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Re: Quick story about fishing

Postby Pops » Wed 25 Jul 2007, 17:01:03

Oh, I like calves, many times I help pull ‘em and pound their chests to get them to breath, so they think momma wears blue jeans. I feed dry cows and heifers from about 4 months to when they freshen and they know my call and so pretty well come when I do.

Susan does most of the bottle feeding of the bull calves we raise, but after they are weaned they are mine. I scratch their heads but call them by their ear tag numbers. They think I am Bossy because I open the gates to greener pastures.

We raise feeder pigs and trade for beef from the dairy mostly – I feed the steers they butcher too.

Don’t name your food, but treat it like a living, feeling being is the way I look at things.

I should have put that broke calf down though and that makes me feel bad.

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Re: Quick story about fishing

Postby jboogy » Wed 25 Jul 2007, 17:19:57

Yeah, gotta admit the one calf that's been born here was cute the first couple months,neither me nor the wife was here when it happened so Sprinkles hasn't bonded with us at all,the wife tries like hell to make friends with it but it won't let us touch it unless it's nose is in the feed bucket,why do you have to bottle feed them?Sprinkles was sucking on mommy cow day1.
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Re: Quick story about fishing

Postby Eli » Wed 25 Jul 2007, 18:33:11

That aint the low point of a fish's life, this is the low point a fish. Link

The fish's in the above story would loved to be bashed on a rock.
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Re: Quick story about fishing

Postby Pops » Wed 25 Jul 2007, 21:43:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'Y')eah, gotta admit the one calf that's been born here was cute the first couple months,neither me nor the wife was here when it happened so Sprinkles hasn't bonded with us at all,the wife tries like hell to make friends with it but it won't let us touch it unless it's nose is in the feed bucket,why do you have to bottle feed them?.

Yea, beef animals are kinda wild in comparison; we raise dairy bull calves that are pretty docile, I feed the dry cows and heifers for the dairy and they come like pups when I call.

Momma goes to work as soon as she freshens, little heifer calves are babied because they are worth big bucks; we take in the orphan bulls because we have big hearts…

Well, that and we make a little dollar here and there...
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Re: Fishing (for food...)

Postby Iaato » Sun 27 Jul 2008, 20:21:17

I filled my freezer with reds this week. It's a great feeling. We will smoke some in a smoker I found at a garage sale. Maybe next year I'll can some. We used food saver bags; eventually I will look for a different method of freezing them. Putting up my own fish is an Alaskan rite of passage; after 10 years it is about time. I guess bagging a moose is next.

We fished two tides and got skunked; but we shared those tides with commercial fishermen. On the third tide, the fish started to hit, and my first two nets had two salmon in each one. I finally broke the net handle; I was going to stay on the beach after that and process everyone else's fish in the group. But I wasn't quite done, so I went back out and just held the net in the water. A guy next to me laughed and said, "It would be funny if you actually caught one." He barely had a chance to finish the sentence. I went on to catch three more without a handle on the net. I've done my share of fishing with a pole; this sure beats a fishing pole. There were 6 of us; we got about 70 red salmon in about 3 hours.

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Re: Fishing (for food...)

Postby xerces » Sun 27 Jul 2008, 23:18:45

The fishing rod, aside from being more fun, is one of the few legal ways of fishing in the U.S. Living in the Northeast, we catch panfish and perch in great numbers for 6 months out of year(~ 200lbs last year). Bass and trout are more rare(~25lbs last year). Bait lines can be improvised very quickly if needed. It's illegal but definitely more efficient than the rod.

One additional fishing tool that we keep is a submersible trapping cage. Most crab pots are perfect for the job. With a couple of pots, you can capture crustaceans like crabs and crayfish. The same pots will also serve to trap eels, turtles, and and water snakes.....all very good eating! :-D
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Re: Fishing (for food...)

Postby Iaato » Mon 28 Jul 2008, 00:54:22

The subsistence dipnetting for salmon in Alaska is legal for state residents for several weeks a year, as long as escapement numbers are met, Xerces. I like using a pole, but this was definitely more efficient. We just took what we needed, and the method is low impact compared to techniques like trawling and setnetting.
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Re: Fishing (for food...)

