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MSG destroys your brain
Re: MSG destroys your brain
by basil_hayden » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 11:25:19
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Re: MSG destroys your brain
by smallpoxgirl » Tue 07 Jul 2009, 22:50:41
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'T')he most prominent symptoms are numbness at the back of the neck, gradually radiating to both arms and the back, general weakness and palpitations...[5]
Surely you can appreciate the ease with which such symptoms can be psychosomatic. Like I said, I don't think the stuff is entirely benign. If I get to much of it I get horrible headaches the next morning with vomiting and the whole 9 yards. None the less, it's a gross mistake to think that eating glutamate has the same effect as increasing release of glutamate at the synapses. We don't give people serotonin to treat depression, we give them prozac. We don't give them gaba to treat anxiety, we give them valium. Neural dopamine release is the pleasant sensation associated with indulging most forms of addiction. Infusing someone with intravenous dopamine causes none of the pleasant effects.
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Re: MSG destroys your brain
by dukey » Wed 08 Jul 2009, 06:11:01
its funny how the MSG page on wiki says MSG is fine and safe
but the excitoxin page says it destroys your brain
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he negative effects of glutamate were first observed in 1954 by T. Hayashi, a Japanese scientist who noted that direct application of glutamate to the CNS caused seizure activity, though this report went unnoticed for several years. The toxicity of glutamate was then observed by D. R. Lucas and J. P. Newhouse in 1957 when the feeding of monosodium glutamate to newborn mice destroyed the neurons in the inner layers of the retina.[6] Later, in 1969, John Olney discovered the phenomenon wasn't restricted to the retina but occurred throughout the brain and coined the term excitotoxicity. He also assessed that cell death was restricted to postsynaptic neurons, that glutamate agonists were as neurotoxic as their efficiency to activate glutamate receptors, and that glutamate antagonists could stop the neurotoxicity.
but the excitoxin page says it destroys your brain
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he negative effects of glutamate were first observed in 1954 by T. Hayashi, a Japanese scientist who noted that direct application of glutamate to the CNS caused seizure activity, though this report went unnoticed for several years. The toxicity of glutamate was then observed by D. R. Lucas and J. P. Newhouse in 1957 when the feeding of monosodium glutamate to newborn mice destroyed the neurons in the inner layers of the retina.[6] Later, in 1969, John Olney discovered the phenomenon wasn't restricted to the retina but occurred throughout the brain and coined the term excitotoxicity. He also assessed that cell death was restricted to postsynaptic neurons, that glutamate agonists were as neurotoxic as their efficiency to activate glutamate receptors, and that glutamate antagonists could stop the neurotoxicity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excitotoxicity
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he most well-known (to the general public) excitotoxic concerns have included monosodium glutamate (MSG) and Nutrasweet.
There is science to support both sides of the argument.
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Re: MSG destroys your brain
by outcast » Wed 08 Jul 2009, 06:29:50
According to that same article:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')lutamate does not normally cross the blood-brain barrier in most parts of the brain
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')lutamate does not normally cross the blood-brain barrier in most parts of the brain
Which explains why in the real world no one seems affected by it. Notice how in the first part it noted this was first noticed by directly adding it to the nervous system, even though that wouldn't happen in the real world.
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