THE Israel Thread pt 4 (merged)

by **Plantagenet** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 02:45:54

"Plunging squarely into one of the most sensitive issues in the Middle East, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. suggested on Sunday that the United States would not stand in the way of Israeli military action aimed at the Iranian nuclear program.
The United States, Mr. Biden said in an interview broadcast on ABC’s “This Week,” “cannot dictate to another sovereign nation what they can and cannot do.”
“Israel can determine for itself — it’s a sovereign nation — what’s in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else,” he said, in an interview taped in Baghdad at the end of a visit there."

The New York Times US gives Israel "greenlight" for attack on Iran

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by **Pretorian** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 05:02:30

So if Iran , as a sovereign nation, will decide to throw a big&nice bomb on Tel-Aviv that's cool with US too, I guess. Or it works only the other way around?

by **Munqi** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 05:08:48

Personally i dont have a problem with it.

All this hatred for Bush and his policies seems to cloud all reason when it comes to Iran. Its a country where you dont just get away with saying that Israel should be wiped off the map, people will actually cheer at you for doing it. This country can not be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

If israel decides to remove this problem then we should support them. That doesnt mean that we should accept everything they do, but in this case they have the moral high ground.

by **Fredrik** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 05:19:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'S')o if Iran , as a sovereign nation, will decide to throw a big&nice bomb on Tel-Aviv that's cool with US too, I guess. Or it works only the other way around?

by **Pretorian** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 06:43:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fredrik', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'S')o if Iran , as a sovereign nation, will decide to throw a big&nice bomb on Tel-Aviv that's cool with US too, I guess. Or it works only the other way around?

by **Pretorian** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 06:48:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'P')ersonally i dont have a problem with it.

All this hatred for Bush and his policies seems to cloud all reason when it comes to Iran. Its a country where you dont just get away with saying that Israel should be wiped off the map, people will actually cheer at you for doing it. This country can not be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

If israel decides to remove this problem then we should support them. That doesnt mean that we should accept everything they do, but in this case they have the moral high ground.

by **waegari** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 10:23:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', ' ')

Look Mungi I know you hate muslims and wouldnt mind some extra shadenfreuden from Israel tearing them in pieces and burning them alive, but what if its Jews themselves who are pushing them into your country? As well as everywhere else in Europe.

by JJ » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 11:14:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'T')rust me on this, those of us who have been sounding the horn about all of this collapse s*** are going to be blamed.

by **Munqi** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 11:21:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'L')ook Mungi I know you hate muslims and wouldnt mind some extra shadenfreuden from Israel tearing them in pieces and burning them alive, but what if its Jews themselves who are pushing them into your country? As well as everywhere else in Europe.

by **Pretorian** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 11:51:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'W')ords can not describe how retarded your post was. Im speechless. I truly am.

by **Munqi** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 12:18:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'W')hat retarded here is you blindly hating Muslims without looking deeper for the cause. I hope you won't deny that you hate muslims, won't you? You've been dancing 7-40 upon every roasted palestinian/muslim baby you could possibly find on this board,since the first day you joined. Besides, I didnt make a statement but a suggestion, so you could exercise that petty collection of neurons of yours.

by **Fredrik** » Tue 07 Jul 2009, 06:18:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'F')irst of al they didnt say they won't, second, if Iran will bomb the hell out of Israel's nuclear facilities, it should be ok with US? I mean it gotta be. Iran is a sovereign nation so far. And Israel doesnt have nuclear facilities , according to them, so the whole thing might count as some exercising in the desert more or less.

by **mattduke** » Sat 07 Nov 2009, 09:42:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he government is considering establishing work camps in the south of the country, where illegal migrant workers will receive shelter, food and medical care, Army Radio reported Wednesday. In exchange, illegal migrants would perform manual labor outside the camps, but would not earn a salary.
They would stay at the camp until their asylum claims are decided, which could take months or years.

by **eXpat** » Sat 07 Nov 2009, 19:46:34

Pic from Dachau

The irony, the irony...

by **Kristen** » Sat 07 Nov 2009, 20:23:41

Hopefully the legalizing slavery again doesn't become a trend.

by **timmac** » Sun 08 Nov 2009, 03:15:08

These are poor migrants that have no money for food, medical or housing, I see no problem here they get it all for free and just have to work it off, would it make you feel better that they just sleep under the bridges and beg for food instead..

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by **eastbay** » Sun 08 Nov 2009, 03:34:38

Odd. Everyone knows Dachau was only a jail and related work camp. Do you mean no more jails? Or no more putting inmates to work?

Anyhow, I have no problem with detainees working for their lodging and food. It seems like a sensible approach and I applaud Israel for this measure. All nations should follow this lead if they're not already doing so.

by **dorlomin** » Sun 08 Nov 2009, 11:23:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristen', 'H')opefully the legalizing slavery again doesn't become a trend.

by **Ferretlover** » Sun 08 Nov 2009, 12:13:28

And, they're willing to take ours?? Yay!!!

by **eXpat** » Sun 08 Nov 2009, 12:31:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'O')dd. Everyone knows Dachau was only a jail and related work camp. Do you mean no more jails? Or no more putting inmates to work?

Anyhow, I have no problem with detainees working for their lodging and food. It seems like a sensible approach and I applaud Israel for this measure. All nations should follow this lead if they're not already doing so.