Postby patience » Mon 28 Jul 2008, 07:53:34

Seines, trot lines, jug lines, and traps. I wouldn't bother with a pole around our small lakes and steams. A small boat would help with the seines and trot lines. Take what you cn from the rivers and streams and store the excess in your own pond for future growth and use. That helped keep some of my family fed in the thirties.
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Re: Fishing (for food...)

Postby kpeavey » Mon 28 Jul 2008, 10:15:19

Tilapia can also be raised in a barrel. I have access to catfish and a barrel, thought I'd try it out.
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Re: Fishing (for food...)

Postby xerces » Tue 29 Jul 2008, 00:43:46

I thought Tilapia was a tropical fish species. Can they be raised up here in the Northeast?
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Re: Fishing (for food...)

Postby kpeavey » Tue 29 Jul 2008, 05:02:05

I've been checking out barrel raised fish over the past couple of days, focusing on catfish. I can get catfish locally, looks like the species I'd like to try.

I don't know much about tilapia, but I've read they can be grown in a captive setting. Tilapia are algae eaters. As a tropical fish, warmer water would be more suitable to their growth. Cold water will slow the growth of any fish as it slows their metabolism. I do not know if there is a minimum temperature for tilapia, but it would make sense to me that keeping the water warmer would promote growth.
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1 more thing to tick you off,Florida fishing.

Postby sittinguy » Wed 19 Aug 2009, 17:38:59

As a Florida native, if you want to fish from land you do not need a fishing license. If you are in a boat, yes.
NOW, if you are on land at the beach or river, you need a fishing license. :) here is the good part: If you can prove you are on food stamps you don't need a license.,,, I love it
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Re: 1 more thing to tick you off,Florida fishing.

Postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 19 Aug 2009, 17:44:45

The big question is can you buy a rod and reel with your food stamps?
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Re: 1 more thing to tick you off,Florida fishing.

Postby frankthetank » Wed 19 Aug 2009, 18:04:03

NO... but you can easily steal one :)

I don't get what you are saying? In Wisconsin you need a license to wipe your butt! They do have one day each year that you can fish for free.
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Re: 1 more thing to tick you off,Florida fishing.

Postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 19 Aug 2009, 20:40:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'I') don't get what you are saying?


Nothing really. Just making conversation. It's sort of an inane thread. :)
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Re: 1 more thing to tick you off,Florida fishing.

Postby Pretorian » Wed 19 Aug 2009, 21:41:17

so is it enforced in Wisconsin or what? Or you just " supposed to" as usual? Can these guys arrest you if you fish without a license?
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Re: 1 more thing to tick you off,Florida fishing.

Postby JJ » Wed 19 Aug 2009, 21:47:43

"so they put me in with the biggest baddest father raper of them all, and he said what ya in for boy" and I said "illegal fish"....
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Re: 1 more thing to tick you off,Florida fishing.

Postby frankthetank » Wed 19 Aug 2009, 22:13:11

Well..if you get caught, the Dept of Natural Resources will fine you (DNR)... They are like the "Cops" of the woods/water up here. Their tickets are VERY expensive. I forgot to register my boat one year and they slapped me with a $140 ticket (it got dropped in court)...

Fishing license is around $20 and is worth it...there are lakes all over this state that hold a lot of cheap protein and a little mercury :)... We fried panfish (sunfish) last night in hot oil (in a saltine cracker batter)...had some local sweet corn, some tomatoes out of the garden, peaches and plums from the tree... very good local meal.
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Re: 1 more thing to tick you off,Florida fishing.

Postby Pretorian » Thu 20 Aug 2009, 01:16:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'W')ell..if you get caught, the Dept of Natural Resources will fine you (DNR)... They are like the "Cops" of the woods/water up here. Their tickets are VERY expensive.

so what happens if u dont have a driving license on top of you? You tell them your name is Sam Smith?

Speaking of mercury. EPA says its everywhere now. Not one fish they tested had unnoticable amounts... Not one.
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