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[Poll]Use Petroleum at Work?

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General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Do you DIRECTLY use petroleum at your workplace?

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[Poll]Use Petroleum at Work?

Unread postby JohnDenver » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 02:26:03

DIRECTLY means: petroleum (gasoline, diesel, fuel oil etc.) is a direct input to the service or product your workplace provides.

Thanks in advance for your responses.
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Unread postby jato » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 03:29:52

I use about 10 gallons of gasoline every work day to power "my" Ford Expedition.
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Unread postby killJOY » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 07:11:36

My "real" work, college, doesn't involve more than what I use to drive the eight miles every other day to class.

My "other" job--volunteer firefighter/EMT--is scary. We'll go on a call to the local college (not the one I work at) at 2 in the morning for a smoke alarm sounding. All apparatus roll to the scene--three engines, a ladder truck, a squad truck, a tanker, an ambulance, plus a dozen volunteers in personal vehicles. We'll all sit there, idling, for half an hour, forty-five minutes, while the crews discover that--yet again--some drunken moron left his burrito in the microwave too long. Then we all drive the twelve to fifteen miles back to our respective stations--that's three gasoline powered fire trucks, a diesel powered ladder truck, a diesel powered squad truck and an ambulance, a gasoline powered tanker, plus all those personal vehicles.

Over and over this happens, from one end of the year to the other. And we're a small town.

Now multiply this by several thousand to get a rough picture of the fuel pissed away by the fire services in the US. It's not their fault. The above scenario is typical and it's the mandated response for an alarm sounding.

And this doesn't even consider a real call, an eight-hour fire, with double the apparatus....
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Unread postby Riverside » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 08:53:05

Since I don't have a "real" job, the only time I directly use gas/oil is if I need the chainsaw. My husband is a truck driver, and he uses about 600 gallons of diesel per week (5 mpg average and 3000 miles per week). This is doing local work, home every day.

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Re: [Poll]Use Petroleum at Work?

Unread postby 0mar » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 09:07:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', 'D')IRECTLY means: petroleum (gasoline, diesel, fuel oil etc.) is a direct input to the service or product your workplace provides.

Thanks in advance for your responses.


Everyone uses direct petroleum at work. All the wonderful products petrol brings (about 2 million directly) are used daily and are pretty damn near essential for work.

60% is used for transportation but a full 40% is used for industry. What industry makes, we use and have been using for the last 30 years.
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Unread postby Tyler_JC » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 11:28:58

My house is heated by oil. My car is powered by oil. My school is heated by oil. Everyone got to the school using oil. Everything in the building was transported using oil. Everything was funded using petro-dollars. Even the plastic ties on the ends of my sneaker shoe laces are made from oil. It's the life blood of the world and we are about to be sucked dry because of peak oil. You inability to understand this amazes me, JohnDenver.

Why don't you get it? EROEI does matter. The economy does require energy. The economy only grows because we either use more energy or use it more efficiently. And for God's sake, STOP TALKING ABOUT SOLAR PANELS ON THE MOON AND OTHER STUPID CRAP LIKE THAT, A TEN-YEAR-OLD KNOWS BETTER THAN TO THINK WE COULD EVER BUILD A BASE ON THE MOON WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY.

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Unread postby johnmarkos » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 11:35:32

I use petroleum directly at work. Oh, wait. No, that's coffee. Sorry.
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Unread postby JohnDenver » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 11:54:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'M')y house is heated by oil. My car is powered by oil. My school is heated by oil. Everyone got to the school using oil. Everything in the building was transported using oil. Everything was funded using petro-dollars. Even the plastic ties on the ends of my sneaker shoe laces are made from oil.


Your job is going to school, and I'm asking if petroleum is a DIRECT input to the work you do at school. As in: "How many gallons a month do you use?" You don't need petroleum to listen to a lecture, do your homework, study or read a book. Commuting doesn't count because you're not on the job yet (or anymore). If you voted yes, you better post an apology lickety-split for goofing up my poll, Tyler!!! :lol:

jato and killJOY are legit. If you can smell the fumes during working hours, you're legit.
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Unread postby JohnDenver » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 11:59:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', ' ')It's the life blood of the world and we are about to be sucked dry because of peak oil.


Oil isn't the life blood of the world. Air, food and water are the life blood of the world. Oil is a steroidal growth hormone to which the US has unwisely become addicted.
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Unread postby tmazanec1 » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 12:37:05

I voted yes, but my direct use of petroleum is the gasoline burned in an occasional errand, so it is quite minimal.
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Unread postby dmtu » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 12:37:46

Roughly 600 gallons per 12 hour shift with a fleet of 55 trucks = 66,000 gallons a day of red dye/off road diesel, and that doesn't include support equipment. Products are copper, Moly for structural steel, lead, gold, silver, platinum, iron sulfide (pyrite) for sulfuric acid, etc. All of it to goes into your consumer goods and buildings.
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Unread postby Yavicleus » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 13:06:47

I work at a University. We get all of our power from an oil burning plant that is on campus.

I am a network administrator. My job is to keep computers running. The more computers I have running, the more electricity I demand, and thus the more oil I need to keep them running.

BTW, we already experience regular blackouts and brownouts, at least once a month.
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Unread postby KiddieKorral » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 16:07:28

Yeah, but only for commuting.
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Unread postby pup55 » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 16:48:09

I'll say.

100% oil input (chemical processing)
90% output to automotive-related industries.
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