[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o you not understand the question? Without the meteror impact, the animals you see today would not exist.

So, did God wipe out the dinosaurs with a meteor so he could redesign creation?

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o you not understand the question? Without the meteror impact, the animals you see today would not exist.

So, did God wipe out the dinosaurs with a meteor so he could redesign creation?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o you not understand the question? Without the meteror impact, the animals you see today would not exist.

So, did God wipe out the dinosaurs with a meteor so he could redesign creation?

[MonteQuest]

Intelligent design fails for the same reason it always has: The living world is filled with evidence that complex organisms not only could have evolved through evolution's trial-and-error mechanism, but must have done so, because their structure, their physiology, and even their genetic makeup are all inconsistent with the demands of intelligent design.

Those that cling to this ID notion either haven't done their homework or won't.

[Grautr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grautr', ' ')Why do you think they have stopped evolving?

[katkinkate]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grautr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grautr', ' ')Why do you think they have stopped evolving?

[vision-master]

Darwins theory of Evolution is the biggest fraud of modern civilization.

Natural:
1: based on an inherent sense of right and wrong <natural justice>
2 a: being in accordance with or determined by nature b: having or constituting a classification based on features existing in nature

Selection:
1: the act or process of selecting : the state of being selected
2: one that is selected : choice ; also : a collection of selected things

Selected? By who?

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'D')arwins theory of Evolution is the biggest fraud of modern civilization.

Natural:
1: based on an inherent sense of right and wrong <natural justice>
2 a: being in accordance with or determined by nature b: having or constituting a classification based on features existing in nature

Selection:
1: the act or process of selecting : the state of being selected
2: one that is selected : choice ; also : a collection of selected things

Selected? By who?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', ' ')Selected? By who?

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', ' ')Selected? By who?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', ' ') If it's natural and ramdom process, what difference does it make if the organism survives or not! Who cares?

[MonteQuest]

Still wating, VM:

Ok, then God had to start over as someone kicked over his sand castle, right?

And this time, he didn't rebuild. He drew new plans, right?

How did this work out with intelligent design?

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'S')till wating, VM:

Ok, then God had to start over as someone kicked over his sand castle, right?

And this time, he didn't rebuild. He drew new plans, right?

How did this work out with intelligent design?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'S')till wating, VM:

Ok, then God had to start over as someone kicked over his sand castle, right?

And this time, he didn't rebuild. He drew new plans, right?

How did this work out with intelligent design?

[lper100km]

Most religions hold that god is omnipotent and omniscient. That being the case and ignoring for the moment as to how, who or what created god, one could reasonably expect that the created universe would be perfect in all respects. How could it not be? There would be no reason for modification or change. In fact there are allusions to that thought in the Christian theology – world without end, changeless universe etc.

The fact is that the universe and this world are chaotic around the edges, though science has produced vast evidence of a highly ordered foundation. It seems to me that it is in the chaotic margins that biology and particle physics flourish. Nothing stays the same for very long there. Is it intelligent to allow chaos? How can one design chaos? Chaos is the antithesis of order. Order does not allow for variation. Design, intelligent or otherwise, requires order.

So did god make an error? Or was this a plan?

If god made an error, then it’s not quite as smart as we could wish for.

If it was a plan to allow for endless adaptation, then what’s the point, especially when it has been shown that eventually, the universe will end up as a cold, lifeless mass? A cosmic joke, though few will hear the punchline.

Of course, if there is no god, then it’s another big why? (which in itself does not prove that god has to exist, or prove anything, for that matter)

It all reduces to an insoluble set of propositions. They may be interesting to discuss as an intellectual exercise, but hardly worth getting excited about. The problem is that people do get excited about them, often with tragic consequences.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I')f the designer of the intelligent design got his sand castle kicked over by a cosmic event, why didn't he rebuild it to his original design rather than start over?

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', ' ')
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o one, even God, can see the future, nor anticipate it to the degree required..

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'G')od wiped out the dinosaurs with a meteor so he could redesign creation? Or a meteor changed the environment that then gave rise to mammals which lead to us?

[vision-master]

Graham Hancock - Shaman's - Spiritual World

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lper100km', ' ') The fact is that the universe and this world are chaotic around the edges, though science has produced vast evidence of a highly ordered foundation. It seems to me that it is in the chaotic margins that biology and particle physics flourish. Nothing stays the same for very long there. Is it intelligent to allow chaos? How can one design chaos? Chaos is the antithesis of order. Order does not allow for variation. Design, intelligent or otherwise, requires order.