[Ludi]

If you don't understand what I post, please ask me for clarification instead of reading into what you think I might be implying. I try to be as explicit in my communication as possible, except when I am joking or being ironic. I'll try to remember to post some kind of joke icon when I'm joking or being ironic, if that will help.

I'm happy to clarify if you will just ask me to. Communication is extremely difficult for me, but I am trying to improve.

Thanks.

[Ludi]

On second thought, I will be taking a break from the board.

I have failed here.


I would rather not say anything than be misunderstood in such a way.

[Nefarious]

It is quite easy to misunderstand someone. Like your post when I misread it you used the word COULD and in being a fast reader I read the word WOULD,which changes the interpretation. Also most of us here are not professional writers and sometimes it is hard to put in print our true thoughts clearly. We know what we mean when we write it out and by our own thinking it is self explaining but on the other hand the reader coming in from a different thought process can read the same sentence in a totally different way.
One should take time to read a post a couple of times if need be and try to understand what the author is trying to say from their point of view. Like you said it always helps to ask questions from the author to understand their complete point of view and once that is learned then start your rebuttal.

But that usually doesn't happen and communication can break down quickly.

[Sixstrings]

Is somebody giving Ludi a hard time? Ludi's the nicest person on this forum, so leave her alone.

[Schmuto]

My experience in life has been that women are, with few exceptions, horrible communicators.

They typically believe that you should be able to read their minds.

[Micki]

I think it is just natural to have enough of the board after a while.
God knows I have felt it the last few weeks.
I am also close to getting a chance to relocate to my place up north. Should that happen it is bye bye to Internet forums and hello vegie garden and fishing rods for a good while.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'I')s somebody giving Ludi a hard time? Ludi's the nicest person on this forum, so leave her alone.

[Ludi]

Then why do you misinterpret what I say, mos?

Why don't you ask for clarification?

I have asked you before to please ask for clarification instead of "reading into" what I post, and you keep misinterpreting what I post.

Because it happens repeatedly after I ask you not to do it, it SEEMS to me to be intentional.

If it is not intentional, why do you do it repeatedly?

[Ludi]

I am certainly willing to believe it is not intentional if you say it is not intentional and you STOP DOING IT.

You say I "imply at lot" in my posts and I tell you I am trying to post as clearly and explicitly as possible. To me, it seems like you are "reading into" my posts to find what I might be "implying" without asking me if that is what I am implying, and when I say it is not, you say I am still implying something.

I try VERY HARD not to imply things except in humorous or ironic posts. If you are confused about which posts are humorous or ironic, I will be happy to clarify. My non-humorous posts I try to be as explicit as I can be.

So please, stop trying to find out what I might be "implying" in my posts, and ask me what I am trying to say.

Please.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'M')y experience in life has been that women are, with few exceptions, horrible communicators.

They typically believe that you should be able to read their minds.

[Blueberry]

Ok... just to clarify, Ludi, what did you mean by "safe word"?

Don't go -- all the houseplants will die! (Bill Murray, Stripes).

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Women are not "horrible communicators." If fact, our species has evolved so that females communicate MUCH more than men. According to studies on this, the average woman says 20,000 words per day, compared to 7,000 for the average man.

[Schmuto]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'M')y experience in life has been that women are, with few exceptions, horrible communicators.

They typically believe that you should be able to read their minds.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'T')hen why do you misinterpret what I say, mos?

Why don't you ask for clarification?

I have asked you before to please ask for clarification instead of "reading into" what I post, and you keep misinterpreting what I post.

Because it happens repeatedly after I ask you not to do it, it SEEMS to me to be intentional.

If it is not intentional, why do you do it repeatedly?

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'M')y experience in life has been that women are, with few exceptions, horrible communicators.

They typically believe that you should be able to read their minds.

[Caffeine]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')I'm not a woman, I just understand them pretty well. You're all over me like white on rice for supposedly taking the girls' side here, when in fact I'm just being objective.

I didn't say women communicate "better," I said they're not "horrible" at it -- they are just different. My point is a valid one, and backed up by scientific research.

Why are so many men hellbent on expecting women to behave like men, and conversely, women want to emasculate the men of the world?

Men and women are fundamentally different -- that's not a judgement, just a fact.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'M')y experience in life has been that women are, with few exceptions, horrible communicators.

They typically believe that you should be able to read their minds.

[dbruning]

Yep, please don't let other people drive you away.

As a sample of the masses of lerkers who rarely post, but read avidly, we like your posts.

Breaks are fine, but come back

[Newfie]

Ah, fools walk in .........etc.

Schmuto.......what are you trying to communicate with your avatar?

I would only add here that I find communicating accurately is very difficult. And here we are trying to do it with only words, we have none of our other senses available.

To do a stupid experiment say "I love you" three times:
1 - To communicate sexual desire describing an action as in "I want to jump your bones!"
2 - As in an ironic question, to wit, "Ain't no damn way I'd ever jump you, you piece of !@#$"
3 - And finally in a romantic way as in "I want to marry you and spend my life with you."

So, obviously, words play only a minor role in our DAILY and CASUAL communications.

That is one reason why it is so damn hard to be a good writer. It's also why we have all these stupid and insipid "smiley face" icons, to communicate with a little picture something we can't do with our thousands of words. A really, really good writer can - ya know - like Hemingway.

Ain't none of us Hemingway's.

So, in the interim, we should all chill out a bit, read each other with a fair grain of salt, and extend to one another the same TRUST we use we get behind the wheel and hurtle down the road and one another at, oh 140 MPH or thereabouts.

Good tidings to all.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'M')y experience in life has been that women are, with few exceptions, horrible communicators.

They typically believe that you should be able to read their minds.