[TheDude]

Regarding Pakistan, NationMaster says 8 vehicles per 100 people - 112nd out of 134 nations. That's a fleet of 14,099,436 for their population of 176,242,949. If the US had a comparable percentage of cars it would be 24,324,778 total.

Clean burning NG? BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan 'faces pollution crisis'

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')raffic woes

The survey, released by the government's principal economic adviser, lists an increase in the demand for energy and an unprecedented growth in the number of vehicles in Pakistan as the key reasons behind growing levels of air pollution.


Air pollution levels in Pakistan's most populated cities are among the highest in the world, causing serious health issues in the process
Pakistan Economic Survey

The number of vehicles on the roads has increased five times in the past 20 years.

The biggest increase in the automobile sector is seen in two-stroke vehicles and diesel-powered goods lorries which are among the most polluting in the world.

Besides, more people are using cheap, inefficient and highly polluting fuels to meet their energy demands, the survey finds.

"In the cities, widespread use of low quality fuel, combined with a dramatic expansion in the number of vehicles on the roads, has led to significant air pollution problems," it says.

The government has been encouraging the use of vehicles powered by the less polluting compressed natural gas (CNG).

At present, CNG vehicles in Pakistan are estimated at just under one million, making Pakistan's CNG fleet the third largest in the world after Argentina and Brazil.

But lengthy bureaucratic procedures have impeded the growth of CNG filling stations, slowing down the expansion of the CNG fleet.

[Maddog78]

pstarr, when you refuse to acknowledge posts that answer your objections like you haven't even read the links or the posts, it becomes impossible to reply in good faith, be it ideas or ideology.
it seems like you are the one trolling and in fact you have made several statements about that admitting that you just enjoy baiting people.

I like TheDudes posting style much better.
He's asking concise questions about links provided.

Speaking of which, I agree we are starting virtually from scratch but it wasn't that long ago that gas was very cheap and it is still cheap. It was only high for what? 6 months or so.
That isn't nearly long enough to get politicians and peoples attention to make serious changes or even start to make real changes. Let's face it, very few buy into the peak oil scenario yet.
When more do, changes with regards to using n. gas as a transportation fuel will move quickly.

[Gerben]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')hat compression uses a lot of energy should be obvious to you if you have ever run a compressor. The waste heat must be bled off by cooling fins and radiators. This is precisely why your household refrigerator is such an energy hog--it relies on compression.

Do you have numbers that counter my assertion?

[Gerben]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')he site in in a foreign language. Are you saying that only 3% or 6% of the energy content of the uncompressed gas is lost to compression? I find that hard to believe.

[Gerben]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gerben', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')he site in in a foreign language.

[TonyPrep]

Wow, you're starting off well.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HumbleScribe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TonyPrep', 'I')t is the pursuit of growth that has caused us to damage the environment.

[HumbleScribe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TonyPrep', 'W')ow, you're starting off well.

[TonyPrep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HumbleScribe', 'D')efine 'deteriorated'.

[Maddog78]

Things have changed a lot in the N.G. world since 2007.

[Maddog78]

Gas bills at home in the U.K?
Check and see how much of that is taxes.

Hub prices, storage levels, shale gas plays and n. gas rigs being shut down tell the real story.

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'T')herfore, TRUE, Natural Gas can not replace depleting petroleum reserves, as natural gas reserves, though larger, are also decreasing.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'T')hings have changed a lot in the N.G. world since 2007.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'T')hings have changed a lot in the N.G. world since 2007.

[Maddog78]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')ven with the mild winter in central Kentucky, my mom's gas bill rose significantly while her usage tended to shrink - the gas company claimed it would adjust rates downward "in the future". Nice.

[Pops]

This is a good adult discussion right now, let's keep it that way, no name calling and turd throwing OK?

[Maddog78]

More LNG on the way.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he news comes just days after Shell Australia Chairman Russell Caplan reiterated that Prelude remains a "strong contender" to be the first major Shell development using new floating LNG technology.

It also comes a week after Samsung Heavy announced that it has received a US$5 billion order from Shell to build a floating LNG facility, and awarded exclusive rights to build another nine for Shell over the next 15 years.

[TheDude]

RIGZONE - Shell Gas Find Supports W Australia Floating LNG Plan

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')itigroup said July 29 that since the world's first floating LNG terminal opened in 2005, the floating LNG industry has grown and is now a major focus of LNG development.

It said expenditure on floating LNG facilities is forecast to reach US $27 billion between 2009 and 2015, quoting independent research firm Douglas Westwood.

If Shell goes ahead with the Prelude project it would add to the near-dozen LNG projects planned in Australasia to 2015.

[isgota]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')Also it must be compressed at its final destination. (That is why a bladder of gas at atmospheric pressure is useless.) Of course this expends a great deal of energy and thus the net-energy returned in such conditions is lousy and NG is not competitive for distributed auto use. (This is exasperated if the final destination is off the NG delivery grid. Then the gas must be compressed and trucked, decompressed into a local NG grid, and compressed again into the auto tank for decent mileage)

[Maddog78]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '
')Where's all that Australasian gas shipped to? Australasia?

[HumbleScribe]

Japan, Korea and possibly ultimately China or India. The Far East is the biggest LNG market in the world.