a Damascene conversion when resource depletion becomes unavoidably obvious.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', 'I') think lots of people have heard about the concept or read about it. Over the last few years, I've noticed quite a number of
articles in mainstream magazines, and watched news stories and documentaries on TV. I figure the readership of those magazines
probably read the articles and the documentaries must have been watched by some. Oil depletion is discussed in schools, even
at the grade five or six level. University students seem to be fairly knowledgeable.

But a lot of people don't approach the problem mathematically - percentages of decline in the major oil fields; increase in oil demand as we build
bigger homes, drive larger vehicles, use more technology, increase population; decline in new oil finds and what that means to the overall outlook.
What I hear often are statements like, "Well, did you hear they're drilling a lot deeper in the ocean now?" or "They'll find more; they always do."
So, while information is getting out there, my feeling is that one has to investigate the topic a little more to understand ramifications and so on.