[the48thronin]

Bad connection here in west nebraska.. so someone else will have to find a link. BUT I just heard on cnn that 50 students were diagnosed as sick with swine flue on the first day of class this year.

If true?

[JJ]

swine flu spreading like wildfire here...25 cases in small town north of here, guys daughter in the deli at the grocery store I work for, potato chip merchandiser at the grocery store I work at, etc. sounds like here we go. several school nurses I talked to said a. that they would not participate in a vaccine program or b. that their schools had no plans for vaccines.

[sittinguy]

a few cases in central Florida. And most families that have an affected person,, the whole family gets it

[the48thronin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('the48thronin', 'B')ad connection here in west nebraska.. so someone else will have to find a link. BUT I just heard on cnn that 50 students were diagnosed as sick with swine flue on the first day of class this year. If true?

[kjmclark]

Saturday, August 29th:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')wine flu spreads four times faster than other viruses and 40 percent of the fatalities are young adults in good health, the world's top health official warned in an interview appearing Saturday

[kjmclark]

August 31st:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Intensive care specialists who fought to save desperately sick swine flu patients this spring and summer have a warning for hospitals that haven't yet dealt with an influx of these difficult-to-treat patients.

Prepare. Now.

Experts predict ICUs are likely to be the main battlefield in the war against a pandemic virus, which so far doesn't appear to have much of a middle ground.

The vast majority of people suffer through a typical bout of flu. But of those who become sick enough to be hospitalized, a significant portion – maybe as high as 15 per cent, the World Health Organization says – end up in ICUs for weeks, hovering between life and death.

"I've never seen this," says Dr. Paul Hebert, editor of the Canadian Medical Association Journal and an intensive care physician in Ottawa who has treated several of these patients.

"As an ICU doctor, it's very, very, very rare I can't deliver enough oxygen to someone to keep him alive. They die of other things, right? They die because their organs fail."

"In this case, we can barely oxygenate them."

[EndOfGrowth]

Hope you're already for the mandatory vaccines folks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY86t2gB0-A

[Pretorian]

a little boy died in my town recently. a mild sore throat, hospita;ized 3 days late r, dead a few hours after that. no other issues, no health conditions or anything

[mattduke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')ov. John Baldacci on Tuesday declared a statewide civil emergency because of the H1N1 influenza virus, paving the way for mass immunization of Maine schoolchildren and other residents.

The emergency designation protects schools and health care providers against liability claims related to their participation in school-based vaccine clinics this fall for both the seasonal flu and the H1N1 flu.

[topcat]

And this from the Daily Bell:

Florida - the Florida surgeon general suspended distribution permit requirements, Florida statutes to allow wholesale distribution of Tamiflu and Relenza. The state has also distributed a series of blank quarantine order forms, including a voluntary home quarantine agreement, a quarantine to residence order, a quarantine to residence order (non-compliance), a quarantine to facility order, quarantine detention order, quarantine of facility order, building quarantine closure order and area quarantine closure order.

http://www.thedailybell.com/509/Swine-flu-creeping-radicalism-of-American-officialdom.html

[Cloud9]

We are starting to see cases here in central Florida.

[WildRose]

Alberta Health has purchased 106 more ventilators to be used around the province in preparation for the next wave of swine flu, anticipating that more patients will need ICU care. Staff is encouraged to stay home if they become ill, but I have to wonder if that will stick when the already stressed system is further burdened.

[Sixstrings]

Just to add to local reports, in my town a healthy 27 year old male died in hospital of swine flu.

[careinke]

2000 suspected cases at Washington State University. Fortunately no deaths.

http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Flu-WSU

[Quinny]

I went to meet a prospect yesterday who agreed to some work and said he looked forward to working with us if........ he then paused and said ....... if things don't get too bad .....

He then explained that his wife was on a regional health planning committee and that this flu season they were projecting the need for 4000 respirators in his county - they only have 700.

More scary was that his neighbour whose in the army has said there are plans for armed units (he actually said tanks) to be based at hospitals because of anticipated civil unrest when sick relatives are turned away. He also said that regional health administration were preparing to move lock stock & barrel to secure facilities, this includes all personnel and equipment, apparently duplicate IT systems are already in place.

First time I'd met him, and he seemed a very calm and pleasant individual what he was saying seemed incredible, but he seemed very credible. (BTW he'd never heard of peak oil).

[Cloud9]

A freshman died in our school this morning.

[Pretorian]

It seems this swine flu has a few wild cards under its sleeves, who would have thought of that...

[Ferretlover]

While watching CNN this week, a Dr. Richard [Br?]essman [Pr?]essman (sorry, didn't have my glasses on!)... anyway, he was being interviewed about the swine flu, and he said, "Children are very important in the transmission of disease."
Sounds like a reasonable statement....... doesn't it?

[WildRose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'W')hile watching CNN this week, a Dr. Richard [Br?]essman [Pr?]essman (sorry, didn't have my glasses on!)... anyway, he was being interviewed about the swine flu, and he said, "Children are very important in the transmission of disease."
Sounds like a reasonable statement....... doesn't it?

[WildRose]

Here's what the WHO has to say about the considerations for school closures:

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu ... index.html

Notice that they recommend closures are most effective at limiting spread of disease from
schools into the community if they are done early, when about 1% of students and staff have
become infected. I'm thinking that by the time most schools realize the flu is taking hold, they
will be far past the 1% mark.

At the bottom of the piece they briefly mention the economical/social aspects of school closures.

Funny, they say limiting crowding in schools will help to lessen spread, but how do you do that?