[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'T')he media publishes what gets ratings - look at the timeline at the top of this search:
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?um ... %22&cf=all

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'I') can't understand why it isn't discussed more, and despite my reluctance to accept conspiracy theories, it is almost like the topic is suppressed.

Having said that, the nature of the press is headlines, not in depth analysis and discussion.

Petrol is back up to 108.9 p per litre at some places round here, there wasn't a peep from the press when it passed £1. Whats that translate to in dollars / gallon?

[Laurasia]

I told several people when I first became aware of Peak Oil in 2004 - none had heard of the concept before, BUT my Mum "got it" instantly! My younger son, who is in the military, got it also - the older one not so much (techno-fix, etc). Nobody at work really got it and I got the impression I needed to shut up talking about it, which I did.

So my answer to the poll was 0%.

Regards,

L.

[kiwichick]

yes very few understand

but you could say the same about

climate change
ozone depletion
over population


OVERPOPULATION: denial ....." it's not just a river in Africa "

Mark Twain ( is that right? )

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kiwichick', 'y')es very few understand

but you could say the same about

climate change
ozone depletion
over population


OVERPOPULATION: denial ....." it's not just a river in Africa "

Mark Twain ( is that right? )

[turner]

I had a friend come and stay with me a couple of weeks ago with her two 14 year old girls (former schoolmates of my daughter). We were having a lengthy discussion about the future and politics etc when one of the girls mentioned that Peak Oil was going to have a big impact on the future. I was amazed that she knew anything about it but evidently they were being taught about Peak Oil in school. These girls go to an expensive private girls school which made it doubly surprising. It must be on the government mandated curriculum, but interestingly it had not been passed over with the usual denials. They had a real sense of the urgency and gravity of the situation. I think that may have been somewhat a product of the opinions of the Geography teachers at that particular school. Of course my daughter said 'Don't get mum started on Peak Oil', but we did have a good conversation and a couple of weeks later she came home from school with a critique of her own Geography textbook's section on Peak Oil which presented a rosier picture. My heart sang realising that she had actually listened and taken in what has been said in our household, despite being compelled to do the usual teenage denial of your parent's opinion thing!

Another thing I've noticed with my boys (11) is that they have been doing a weekly project on countries of the world in which one of the questions is about the major energy sources of each country. Interestingly, they have argued with me about the actual energy sources (usually oil and coal) and contended that it's solar, wind etc. They have learnt so much about sustainable power that they actually believe, at their young age, that this is what is happening.

Obviously there are changes afoot but probably too late. The only thing I can take from my kids education is that they will be more receptive to my plans and preparations and may actually engage in the process for their own long term benefit.

Whilst most of my close family and friends think I'm a bit doomerish I can see that I am gradually making headway. I guess having put my money into an alternative makes them take what I say a little more seriously. My husband was on board with me buying a rural property despite not having actually seen it. My 73 year old mum uses 'green shoots' and the f word in the same sentence, and despite not being totally Peak Oil knowledgeable, thinks that society's current consumerist ways are totally unsustainable - she was pretty conservative prior. My closest girlfriend says she's coming to bottle tomatoes and drink home made wine and eat homemade olives, LOL. I've told her don't hold yer breath on the wine and olives! And my closest male friend is going to build a strawbale studio on my property and get involved in all that I'm planning to do.

I actually feel I am making some headway. Maybe too late and too little but it's something.

[turner]

Oh and I forgot to mention, in the early days I talked to 4 people who actually knew anything about PO.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', 'O')h and I forgot to mention, in the early days I talked to 4 people who actually knew anything about PO.

[turner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', 'O')h and I forgot to mention, in the early days I talked to 4 people who actually knew anything about PO.

[americandream]

Theres nothing anyone can do. History and time now drive this show. In fact, I would recommend a good dose of hedonism.

edit: to prempt a quick transition. Trying to reform this cancerous beast will make the recovery all the less likely.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', 'O')h and I forgot to mention, in the early days I talked to 4 people who actually knew anything about PO.

[Revi]

There are a lot of people who know a little about it, but I would say that 1 in 100 knows what peak oil really means.

Nobody wants to hear anything about it around here.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')heres nothing anyone can do. History and time now drive this show. In fact, I would recommend a good dose of hedonism.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')heres nothing anyone can do. History and time now drive this show. In fact, I would recommend a good dose of hedonism.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')heres nothing anyone can do. History and time now drive this show. In fact, I would recommend a good dose of hedonism.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'T')here are a lot of people who know a little about it, but I would say that 1 in 100 knows what peak oil really means.

Nobody wants to hear anything about it around here.

[rangerone314]

Maybe I'm cold-blooded, but its hard to sympathize with people when you try to open their eyes to the truth and help them and get greeted with stupidity.

This is why I am digging in and working to hide my preps behind a wall of evergreens and thorn hedges.

When I'm fully prepared, hidden, and dug in, everyone who was part of the problem, didn't want to hear that there was a problem, and is now starving, will get no help.

I'm actually starting to tell people I know that my garden sucks and the plants aren't growing well, and that I'm just going to start planting flowers, so they don't think to come to my place when TSHTF.

I also intend in the future to buy about a 2 year supply of canned foods and dry beans.

[Roy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')The problem is, what does peak oil REALLY mean?

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')The problem is, what does peak oil REALLY mean?

[turner]

Dear Shortonsense

I have read so much of your stuff over the last year or so and have never responded. Why? Because I can't compete with your stats etc. But I do have an opinion that is mostly not relevant here because I'm not making quotes or including graphs and the like...

However, I do know this: there is a problem with finite resources. Whether it comes tomorrow, next year, decade, or century we are in for trouble. I look out my window over HK as I write this, knowing there are several million people just right there living in a space that the society cannot remotely feed and struggles to house. And then I think about the 83 million people living half an hour away in the factory of the world, Guangdong, and I can't get my head around how they are going to live the life to which we are accustomed. Beyond that it's even more unimaginable by our standards, another 1.2b. And then another 1bill in India also wanting to move up in the world. Just take a moment to think about the magnitude of those numbers and compare that to your life in the US - wealthy and 300m odd.
Can you really believe human ingenuity is going to solve that in a relatively short time? Go on give me same graphs and stuff..

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', 'D')ear Shortonsense

However, I do know this: there is a problem with finite resources. Whether it comes tomorrow, next year, decade, or century we are in for trouble.