[paimei01]

Urban farming takes root in Detroit
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o greed: Visiting one of the largest allotments, on a site that had been derelict since Detroit's infamous 1967 riots, locals spoke about an astonishing transformation.

"There is something that every hand in this area can do," said Rose Stallard, who is keen to enlist as many volunteers as possible to help tend the garden and its precious crops.

As she organises a band of eager helpers to pull greens from the rich top-soil, Ms Stallard says food is more expensive than ever and neighbourhood shops are scarce. "That's one cucumber you didn't have to pay 69 cents for," she adds, with a smile.

There are no fences but one local said greed had not been a problem. "People are only taking what they need, because they know it's for everybody," he said.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'F')or all those who say people are inherently evil and the only way they can live is the way they live today. Fighting each other over everything, and each man for himself. They can, just give them another story in which to play a role.

[sushilydv]

For several decades environmentalists have been warning modern society that ecosystems are getting destroyed - that consumerist lifestyle is not sustainable.

But modern society which was busy chasing progress, growth and development did not listen. It refused to believe there was any environmental crisis or problem. It said science and technology will always find a solution - if earth gets destroyed we will move on to another planet.

Impossible dreams were sold to people in the name of science and technology.

Moving to another planet would probably rank as the most impossible of all impossible things.

One space shuttle exploded during take off - another exploded on the return journey.

So far man has not been able to go beyond the moon. There is no other life sustaining ecosystem/ planet within the solar system. Outside the solar system planets and galaxies are millions of light years away - billions of light years away.

So when are we moving to a new home ?

Next year - or 5 years later ?



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Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

[outcast]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')o you have a solution/process to alleviate what you see as the problem? I disagree with some of your theories, but overall I agree industrial society is not helping humans or the planet . But merely pointing this out isn't helpful if a solution or alternative isn't presented, and a method/process on how to achieve the solution.

[mos6507]

You're not turning back the clock enough. They are talking about PRE-agriculture as a model to follow, something we all know we can't do becuase it wouldn't support our population size. So for the millionth time, we're talking about theoretical ideals that can not be realized as such without humanity first passing through a massive die off, which is why many who feel this way are seen as genocidal.

[outcast]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'Y')ou're not turning back the clock enough. They are talking about PRE-agriculture as a model to follow, something we all know we can't do becuase it wouldn't support our population size. So for the millionth time, we're talking about theoretical ideals that can not be realized as such without humanity first passing through a massive die off, which is why many who feel this way are seen as genocidal.

[Narz]

You gotta hand it to this Sushil cat, he doesn't quit. Doesn't seem like he's learned much in the last few years of his life but he is persistent.

[outcast]

Well I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but so much of this romanticizing about how great things would be if we could just roll back the clock a few thousand years flys in the face of facts. For most people during that time, life was brutal and short, so short it had little meaning.

EDIT: And actually I have learned a lot, by doing research into various issues. You guys made a point, and I found evidence proving it wrong.

[Narz]

Unfortunately, in today's world, it's less about careful research & more about just blasting your opinion from as many rooftops as possible. That's what Sushil does, spams any forum that will have him.

http://www.google.com/search?&q=sushil+mind+environment

He's got no interest in discourse, just ejaculating his opinion all over as many forums as will put up with the mess.

[outcast]

True, though he doesn't have the monopoly on that. Maybe the Unabomber wouldn't have tried to blackmail the press into publishing his garbage if he spammed the internet instead.

[sushilydv]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')o you have a solution/process to alleviate what you see as the problem? I disagree with some of your theories, but overall I agree industrial society is not helping humans or the planet . But merely pointing this out isn't helpful if a solution or alternative isn't presented, and a method/process on how to achieve the solution

[Nefarious]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat a strange concept to take only what you need !

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nefarious', 'W')hat happens when you need more than what you can take?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nefarious', 'W')hat happens when you need more than what you can take?

[sushilydv]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nefarious', ' ')What happens when you need more than what you can take?

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')ery soon it will be the turn of man to go.

[Narz]

Now I feel somewhat guilty. I don't mean to imply you should go die but your unfocused ramblings aren't serving the world.

[mos6507]

I think that whole rhetorical argument can be summed up like this.

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!

Um, okay, NOW WHAT?


Some people are perpetually stuck in Charlton Heston mode, even when they are preaching to the converted. Now come up with a plan that doesn't involve "cutting ropes" and maybe I'll listen to you.

[outcast]

I think he's just a spammer. Notice those links at the bottom of each and every post.