[paimei01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b] * Their work week is short enough to make us drool in envy.
* They enjoy almost unbelievable egalitarianism
* The religious gasp at their high levels of sexual freedom, experimentation, and enjoyment.
* They're damn happy people, laughing freely way more than we do.
* Outside a division of labor, women have total social equality with men.
* They rarely resort to violence or war
* Strong social safety nets in most of their societies support the disabled, old, and in many cases, even the lazy.
* They usually live to be at least as old as we do
* Their health is more robust than ours, and they're frequently immune to diseases ravaging their sedentary neighbors.
* Their social lives are rich, and they have the free time to indulge themselves.
* With a few exceptions, their lifestyle lets them live in harmony with the earth, relying mostly on renewable resources, and keeping their numbers at a sustainable level.
* Their senses appear many times sharper than their own, and many seem curiously immune to extremes of temperature.
* Their strength often seems unbelievable.
* They intelligently use their time to create more productive environments that needs little care.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'I') notice many Europeans love to romanticise about Indians (Native Americans)

I grew up 3 miles from an Indian reservation in northern Canada. No romantic notions for me.
Some of them were OK. The rest, well........no point getting into that here.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

So I've got everything in place. I got the kids off to their dads for two months and have someone to take care of my critters. I am going native in July, and if Ludi gets her wish I won't be back. I've made preparations in case someting happens to me, the kids and critters will be taken care of.

I see no one else has taken up the challenge of seeing how far they can go in roughing it, I expect this will be a very enlightening experience. No meds, little food and no one who knows where I am going. Just me, my tent and sleeping bag, a cedar bow drill and a fishing rod. I can't wait.

[biofuel13]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'S')o I've got everything in place. I got the kids off to their dads for two months and have someone to take care of my critters. I am going native in July, and if Ludi gets her wish I won't be back. I've made preparations in case someting happens to me, the kids and critters will be taken care of.

I see no one else has taken up the challenge of seeing how far they can go in roughing it, I expect this will be a very enlightening experience. No meds, little food and no one who knows where I am going. Just me, my tent and sleeping bag, a cedar bow drill and a fishing rod. I can't wait.

[Maddog78]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'I') notice many Europeans love to romanticise about Indians (Native Americans)

I grew up 3 miles from an Indian reservation in northern Canada. No romantic notions for me.
Some of them were OK. The rest, well........no point getting into that here.

[paimei01]

Some links :


Daniel Quinn - Ishmael (English) - Fiction, Books, and Daniel

The Story of B, by Daniel Quinn

Daniel Quinn - My Ishmael

Zerzan - Against Civilization - Readings and Reflections (1999)

Howard Zinn - a People's History of United States - 1492-Present

The Machine in our Heads--Glenn Parton

Alone in a Crowd

Online Reader - Project Gutenberg

YouTube - HOME (English with subtitles)

The Story of Stuff with Annie Leonard

The oil we eat: Following the food chain back to Iraq—By Richard Manning (Harper's Magazine)

The Gospel of Consumption | Orion Magazine

Maddog78 I am not talking about civilized people on welfare, I talk about tribal organization. It is better than ours and it's natural for humans. It has nothing to do with the technology used. No need to live in the woods if you are in a tribe. It would be something like the mafia but without capitalism or bosses.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'G')et on with your life and make the most of it or bitch about what happened to your ancestors. What seems to be the better attitude?

[Maddog78]

There's nothing more for me to say to a group of people who not only suspect we may return to the stone age but actually hope and desire for it to happen.

[paimei01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]If you like it so much …

People who dislike what I’m saying will challenge me this way: “If you’re so crazy about the tribal life,why don’t you get a spear and go live in a cave?” The tribal life isn’t about spears and caves or about hunting and gathering. Hunting and gathering is a lifestyle, an occupation, a way of making a living. A tribe isn’t a particular occupation; it’s a social organization that facilitates making a living.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'T')here's nothing more for me to say to a group of people who not only suspect we may return to the stone age but actually hope and desire for it to happen.